OCR SNES Tourney Round 2: Super Mario Kart! [Archive]

Mewtation

02-23-2007, 12:43 PM

Now taking signups. Specific rules will be posted soon.

1) To join, post in this thread. If you decide to drop out before then, you may, just PM me and I can remove your name from the list.

2) Winner of this tournament will be allowed to choose a game for next month's tournament, as we are hoping this can be a continuous event. More details when it comes to that. As for other prizes, I really have nothing except bragging rights.

The game format will go as such (copied from kamoh's post on page two):
Use 2P Match Race.
Best 3/5 wins.
Agree to a track to start off the series. Loser picks every subsequent track, but do not repeat any tracks.
Do not change racers.

NOTE: 3/5 may change to 5/9.

I'm waiting to talk to kamoh about match setups.

Netplay instructions:
First, you need a netplay-enabled emulator (I suggest the latest version of ZSNES, link provided in Links below) and Hamachi (ditto on the link). ZSNES comes in its own package, so just download and extract from the ZIP. As for Hamachi, you'll need to install it. Once installed and configured, click on the Join Network button and join network "OCR Tournaments" and password "ocremix", both without the quotes. (I would appreciate that you do not join the network unless you are ACTUALLY in the tournament.) Once connected to Hamachi, you will have a special network IP. Open ZSNES, and click on NETPLAY, then on INTERNET. It will ask you to either start a server or connect to server. You can work this out amongst yourselves, because it really doesn't matter who does who, just be sure to give the other person your Hamachi IP. Once connected to each other, you'll have to both load the same ROM file (or compatible, they have to be the same type). One person can send a copy of the file to the other person, if necessary. After this, the game should start, and you can both play!

Links:

ZSNES:
There is apparently a new version of ZSNES out, v1.50. v1.50 has no netplay, so you will need to use v1.42.
1.42 (Windows):
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/zsnes/zsnesw142.zip
1.42 (Mac):
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/zsnes/zsnes142.zip

Hamachi:
http://hamachi.cc/

As for the ROM, we're not allowed to link to it, so you'll have to obtain it on your own.

Participants so far:
linkspast
kamoh
vega12
Mewtation
Drack
dPaladin
Arek the Absolute
Atmuh
SoloGamer
Antipode
KeeganTheFox
Kholdstare

linkspast

02-23-2007, 04:11 PM

Sign me in.

Will we still be using hamichi? If we do then should we create a new network?

Sir_NutS

02-23-2007, 04:17 PM

uhm it would be useful if I had some info about how this works.

Mewtation

02-23-2007, 04:30 PM

Sign me in.

Will we still be using hamichi? If we do then should we create a new network?
No, we'll be using the same Hamachi network. Network "OCR Tournaments" and password "ocremix", both without the quotes.

uhm it would be useful if I had some info about how this works.
I'll have rules up later today, hopefully.

Hemophiliac

02-23-2007, 07:19 PM

i'm in definitely, though hopefully we finish within 2 weeks.

kamoh

02-23-2007, 11:31 PM

i'm in definitely, though hopefully we finish within 2 weeks.lol...

I'm in of course.

Hemophiliac

02-23-2007, 11:37 PM

lol...

I'm in of course.

yeah it's not funny, i say it because i'm going to miami for about a week during the week of the 5th.

Antipode

02-24-2007, 04:38 AM

Do you guys post saved emu replays of various rounds? Might be fun just to make it more public for the people who may suck at this game.

atmuh

02-24-2007, 05:00 AM

are we talkin races or battles

kamoh

02-24-2007, 05:17 AM

are we talkin races or battles
I'm looking for a format to suggest to Mew, and I'd like to test run both - if you wanna play IM me.

vega12

02-24-2007, 05:24 AM

I suppose I will join the Mario Kart madness, although I doubt that I'll be able to defend my title in this game :lol:.

linkspast

02-24-2007, 06:09 AM

I suppose I will join the Mario Kart madness, although I doubt that I'll be able to defend my title in this game :lol:.
And what title would that be?

kamoh

02-24-2007, 07:45 AM

And what title would that be?
He's the current champion :P
You didn't know that?

Mewtation

02-24-2007, 12:36 PM

He's the current champion :P
You didn't know that?
That he is.

Anyway, the reason that rules haven't been posted yet is because I've yet to work out the kinks in the plan. I'll have general rules up posthaste.

Edit: General rules are up. IM or PM me if you have suggestions for this month's rules. Hemo, I haven't added you to the list yet because you weren't sure.

Drack

02-24-2007, 03:09 PM

Drack slams his hands down on the desk and points at you!

Objection!

*Presents evidence*

Now taking signups. Specific rules will be posted soon.

1) To join, post in this thread. You have until midnight EST on Tuesday, January 16th, 2007. If you decide to drop out before then, you may, just PM me and I can remove your name from the list.

If the deadline has past, are you still taking signups or not?!

Mewtation

02-24-2007, 04:36 PM

*Drack presenting evidence that Mew's a dumbass*
Fixed. I copied it straight from the other thread. Fuck, it was early, I was in a hurry, and I'm sick. Thanks, Drack!

Oh, and happy 666, Drack.

Drack

02-24-2007, 05:48 PM

In that case, count me in.

(The evil has now been cleansed, 667th post)

EDIT: Your Hamachi Network is full - Free networks can only have 16 people. My suggestion? Boot people who aren't in this round.

