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orkybash
09-10-2002, 02:42 PM
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon 'Technomancy'
Again, just posting this topic to add the ability to review this mix. Will listen later.
binster
09-10-2002, 04:50 PM
This is ace! I love it a lot.
I'm a big fan of crunchy SID style synthness. This really floats my boat - there are some lovely harmonies in there, and the percussion work's top notch. It's really inventive - a lot of changing segments.
Nice work, feller!
Binst
Shael Riley
09-10-2002, 05:56 PM
This is ace! I love it a lot.
I'm a big fan of crunchy SID style synthness. This really floats my boat - there are some lovely harmonies in there, and the percussion work's top notch. It's really inventive - a lot of changing segments.
Nice work, feller!
Binst
w007! Thank you very much! All the percussion- with the exception of the "ghostly" metal hit, which really functions melodically anyway- is sampled from a Casio Sk1. I got the idea to do the chip/not chip thing from the DDR MAX2 Remix of Burning Heat. (Very, very awesome.)
I suggest that anyone who enjoys this song, in any of it's incarnations, head over to VGmix and check out Nukkus's Kiss the Abyss, which is a really great counterpart to my piece as it's more in the original style of Awake and really rocks fairly hard.
JustinShaltout
09-10-2002, 06:19 PM
hmm not bad.. but I was hoping there'd exist more orchestral mixes of that particular song and many others from circle of the moon like the outer wall and the machine tower.. I really like all the themes but sadly it doesn't have an OST cause it's a GB advance game :/
This mix isn't bad but lacks the orchestral awe of the original.. could have been even better if over tthose synthetic instruments there was a chorus rise.. some church organ.. some piano here and there.. a Samba beat, and maybe some guitar too :P (maybe I'm goign too far lol) .. but it would be even cooler if so ^_^
Not bad though.. wish to hear more COTM Mixes :)
Nanaki
09-10-2002, 09:05 PM
About time someone remixed a song from Circle of the Moon! And it just happens to be my favorite song from the game too!
Really good remix, although personally I always thought it should be more of an Orchestral remix, but I like this a lot. Great job!
Shael Riley
09-10-2002, 09:40 PM
hmm not bad.. but I was hoping there'd exist more orchestral mixes of that particular song and many others from circle of the moon like the outer wall and the machine tower.. I really like all the themes but sadly it doesn't have an OST cause it's a GB advance game :/
This mix isn't bad but lacks the orchestral awe of the original.. could have been even better if over tthose synthetic instruments there was a chorus rise.. some church organ.. some piano here and there.. a Samba beat, and maybe some guitar too :P (maybe I'm goign too far lol) .. but it would be even cooler if so ^_^
Not bad though.. wish to hear more COTM Mixes :)
I originally had a chorus pad swell up at the crescendo of each motiff- not that my stripped-down, electronica version has anything resembling that sort of dynamics ;)- but I thought it conflicted with the retro, hollow, cold and mechanical sound I wanted so I ran it through some heavy duty aliasing and it became that "watery" effect you hear in the background.
As for the piano, church organ, guitar and samba beat, it sounds like a fucking awesome mix. Why don't you do it? :-p
Kabuki Dude
09-10-2002, 09:55 PM
Nice to see some Circle of the Moon Remixes. I've been playing this game a lot lately (That damn thief isn't strong enough!). Anyway, Quite an interesting take on it here. I didn't really hear a percussion backup, except for the snare drum quarter note repitition... And I can't help but feel this was made on the Game Boy Camera Dj Mode. Not bad overall, but I would suggest doing a more orchestral take, and improving your sound slightly.
7/10
Nukkus
09-11-2002, 05:14 PM
I've always been a fan of this song, as you can tell from my former vgmix "Kiss the Abyss". two thumbs up, three if i had another =D
Ryan8bit
09-12-2002, 02:22 AM
I haven't played CotM, but I really want to. I know, I'm a heathen.
Anyways, I like this mix and some of the retro style within it. It jumps around, but I like that. What about that ending note though, was it supposed to be like that?
Shael Riley
09-12-2002, 03:34 AM
I haven't played CotM, but I really want to. I know, I'm a heathen.