Mewtation

02-24-2007, 06:14 PM

All people who have indicated a wish to be added have been added to the list. I'm discussing potential plans with kamoh right now, and hopefully a plan should be worked out soon. Also, I kicked the majority of people out of the Hamachi group. I only left those who are on this month's participant list.

linkspast

02-24-2007, 09:36 PM

And what title would that be?

He's the current champion :P
You didn't know that?

Duh I know that... For some reason I was thinking of something else

dPaladin

02-24-2007, 10:30 PM

I'll do it even though it's suicide without a gamepad.

EDIT: Nevermind, I have one! =D

Arek the Absolute

02-26-2007, 06:30 AM

Playing this on a keyboard is hell. Have fun boys.

kamoh

02-26-2007, 07:51 AM

Playing this on a keyboard is hell. Have fun boys.

I dare you to do it.

Arek the Absolute

02-26-2007, 07:54 AM

Beh, fine.
I am in.

kamoh

02-26-2007, 08:09 AM

Ahhh recruitment.

kamoh

02-27-2007, 09:01 PM

I think that Keegan will be joining us, so we've actually got Arek, Antipode, and Keegan added to that list.

Arek the Absolute

02-27-2007, 09:04 PM

stupid keyboard
if i win a round, it will be a miracle

kamoh

02-27-2007, 09:39 PM

stupid keyboard
if i win a round, it will be a miracle

Speaking of which, I know mew hasn't updated, but the match format is going to be this:

Use 2P Match Race.
Best 3/5 wins.
Agree to a track to start off the series. Loser picks every subsequent track, but do not repeat any tracks.
Do not change racers.

NOTE: 3/5 may change to 5/9.

Drack

02-28-2007, 06:29 PM

When are the matches going to start?

Also, anyone know if you can record .zmv during netplay?

kamoh

02-28-2007, 07:58 PM

When are the matches going to start?

Also, anyone know if you can record .zmv during netplay?

I'm sure that you can record the matches, but I've no clue how.

Matches should start tomorrow, but it depends on what Mew wants.

kamoh

03-01-2007, 06:03 AM

Atmuh's in too...my count is at 9 players.

SoloGamer

03-01-2007, 06:24 AM

If it's not too late, I'd like to join in.

Antipode

03-01-2007, 06:38 AM

I think I'll be in if I can remember. I suck, but why not?

KeeganTheFox

03-02-2007, 02:32 AM

Kamoh knowz, but I'm officially posting to make it, well, official that I'm totally in.

Mewtation

03-02-2007, 03:11 AM

Updated first post. Also, extended deadline! We need more people!

Kholdstare

03-02-2007, 03:14 AM

Sure I'll join in. It might be fun.

dPaladin

03-02-2007, 03:34 AM

Are we allowed to pick special cup tracks like Rainbow Road and that one pain in the ass DK one?

Drack

03-02-2007, 04:18 PM

Are we allowed to pick special cup tracks like Rainbow Road and that one pain in the ass DK one?

There are no DK levels in Super Mario Kart - you're probably thinking of Mario Kart 64

For reference, the Special Cup tracks in Super Mario Kart are:
Donut Plains 3
Koopa Beach 2
Ghost Valley 3
Vanilla Lake 2
Rainbow Road

kamoh

03-02-2007, 09:06 PM

dPaladin

03-03-2007, 01:50 AM

There are no DK levels in Super Mario Kart - you're probably thinking of Mario Kart 64

For reference, the Special Cup tracks in Super Mario Kart are:
Donut Plains 3
Koopa Beach 2
Ghost Valley 3
Vanilla Lake 2
Rainbow Road
My fault; I meant Donut Plains 3.

Two Questions:

1) Do you WANT to do Special tracks? I'd rather not because they require you to unlock them.
2) Best 3-out-of-5, 4-out-of-7, or 5-out-of-9?
They're not hard to unlock, but if you don't want to use them, that's fine. I'm just pretty sure of my skills in Rainbow Road =P

2) 3 of 5 is plenty imo.

kamoh

03-04-2007, 04:13 PM

My fault; I meant Donut Plains 3.

They're not hard to unlock, but if you don't want to use them, that's fine. I'm just pretty sure of my skills in Rainbow Road =P

2) 3 of 5 is plenty imo.

Yeah 3 out of 5 is good - we'd probably just get a lot of piling on if it was any more.
Tiebreaks will probably be a simple system, it's just choosing where to place everything.

I figured out a system that replicates the tiebreak from the first tournament, but in a much simpler package - we'll call them points ("race points" this time around), and they'll be either the third or fourth tiebreaker. You earn points with the following match scores:

3-0 win = 5 points
3-1 win = 4 points
3-2 win = 3 points
2-3 loss = 2 points
1-3 loss = 1 point
0-3 loss = 0 points

Again, WINS and LOSSES are more important than these points.

1) Most Wins.
2) Most Games Played. (losses)
3) Head to head results.
4) Race Points.

kamoh

03-07-2007, 08:48 AM

http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9505/ocrcluc6.png

Kholdstare

03-07-2007, 11:08 PM

my sn is not the9thgunslinger...

its DGraceotTriforce.

Arek the Absolute

03-08-2007, 05:58 AM

My aim sn is available to the public for a reason. Even though I don't frequent the boards anymore, I am in this. Let's go people.

linkspast

03-08-2007, 06:10 AM

who do we tell about our wins?

SoloGamer

03-08-2007, 07:40 AM

who do we tell about our wins?
Mewtation, I believe

Or post it in this thread

linkspast

03-08-2007, 02:25 PM

who do we tell about our wins?