Anyways, I like this mix and some of the retro style within it. It jumps around, but I like that. What about that ending note though, was it supposed to be like that?
No! Good ear, to hear that it sounds a bit "off" during the last chord. I believe it's called a Pickedilly 3rd- resolving the last chord as major when the rest of the song isn't in a major key signature.
I wanted to capture the pure, innocent joy of the FM music that came out of the old NES, especially as heard by us when we were kids and to contrast it against the hollow electronica feel of the non-chip sections of the song. So, I raised the last interval a half-step to end on a major- rather than a minor- 3rd for a sort of beat-the-game feel. ;)
... You were talking about that, right?
Ryan8bit
09-12-2002, 06:32 AM
Well, I wasn't talking about the last major chord (at 3:12) ...I was basically talking about the last note which sounds like a square-wave that was off-key and didn't belong. (at 3:21) But if that was your intention, then so be it.
That's a minor problem anyways. The rest of it was good.
Dan Hibiki
09-12-2002, 12:23 PM
Just because it's one of the first, does not automatically make it good. This song lacks substance above all else, it sounds like something my old Commodore 64 pulled out of its ass. I have no idea what you were trying to achieve with this song. I hated it on vgmix.com, and I hate it here to. I sincerely hope that you, nor anybody else ever uses this style of music again.
Shael Riley
09-12-2002, 02:00 PM
Just because it's one of the first, does not automatically make it good. This song lacks substance above all else, it sounds like something my old Commodore 64 pulled out of its ass. I have no idea what you were trying to achieve with this song. I hated it on vgmix.com, and I hate it here to. I sincerely hope that you, nor anybody else ever uses this style of music again.
Ouch! And from someone who uses my favorite Pink-Gi'd champion as their alias too. Well, everyone's entitled.
Shael Riley
09-12-2002, 02:04 PM
Well, I wasn't talking about the last major chord (at 3:12) ...I was basically talking about the last note which sounds like a square-wave that was off-key and didn't belong. (at 3:21) But if that was your intention, then so be it.
That's a minor problem anyways. The rest of it was good.
Ah. Yes. There is a very subtle squire wave which is chromatic and brings it back to minor just at the very end, since it is a castlevania song after all.
Sesshoumaru
09-12-2002, 11:11 PM
This Mix recieves the...
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Chef Kawasaki Award of Excellence!
Good Work Shael Riley!
WhalePorn
09-13-2002, 02:16 AM
I would say this is not my prefered style of mix. It reminds me of genisis quality music, not a compliment. I think the older, almost 8 bit progression near the end was far more effective and enjoyable: If your going to regress a peice, you might as well do it all the way right? Not recommended
DJFunFunHappyTime
09-13-2002, 05:15 AM
W00t. Way to go Shael! :D
I heard this song in bits and peaces when you were makeing it, and i'm glad the finished version came out so well.
Anyway, maybe i'll remix something...even though the programs confuse me and i lack creative insight, oh well.
Best of luck in collage. Dont forget your friends.
I'm so glad i know you in real life :(
~~Ken 8)
Shael Riley
09-13-2002, 05:25 AM
W00t. Way to go Shael! :D
I heard this song in bits and peaces when you were makeing it, and i'm glad the finished version came out so well.
Anyway, maybe i'll remix something...even though the programs confuse me and i lack creative insight, oh well.
Best of luck in collage. Dont forget your friends.
I'm so glad i know you in real life :(
~~Ken 8)
Aaah! Ken! You have the best Alis on Overclocked. LOL! How's it going, man? Thanks for leaving comments. I never see you on Trillian anymore!
de-Rais
09-14-2002, 01:50 PM
Just because it's one of the first, does not automatically make it good. This song lacks substance above all else, it sounds like something my old Commodore 64 pulled out of its ass. I have no idea what you were trying to achieve with this song. I hated it on vgmix.com, and I hate it here to. I sincerely hope that you, nor anybody else ever uses this style of music again.
I wouldn't have put it *QUITE* like that, but at least somone saved me the trouble of trying to be uncharactaristically polite heh. It's not as abominable as THAT, but I must admit, while I was playing the game I was salivating at the idea of what OCRemix could come up with from the awesome music I was being treated to.... but yeah, the commodore 64 thing sticks.
i thought it was decent. not bad at all. as a matter of fact, i liked it.