Mewtation, I believe

Or post it in this thread

Yeah thats what I figured. I was just wondering if it changed with the format.

kamoh

03-08-2007, 05:39 PM

Both players should post the results, instead of just one.
And post it in the thread, please - I'm the one with access to the standings sheet and can update it if I have results.

Yeah thats what I figured. I was just wondering if it changed with the format.

Mewtation

03-08-2007, 06:26 PM

Yeah, post it in the thread this time so I can keep track of standings as well.

SoloGamer

03-08-2007, 09:44 PM

also, http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/8955/321564564156by8.gif will be my new avatar as soon as LT adds the new avatars to the site, so if you can use that for my image that'd be grand

Either that or Terry Bogard, whatever

Mike231

03-09-2007, 09:10 PM

A new challenger has appeared. ;-)

SoloGamer

03-09-2007, 09:14 PM

A new challenger has appeared. ;-)

welcome aboard

also, mike231 3:1 sologamer

edit: kamoh 3:2 sologamer
close match, but a lightning bolt helped seal the deal in the last race

kamoh

03-09-2007, 11:33 PM

welcome aboard

also, mike231 3:1 sologamer

edit: kamoh 3:2 sologamer
close match, but a lightning bolt was the only reason kamoh won in race 5
fixed. ;) mike231 scares me.

kamoh

03-09-2007, 11:47 PM

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1743/imageco8.png

goldenkrnboi

03-10-2007, 12:04 AM

hey, i want to join in on this too. but right now, my zsnes is acting really really funky. as in, the entire emulator doesn't work right now, no matter how many times i redownload it. so until i find out how to fix this, can you save me a spot? also, can someone tell me another emulator that supports netplay?

dPaladin

03-10-2007, 12:10 AM

Beat SoloGamer 3-1. I felt like a dick hitting him with a star in the last lap of a race though.

EDIT: What's going on exactly with your emulator, goldenkrboi? Maybe someone here can help you out.

SoloGamer

03-10-2007, 12:17 AM

Beat SoloGamer 3-1. I felt like a dick hitting him with a star in the last lap of a race though.

Today just isn't my day for yellow power ups

also, can someone tell me another emulator that supports netplay?

snes9x (http://www.snes9x.com/) (up to version 1.42) supports netplay

goldenkrnboi

03-10-2007, 12:26 AM

EDIT: What's going on exactly with your emulator, goldenkrboi? Maybe someone here can help you out.

Well, (this is ZSNES 1.42 btw.) whenever I open the ZSNES now, it never goes into the blue screen as it's supposed to. it just stays black, i can't do anything to it or about it, so eventually, all the time, i have to ctrl+alt+Del and end it that way :-x.

snes9x (http://www.snes9x.com/) (up to version 1.42) supports netplay
thanks a lot! i had v1.43, which is what i play with atm. too bad that doesn't support netplay. :-(. i'll go download that ver. right now

dPaladin

03-10-2007, 01:07 AM

kamoh

03-10-2007, 01:13 AM

Got Kamoh 3-0. We kept playing because he's vindictive and we ended up getting 7-2, but a couple of my wins were pretty close. Whenever he won it was by like half a lap. EDIT: Three feathers? Come on.

My sound wasn't (and still isn't) working when I played dPaladin...but the real shit part is that I BOOSTED OFF THE LINE IN EACH RACE AND STILL LOST THEM ALL

goldenkrnboi

03-10-2007, 01:20 AM

daaang. i just played it again after a long time. either i'm really really really rusty, or i just plain suck. either way, i want to join the tourney. i'll prolly get pwned though.

dPaladin

03-10-2007, 01:32 AM

daaang. i just played it again after a long time. either i'm really really really rusty, or i just plain suck. either way, i want to join the tourney. i'll prolly get pwned though.
It's cool, none of us have played in forever either I'm sure.

kamoh

03-10-2007, 01:47 AM

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/6096/imagelb8.png

dPaladin

03-10-2007, 02:15 AM

Beat SoloGamer 3-1. I felt like a dick hitting him with a star in the last lap of a race though.

'Cuz Kamoh missed it with all the posting tonight.

Also, I just beat Keegan 3-1. I got lucky dodging some red shells, otherwise it would have been pretty nasty.

EDIT: I won 3-1 against our current champ Vega. He deserves MAD props for being the only person I've seen so far to use someone other than Toad/Koopa.

goldenkrnboi

03-10-2007, 02:20 AM

I'd like this to be my avatar please:
http://www.myfconline.com/character_avatars/4325_7927.jpg

also, what's the name under the username for?

EDIT: oh.. i knew that. my aim sn is also goldenkrnboi

KeeganTheFox

03-10-2007, 05:21 AM

I'd like this to be my avatar please:
http://www.myfconline.com/character_avatars/4325_7927.jpg

also, what's the name under the username for?

EDIT: oh.. i knew that. my aim sn is also goldenkrnboi
lol sinx, nice

kamoh

03-10-2007, 08:53 AM

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9170/imagesx5.png

goldenkrnboi

03-11-2007, 05:03 PM

omgosh! i actually won! 3-0'd linkspast

i feel bad though, cause i feel like he got cheated out of the games. apparently there was lag, and you could tell that he wasn't doing his best. =/

kamoh

03-11-2007, 05:31 PM

Everyone, it's easiest if you make sure that you post results in this thread. Even when I'm online I'm not always online, and mew isn't the one that updates the results.

I beat mike231 in a very very deceiving 3-0 result - I was always down going into lap 5, and most notably on Mario Circuit 1 where I needed a mushroom to make up the difference after the LAST TURN - I stole that race from him any way you look at it, as well as the other two.

goldenkrnboi

03-11-2007, 07:29 PM

ok, this is ridiculous. snes9x needs to put a way better netplay in 1.5 for win when they release it.

I beat sologamer 3-0. but once again, lag. i got to experience firsthand exactly how bad the lag was. and it was HORRIBLE. so i decided to do no more matches until either the tourney's over or my zsnes starts working. also, for solo and link, if my zsnes works, i'm willing to do a rematch to make it a lot more fair.

EDIT: WHAT THE FRUITCAKES! AFTER ALL THIS TROUBLE WITH LAG AND JUNK, ZSNES FINALLY WORKS? that's messed up. i swear, that's freakin messed up. kamoh, please don't include the results that i posted already. Link and Solo, i'm willing to do rematches like i said. sorry about it. i swear, it didn't work before now. although i can't do it at the moment, cause my sister needs to use the computer now.

kamoh

03-11-2007, 07:41 PM

Broken

03-11-2007, 08:10 PM

kamoh

03-11-2007, 08:19 PM

Lol @ lag.

It is the metaphysical manifestation of God's indignation at us mortals who dare to have fun playing old games online.

Or maybe it's just imperfect information transfer.

I like the first explanation better.

It's a vast right wing conspiracy to force consumers to buy more MMORPGs in order to line their wallets with more and more money. They prevent us from having fun, we buy their shit, the vicious cycle continues until we die, they get sued, or Chapter 11.

goldenkrnboi

03-12-2007, 03:00 AM

ok.
goldenkrnboi 3-0 linkspast

zsnes netplay is a whole lot better than snes9x. true, there was a bit lag, but it was a lot better, so i felt that this one was deserved. Round 1 was the best one. he took a huge lead with a star.but i stole it from him at the very end. thank you red shells. :D

vega12

03-12-2007, 03:13 AM

goldenkrnboi beat me 3-1 just now.

goldenkrnboi

03-12-2007, 03:14 AM

goldenkrnboi 3-1 vega12

eh, i screwed up on donut plains 1 cause i mistimed the shortcut and i got owned by both spikey things. i hate donut plains. doesn't mean i'm extremely bad at it. i just hate it. (: lmao, i tried to do another red shell FTW, but it got blocked. XD

Kholdstare

03-13-2007, 01:22 AM

I'll try to play later this week.
See you there.

Drack

03-13-2007, 03:51 AM

Lag

Use TCP instead of UDP, andset the latency down to 1, if you both have a solid connection.

kamoh

03-13-2007, 08:16 PM

Corn and I aborted our connection - the whole thing was laggy at odd moments, and only one connection was suitable for any period of time. We'll try again soon.

goldenkrnboi

03-14-2007, 03:48 AM

Corn and I aborted our connection - the whole thing was laggy at odd moments, and only one connection was suitable for any period of time. We'll try again soon.

by corn, do you mean me?

kamoh

03-14-2007, 04:03 AM

http://xinsheng.net/xs/images/2003-11-9-cornfield-big.jpgby corn, do you mean me?

http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/2714/imagebo4.png

vega12

03-14-2007, 10:37 PM

linkspast 3-2 over vega12

Good game!

linkspast

03-14-2007, 10:38 PM

Just beat Veag12 3-2... Came down to the last match. They were all good matches.

vega12

03-15-2007, 12:12 AM

Just won my first match.

vega12 3-0 Kholdstare

goldenkrnboi

03-15-2007, 12:30 AM

goldenkrnboi 3-0 Kholdstare

GG

atmuh

03-15-2007, 01:32 AM

I beat Kholdstare 3-1

dPaladin

03-15-2007, 02:01 AM

I beat Kholdstare 3-0, but he's doing an incredible job considering he's using a keyboard.

EDIT: 3-1 victory on Atmuh

Antipode

03-15-2007, 02:58 AM

Victory versus Kholdstare, 3-1. It was fun but it reminds me how much I weave around...so slidey...

but he's doing an incredible job considering he's using a keyboard. Aren't most of us? I am...

atmuh

03-15-2007, 03:02 AM

Victory versus Kholdstare, 3-1. It was fun but it reminds me how much I weave around...so slidey...

Aren't most of us? I am...

ps2 controller

and im still bad

beat Antipode 3-1

goldenkrnboi

03-15-2007, 04:44 AM

goldenkrnboi 3-1 Atmuh

i hate lag......

btw, i use a keyboard

vega12

03-15-2007, 04:47 AM

I use a keyboard as well :). It's not really a handicap at all I feel, unless you're just not used to it.

kamoh

03-15-2007, 07:16 AM

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7097/imageyb8.png
While there's never a "bad" match to play (whether or not you win or lose, just by playing you're screwing everyone else), there are "missed opportunities" that can really drag you down.

I lost Mario Circuit 1 vs. Linkspast - that's a blown chance if there ever was one - and only was able to beat him in 5 races. I was down until the very last race in Bowser Castle 2. Great games, and great usage of tools and advantage.

goldenkrnboi

03-16-2007, 12:38 AM

goldenkrnboi 3-1 kamoh

Good game

kamoh

03-16-2007, 01:08 AM

I am a sad kamoh.

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/893/imagesa9.png

KeeganTheFox

03-16-2007, 06:39 PM

Just so everyone knows I am currently in the process of reversing my own undeath. I'll try to keep in touch.

linkspast

03-17-2007, 07:20 AM

Just so everyone knows I am currently in the process of reversing my own undeath. I'll try to keep in touch.