Malefactor
09-15-2002, 04:01 PM
I've gotta hand it to ya Shael, this Remix really touched me. It brought me back to the old days of watching my brother and his friends play NES as I lay on the couch and watched. I especially love the chipy "commodore 64" feel, and how the watery sounds under the mechanical percussion emulates the feel of a flooded basement :D .
Even though it's not a song that would get me to stand up and shake my groove thang, I would definitely recommend it to anybody who would plugging in their old NES just to listen to the title screen music. :P
Two cheers fo Shael! Hurrah, Hurrah!
TimberWolf
09-15-2002, 05:29 PM
If you like Electronica: This Kicks Ass. If you don't like Electronica: This Still Kicks Ass, and you need more respect for where video game music roots began. The synths chosen for each track are either the work of someone who knows their sh... stuff, or is the best random selection i've ever heard.
Love this!! :mrgreen:
Hamu-Sumo
09-16-2002, 12:03 PM
Not bad, but not good, too. It is not my taste. People who like such a style should it hear!
6/10 (1=worst; 10=best)
tatsujin
09-25-2002, 02:26 AM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!
I don't know what all you nasty, nasty people were taking hits of,
but I don't give a monkey's _ _ _(fill in as you please) about your nasty opinions. :evil:
I love this mix. Maybe It's because I haven't heard the original, but this is quality stuff!!!
even if it may be simple, this is an absolutly awsome techno-ish mix, and yet still audably a Castlevania piece. I LOVE the high piched sections, and the whole ambiance of the piece in general.
I've got this thing playing once for every three pieces in my 4-hour playlist! (entirely of OC remixs)
A hearty cheer to Shael Riley!!! :P :wink:
:o HOOO-HAH! :o
:o HOOO-HAH! :o
:P WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!! :P
Blaster Atoms
09-25-2002, 07:04 PM
:D
reelmojo
11-26-2002, 04:23 PM
The original is a great tune, this is for lack of a better vocabulary, a great tune. The first time it changed to the NES sounding part my jaw dropped, and then later it reverted to the NES cound again and my jaw hit the floor. Its amazing how well that sounds in the midst of everything else. Great great stuff.
I think that this mix loses some of the harmony of the original song, but it replaces it with some of the most interesting electronic melodies I've heard in a while.
I'm usually not a big fan of mixes that remove the harmonies from a song, but this one is a lot of fun and it's a nice change of pace from my Rude Awakening version which I've worn completely out :)
Jogilius
12-02-2002, 01:25 PM
Me no like. Rude awakening, c'est besser.
Powerstreak
01-02-2003, 05:52 PM
Great fun in the simplicity of the tune, a fantastically nostalgic style tune. Great to dance to! It's got stuck in my head a fair bit, which is always a good sign.
Marte
01-15-2004, 07:20 AM
I love this mix, it sounds so electronic. It helps that I love the original song because this retains the melody perfectly. The only thing I wished for was for the percussion to be a little louder. But it's ok, good job!
kittyanya
02-23-2004, 03:48 AM
Ehhhh ..... it sounds a little too much like a MIDI file turned MP3 to me. I don't mind some sythesizer sounds but this feels ... a little over done with all the sounds. It won't stay on my regular playing list, I'm afraid. :(
Hogulus
06-07-2004, 09:02 PM
I like it. A lot. My only complaint is that it gets a little too... simplistic toward the end. I like the part immediately after the intro, how it has that air-wrench-sounding thing, and I like the short little NES-esque part, but it could use a little more harmony or beats or something toward the end.
schwagnah
09-15-2004, 07:11 AM
I thought is started out kind of odd, but after listening to it for a while, I realized that it is actually a good piece with a multiplicity of different sounds. It is different too, which is a good thing. Overall, the mix isn't something special, but it is different and it may take a few seconds to get used to, but after you get used to it, it is great!