What does this mean?

dPaladin

03-17-2007, 07:14 PM

What does this mean?
Either he's trying to turn himself into a human from a zombie, or he's attempting suicide.

Drack

03-18-2007, 02:53 AM

I may be at the bottom now, but I just got done taking midterms and traveling -- now I'm on SPRING BREAK.

This means I'll be playing plenty of matches. Let the best player win!

kamoh

03-18-2007, 05:33 AM

I may be at the bottom now, but I just got done taking midterms and traveling -- now I'm on SPRING BREAK.

This means I'll be playing plenty of matches. Let the best player win!

WOO DRACK
Beat the shite out of GKB and Fire (not too much though Fire's mah frande)

linkspast

03-18-2007, 06:03 AM

will there be a finals system of sorts?

kamoh

03-18-2007, 05:20 PM

will there be a finals system of sorts?
I'm not sure. I'd really like to get revenge on dPaladin and goldenkrnboi, so at this stage of the game I'm all for it. (although, with my luck, we'd have a finals system and I'd get the first seed, then get summarily destroyed in the playoffs).

The benefit I wasn't aware of until the AG tournament was adamant about HAVING a finals system was that we could almost completely eradicate the reporting system with finals. Since the ultimate goal is to find a single winner, the top 4 or 6 players in the round-robin will certainly have the best player (who actually shows up), regardless of reports.

I'm going to be looking to codify rules with Mew, Arek, and EasyP so that we can have a fairly uniform set of rules in place for finals. Since the four of us are the heads of tournaments, it'd be nice to use the same guidelines for all of them (or at least most - chess doesn't have quite the grand appeal that AG and EMU have gained so rapidly). PRC and ORC used to have the same voting guidelines and staggered their schedules pretty well until someone fucked it all up back in 2005.

Of course, that someone was me, but you live and you learn. Then you get Luvs.
http://img.epinions.com/images/opti/42/8f/Luvs_Diapers-resized200.gif

goldenkrnboi

03-18-2007, 10:33 PM

WOO DRACK
Beat the shite out of GKB and Fire (not too much though Fire's mah frande)

... gee..... thx. -_-

Theory of N

03-18-2007, 11:28 PM

Is it too late to join? >.> I've never played SMK and I'm on a keyboard but it doesn't hurt to try, eh?

Looking for the rom atm...

goldenkrnboi

03-18-2007, 11:40 PM

well, deadline to join is the 21st.

so....

yes, you can join!

as for the rom... well, google it.

Theory of N

03-18-2007, 11:49 PM

found it! Wow...turning is like...extremely sensitive. Learning to play right now. Hit me up on IRC or pm me if you want to race (practice right now...still haven't got it down.)

kamoh

03-19-2007, 07:19 AM

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6168/imagezn5.png

Theory of N

03-19-2007, 12:15 PM

kamoh

03-19-2007, 05:50 PM

I attempted to play with someone last night and I couldn't connect. He said it was because of my firewall but I cant disable it. My dad has Norton Internet Security on my comp and it's password protected. Any ideas on how to bypass this or if it's maybe something else that wouldn't allow me to connect?

Netplay instructions:
First, you need a netplay-enabled emulator (I suggest the latest version of ZSNES, link provided in Links below) and Hamachi (ditto on the link). ZSNES comes in its own package, so just download and extract from the ZIP. As for Hamachi, you'll need to install it. Once installed and configured, click on the Join Network button and join network "OCR Tournaments" and password "ocremix", both without the quotes. (I would appreciate that you do not join the network unless you are ACTUALLY in the tournament.) Once connected to Hamachi, you will have a special network IP. Open ZSNES, and click on NETPLAY, then on INTERNET. It will ask you to either start a server or connect to server. You can work this out amongst yourselves, because it really doesn't matter who does who, just be sure to give the other person your Hamachi IP. Once connected to each other, you'll have to both load the same ROM file (or compatible, they have to be the same type). One person can send a copy of the file to the other person, if necessary. After this, the game should start, and you can both play!

Links:

ZSNES:
There is apparently a new version of ZSNES out, v1.50. v1.50 has no netplay, so you will need to use v1.42.
1.42 (Windows):
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/zsnes/zsnesw142.zip
1.42 (Mac):
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/zsnes/zsnes142.zip

Hamachi:
http://hamachi.cc/

As for the ROM, we're not allowed to link to it, so you'll have to obtain it on your own.

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Theory of N

03-19-2007, 10:36 PM

yeah, we connected to his own hamachi server. Did all that and it wouldn't connect me. Just kept saying "connecting..." for like 10 minutes, even after it said "found client" on his end.

dPaladin

03-20-2007, 12:27 AM

Did you try using TCP/IP (uncheck "use UDP instead...") in ZSNES?

Drack

03-20-2007, 05:18 AM

Drack 3 - 0 linkspast
Drack 3 - 0 Atmuh

kamoh

03-21-2007, 07:19 AM

kamoh 3-1 vega12

Still, I won't be getting anywhere in the playoffs, I can tell...I need to get really lucky or really good.

Mewtation

03-21-2007, 09:55 PM

yeah, we connected to his own hamachi server. Did all that and it wouldn't connect me. Just kept saying "connecting..." for like 10 minutes, even after it said "found client" on his end.
ZoneAlarm occasionally does that to me. I disable it when it does that, then re-enable it when I'm done.

Also, I'm going to have to drop out of the tournament. I'll attempt to keep track of standings, but I probably won't have constant access to an internet connection for a while. I'll try to keep updating the thread for future months.

Theory of N

03-21-2007, 11:10 PM

Yeah, I don't know what was wrong, but I'm able to connect now, so I'm good!

KeeganTheFox

03-22-2007, 02:49 AM

Keegan is around and kicking, just very lethargic. Bother him on AIM for games! Do it!

kamoh

03-22-2007, 02:31 PM

Current standings are below, including vega's position if he was not ineligible for playoffs.

The playoffs are used to even the field for players that are doing very well but not playing a lot of matches. They are meant as an alternative to "Reports" so that we have a uniform and acceptable system of deciding the winner, without any subjective reasoning on my part. Again, PLAYOFFS are meant to REPLACE reporting.

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dPaladin

03-22-2007, 09:33 PM

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3-2 vs. Drack. I had one solid win and he had one solid win. On Koopa Beach we got the exact same time but I was given the win anyway. All in all, very close, and he's good with the shells.

Drack

03-22-2007, 09:38 PM

Extremely close game. Congratulations.

kamoh

03-22-2007, 10:29 PM

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Drack

03-23-2007, 12:49 AM

Drack 3 - 0 ToN

ToN played a lot better than I expected. Extremely strong for a new player.

Drack

03-23-2007, 02:04 AM

Drack 3 - 0 Antipode

Drack

03-23-2007, 02:24 AM

Drack 3 - 0 Keegan

kamoh

03-23-2007, 08:42 PM

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Here are the standings currently.

We will end the round-robin on Sunday and start playoffs - and hopefully end them - in quick succession next week. Vega12's games will not count because he cannot recieve a playoff berth.

PLAYOFFS:

The Top-6 formats available (with semi-final match-ups in parenthesis):
Traditional (1 vs. 4/5, 2 vs. 3/6), the traditional bracket format.
Reversed (1 vs. 3/6, 2 vs. 4/5), traditional, where 1 and 2 switch positions.
Odds-Evens (1 vs. 3/5, 2 vs. 4/6), best for second place finisher.
Champions (1 vs. 4/6, 2 vs. 3/5), best for first place finisher.

Seeds 1 and 2 will receive automatic byes to the semi-finals.

FORMAT: First to 5 races (by 2) or First to 7 races (by 1).
Start with Mario Circuit 1, loser picks next track, no special circuit (same as round-robin).

KeeganTheFox

03-23-2007, 09:50 PM

Keegan beats ToN after an intense 3-2 game in my favor! great game =D!

goldenkrnboi

03-24-2007, 05:01 AM

(toad) goldenkrnboi 3-0 Keegan (yoshi)

Keegan didn't do that bad, especially since he's a yoshi user. i remember when i used to be a yoshi user. that is, until i discovered toad. :D

edit: damn. that was horrible horrible horrible horrible horrible luck.
well, there goes my winning streak
(toad) goldenkrnboi 2-3 Sologamer (koopa)

Race 1 Mario Circuit 1:
race-wise we were equal. but damn. red shells really hated me today. solo had like 4 red shells in this one race, and no matter what i did, all of them hit. winner: solo

Race 2 Bower Castle 1:
nothing majorly happened. winner: me

Race 3 Mario Circuit 2:
aha. this time, the luck has run out for the gamer. :D i got 2 lightning bolts in a row. winner: me

Race 4 Koopa Beach 1:
dammit. like i said, red shells really hated me this match. i got hit by one and it cost me badly because i fell in the water. i never caught up. winner: solo

Race 5 Mario Circuit 3:
Damn. mistakes after mistakes after mistakes. Lap 1: solo takes lead, but i get mushroom. i use shortcut to lead. leader: me
Lap 2: solo gets mushroom, but i still maintain lead somehow. leader: me
Lap 3: solo gets another mushroom. i try to block shortcut. semi-works. solo gets through shortcut, but gets blasted into the wall thanks to arrow boost thing. leader: me
Lap 4: this is where my luck went down the toilet. I get green shell. and solo (no surprise) gets the stupid stupid red shell. i focus on the red shell, my timing on laying down the green shell, and the huge turn in Mario Circuit 3. I end up making the turn waaaay too early. and i end up getting stuck. solo easily passes me. takes me a while to get out. i try to catch him. But I get hit twice by the moving spike things to seal the deal. No need to post Lap 5.
winner: solo

Good Race.

SoloGamer

03-24-2007, 05:16 AM

I beat goldenkrnboi 3-2

Close races, which I only won by a lucky dose of red shells, as shown in the summary above, though I was quite proud of the shell hit in race 4 :D

Good match

kamoh

03-24-2007, 07:53 AM

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atmuh

03-25-2007, 03:28 AM

I beat Sologamer 3-2
IT WAS TIGHT

SoloGamer

03-25-2007, 03:32 AM

IT WAS TIGHT

Indeed. It was anybody's game in all but the last race, where I screwed up in Ghost Valley 2 and never recovered.

EDIT: Beat Antipode 3-1. Good match dude.