7/10
Cheeszeman_
10-01-2004, 04:39 PM
yo. gotta tell ya, its a LITTLE more apropriate than Music of my Groin.... i agree, it does take some getting used to, but its a great piece! its quite addicting too! *doo doo do dodooodo dododododoo dood odood ododododododo* ahem.... yes
be smart
go to school.... wait no... oh yeah, get this mix
jordex
11-07-2004, 09:30 PM
Crazy, This is the oldskool style i'm looking for
I love the background noises
And I just effin love 1:23!
Go Listen now!
ghaleon
01-16-2005, 05:11 PM
I didn't like this song at first, but it's grown on me. It really keeps your attention and gets your feet moving, which is a problem I have with some of the softer remixes and even a few of the more laid-back techno songs. Plus I just love the name "Technomancy," for some reason.
nomindo
02-17-2005, 10:36 AM
cool stuff, a fun lil oldskool mix sometimes i miss the days of tracked music, being able to put a whole soundtrack onto a floppy
Baruch, Vampire Lord
12-29-2005, 10:02 PM
Excellent mix. Love the old timey feel.
9/10.
Darkmetamorphasis
12-29-2005, 11:04 PM
hmm not bad.. but I was hoping there'd exist more orchestral mixes of that particular song and many others from circle of the moon like the outer wall and the machine tower.. I really like all the themes but sadly it doesn't have an OST cause it's a GB advance game :/
This mix isn't bad but lacks the orchestral awe of the original.. could have been even better if over tthose synthetic instruments there was a chorus rise.. some church organ.. some piano here and there.. a Samba beat, and maybe some guitar too :P (maybe I'm goign too far lol) .. but it would be even cooler if so ^_^
Not bad though.. wish to hear more COTM Mixes :)
I originally had a chorus pad swell up at the crescendo of each motiff- not that my stripped-down, electronica version has anything resembling that sort of dynamics ;)- but I thought it conflicted with the retro, hollow, cold and mechanical sound I wanted so I ran it through some heavy duty aliasing and it became that "watery" effect you hear in the background.
As for the piano, church organ, guitar and samba beat, it sounds like a fucking awesome mix. Why don't you do it? :-p
Well if Michiru Yamane made a orchestrated OST of Aria of Sorrow, I'm pretty sure theres an Circle of the Moon out there somewhere, as for this song, its not that bad as I'd expect it, jsut wished that there were more remixes available
Baruch, Vampire Lord
01-29-2006, 05:18 AM
This piece needs even more attention than it has been given. Excellent Piece. After a few relistenings, I give a 10/10.
Kulaman
01-30-2006, 08:49 PM
I'm listening to the track while writing this, so bear with me.
my only problem with this track is the FL riff sample that starts in at 0:14, while it works well enough for the place, it could have been filtered or something, anything so it wasn't so blatantly straight off the FL samples list.
other than that, i love the song, even if it DOES sound lower than midi quality :P j/k, it's good. 8/10
Some of the percussion sounds like Simon is whipping baddies, even if he wasn't the main character of this title. The FM synth at 1:23 may be annoying when played too close to ears, but I enjoy it a lot. Also the NES piano was very well used as part of the percussion. Very imaginative.
I think the style of this one is a little too old school for my tastes, but the tempo shift at 1:32 was really well done and worked out for me.
Verdegrand
03-04-2010, 03:53 AM
This one is INCREDIBLE! I love how you anticipated what this piece could have sounded like if it would have been composed and put into a game 25 years ago. It fits the melody very well! I don't miss any instrumention at all! Great Job!
Marmiduke
02-05-2011, 05:12 AM
The pared-down sounds are a great idea in concept, but I don't know about whether a mix like this succeeds in establishing itself beyond an homage to its musical roots. I like chiptunes, especially the original Castlevania NES tracks, but there's something lost in the transition for this one.
The soundscape is dry and barren. The samples are quite fargone, and othertimes sound exactly like oldschool hardware. Which is nice for nostalgia-nuts, but that nostagia only gives a piece of music so much mileage. Production and arrangement are also methodical.
I don't know whether it's the age of this mix, or the confused simplification of the melody, but this hasn't stayed competitive at all. It's one of the first straight chip mixes, to be sure. But save for a few glimmers of creativity, it's a pretty empty version of a great piece of music.
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