EDIT2: Kamoh, you forgot to add Keegan's 3-2 victory over Theory of Nonexistence to the scoreboard

vega12

03-26-2007, 02:44 AM

vega12 3-1 over Keegan

kamoh

03-26-2007, 05:00 PM

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Here is the final table of the round-robin stage. SoloGamer defeats Keegan for the last playoff spot based on points scored in matches. Vega12's games do not could either way - he is ineligible for playoffs and matches against him do not count.

kamoh

03-26-2007, 05:22 PM

And here is the final bracket:

http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/1977/imagemx5.png

The seedings format WAS chosen at random from the four above choices by dPaladin.
metzgerism (9:29:30 AM): pick a number
cnidog (9:43:18 AM): eleventeen
cnidog (9:43:24 AM): (21)

Playoffs start NOW so play whoever you need to to try and advance!
Remember: YOU MAY PLAY NON-CURRENT OPPONENTS. Right now, everyone could play everyone else potentially, so if you'd like to play 5 people in a 5-13 race series right now, you can. The results simply won't be known until AFTER the tournament is finished.

atmuh

03-26-2007, 10:53 PM

goldenwhoeveritis had better not have the lag he had last time or I aint playin

SoloGamer

03-27-2007, 12:10 AM

Ha, barely made it by the skin of my teeth

I really wanted to play a match against Keegan since we were so close in the standings, but it just never came to be

goldenkrnboi

03-27-2007, 02:02 AM

yes! i'm in kamoh's bracket!

now i just have to get past atmuh, and we'll have ourselves a rematch (hopefully, with the same results. XD)

dPaladin

03-27-2007, 02:47 AM

This should be interesting. My last match with Drack was essentially a draw.

kamoh

03-27-2007, 03:33 AM

yes! i'm in kamoh's bracket!

now i just have to get past atmuh, and we'll have ourselves a rematch (hopefully, with the same results. XD)

Hahaha...not. ;)

Dude I just got 1:07.01 on MC1 on 150cc GP

goldenkrnboi

03-27-2007, 04:36 AM

O.o holy crap.

.... well. that doesn't matter. you were facing comps. now you have to face the real things. :D

my main goal is to see dpal in the finals. but i would also like to see solo in the finals. i want some revenge. 8D. that's of course, if i make the finals in the first place.

atmuh

03-27-2007, 04:39 AM

goldenkrnboi

03-28-2007, 05:01 AM

.... O.o the lag wasn't that bad.... i think....

Oddllama

03-28-2007, 05:24 AM

Ohcrap, how didn't I notice this when I was signing up on the SFA tourney???

linkspast

03-28-2007, 05:56 AM

Anyone figure out how to record matches?

SoloGamer

03-29-2007, 04:52 AM

Anyone figure out how to record matches?
The record feature built into zsnes just records button presses and saves them to a .zmv file into whatever directory it normally saves .srm files.

Not really sure if it works in online play though. We can use something like Camtasia Studio (http://www.techsmith.com/download/trials.asp) to record the playoffs, I guess. Then we can start a youtube group and post playoff matches there for all future SNES (and AG) tourneys.

kamoh

03-30-2007, 12:57 AM

Sologamer and I played a final-match simulation. That means that if we both win through to the final, this match counts.

It was odd. It was strange. And on my side terrible.

Mario Circuit 1: Win for me, handily.
Mario Circuit 3: Win for me by a longshot.
Koopa Beach 1: Got him by avoiding two red shells and a late star.
Bowser Castle 1: Thorough outclassing, 1/2 lap victoly.

This is where things get hairy.

Ghost Valley 2: I go in thinking "hey, it's in the bag, I'm good at ghost valley."

WRONG.

I got summarily destroyed by both myself and Solo. And again. And again. And again. Every track I chose, I failed. Some close, some miserably. I always led early and dropped back late, or a quick skirt gets me here or there.

Major props to Solo for picking up the win.

---

Also, goldenkrnboi defeats me in a back and forth 5-3 decision. My future is in the hands of Atmuh now.

GLHF134340 to all!

goldenkrnboi

03-30-2007, 05:08 AM

dPaladin

03-30-2007, 05:29 AM

I won our advance match with Sologamer. I was beating him 4-0 but he made a decent comeback and actually beat me in my best course. The final score was 5-2 but many of them were close. It bugged me how he got three lightning bolts in the 7 races and I never got one, but oh well.

SoloGamer

03-30-2007, 05:35 AM

I also played a finals situation match with solo.

ok. i don't remember the entire match too well, so i'll just explain what had happened.

I was down either 3-2 or 3-1

and i eventually win the entire thing 5-3

sorry for no details.

memory block... gotta hate them. D:
yeah, it was pretty close for a moment there.

Just played a situation match with dPaladin
He was beating me pretty good the first four races, despite an early lightning bold in the first race. But in typical fashion, I started pulling victories out of my ass and won the next two races, thanks to a well timed lightning bolt in Mario Circuit, which made him miss the big jump.

The final race, vanilla lake, was pretty close. I was barely behind him in the final lap, with a mushroom in stock, but I ended up crashing against the wall when I used it and failed to catch up, ending it at 5-2 in his favor.

Drack

03-30-2007, 05:53 PM

Sorry for lagging behind. I'll be playing Solo soon, probably tomorrow.

Life has been outright crazy

kamoh

03-30-2007, 09:53 PM

dPaladin 5-3 kamoh.

This one was a lot more traditional in form, as I did not give up a huge lead or come back from a major deficit.

SoloGamer

04-03-2007, 01:33 AM

Lost to drack 5-1

GG, despite the lag. I just couldn't land a single red shell.

Drack

04-03-2007, 01:34 AM

Drack 5 - 1 SoloGamer.

dPaladin, prepare yourself.

kamoh

04-03-2007, 05:19 AM

MORE PLAYING!

Should we have a bracket deadline as well?

goldenkrnboi

04-04-2007, 02:43 AM

oh crap. i just remembered. spring break's coming soon. and i'm gonna be gone on vacation. i need to finish all my games before thursday.

if i can't do it, then i'll just forfeit to my opponent.

goldenkrnboi

04-05-2007, 06:20 AM

sorry guys. i was way too busy today. therefore, i resign from the playoffs. meaning atmuh will advance to semis.

(kamoh, you got really lucky. :P)

kamoh

04-05-2007, 06:41 AM

sorry guys. i was way too busy today. therefore, i resign from the playoffs. meaning atmuh will advance to semis.

(kamoh, you got really lucky. :P)
I'm very displeased with this. I want to start the next tournament in 24-48 hours, and we've been in the "playoff" stage for a week and a half - furthermore, only one match has truly been played.

Anyways...

Atmuh vs. kamoh
dPaladin vs. drack

winner vs. winner.

SoloGamer

04-07-2007, 08:13 AM

So, is this thing dead?

kamoh

04-07-2007, 11:26 AM

So, is this thing dead?

I dunno. dPaladin and I talked earlier and I wanted to figure out what game he would pick.
The most aggravating thing is that we've had playoffs for a while now and just about nothing has actually gotten done - to the point that I'm considering canning the playoffs and telling Mew to make the next thread with whatever we decide to have.

Drack wants Gundam Wing: Endless Duel
I want either Mario All-Stars Battle, or a sports title (NHL 94, Super Rugby, or Tecmo Super Bowl).
dPaladin hadn't really thought about it.
I think that Atmuh's gone MIA.

Do we need to make the "playoffs" smaller? Or maybe a pool instead of a bracket?

All I know is...we were supposed to be doing the next tournament by now, and we're not. This weekend it WILL be posted, and if nobody decides on a game or that they'd like to win the tournament, it's gonna be something I pick.

Theory of N

04-07-2007, 05:40 PM

Man, I would get so pwnt if it was Gundam Wing...the only fighting game I'm good at is SSB.

dPaladin

04-07-2007, 08:37 PM

I'm up for Tecmo Super Bowl. GO ALL THE WAY 1993 COLTS! Honestly though, I will play anything. I "have" every game.

kamoh

04-07-2007, 09:04 PM

I'm up for Tecmo Super Bowl. GO ALL THE WAY 1993 COLTS! Honestly though, I will play anything. I "have" every game.

If we do TSB, there's a question that has to be asked - which version?

1) The 1991, NES version, with major incompleteness (but is the competition friendly version).

2) The 1993, SNES version, which solves the issues from the above game.

3) The 1995, SNES TSB3, which has the two-point conversion but the gameplay is changed significantly.

Theory of N

04-07-2007, 09:51 PM

blech...I'm not big into sports games. At least not professional sports games. NBA Street was cool though.

kamoh

04-07-2007, 10:00 PM

blech...I'm not big into sports games. At least not professional sports games. NBA Street was cool though.

TSB is actually very arcade-y. The strategy/skill/luck ratio is pretty even, and you have just about as good of a chance of winning as anyone else.
I keep telling everyone this - the best sports game is a sports GAME, not a SIMULATION. Tecmo Super Bowl is undoubtedly a game first, and a very fun one at that, with a significant football element.

Unless we played TSB1, where I would run up the gut on you every time and score 100-0.

Mewtation

04-11-2007, 01:03 AM

So are we still doing this? My thoughts: hurry up and finish SMK so we can move on to next month's. We're behind.

kamoh

04-11-2007, 02:08 AM

So are we still doing this? My thoughts: hurry up and finish SMK so we can move on to next month's. We're behind.

Oh lol - I thought I made a post this morning about this but I guess not.

I'm wanting to finish this up after the backlash over moving on, so I'll be on for games when I'm online (which is admittedly not much anymore these days, but enough to play a bunch of rounds of hsf2).

kamoh

04-11-2007, 07:44 PM

Drack has stated we won't be playing for a while, so we're going to advance dPaladin.

Since dP has already defeated me, this gives Atmuh the inane opportunity to win the tournament from 5th position by playing only one match, if he wishes. However, I will be fighting on dP's behalf if it should come to that, since I'd like a highly un-warranted second place honor.

Atmuh vs. kamoh

Winner vs. dPaladin
(dPaladin 5-3 kamoh)

goldenkrnboi

04-15-2007, 06:50 AM

wow... this still isn't done?

dang. spring break is almost over too. i pulled out because i thought this would be done before i came back

kamoh

04-15-2007, 07:24 AM

wow... this still isn't done?

dang. spring break is almost over too. i pulled out because i thought this would be done before i came back

Welcome to the suck.

kamoh

04-16-2007, 06:49 AM

dPaladin is declared the winner, and he will select a game soon (hopefully by tomorrow). The deadlines will be truncated quite a bit so that we can get a rotation for tournaments going, and we won't declare the number of playoff advancers until the registration deadline has passed. However, plan on a three-week tournament.

dPaladin

04-16-2007, 10:38 PM

I want some feedback from everyone else on this, though. Right now I'm leaning toward Super Bomberman 2 for SNES.

But would anyone object/not be able to play if we used a N64 or GBA game instead? Super Smash Bros. on netplay might chop a bit, but that's an awesome game to play. Advance Wars for GBA could be great fun, but I admit that it's pretty time-consuming. The only problems I see with N64 is that mapping the controls to a keyboard is even crazier and that it will be harder to play online with a decent framerate. GBA basically functions like an SNES so we should be okay unless we can't find a good emulator. Thoughts?