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Jivemaster
05-10-2002, 11:45 PM
Zelda 64: Ocarina of Time 'Gerudo Peeples'
A fairly well produced mix we have here from Scott Peeples. Although not quite as inventive as most of his other stuff, it's still good. We've got flutes, guitars, some pretty cool drums (as always) as well as some strings and an acoustic bass, lightly panned in all different directions. It would have been really nice if Peeples actually got some more realistic guitar on here but nothing's perfect eh? The song starts out with the bass, then everything comes in with the layers of instruments changing every now and then to keep interest. The mix possesses quite a soothing sound (much like the original I suspect), especially in the flute areas. It's 3:21, but for some reason it feels really short - very weird. A decent mix, probably not one of Peeples' best, but still good.
mDuo13
07-21-2002, 10:54 PM
This is a nice mix of the Gerudo theme, though it's a bit slower than I would have thought necessary. Not Peeples' best, but pretty good, and with the Gerudo valley theme being as good as it is, you can't really go wrong. :D
EmptyMy
09-25-2002, 07:16 PM
I'm one of those who don't like the original Gerudo Valley song. It was sorta annoying. But still, I like the remixes of it on this site. Especially this one and pretzel's.
Oh, and by the way. Is it just me or is the bass a bit, well, off-key? Not exactly off-key. More like out of tune. Sorta annoying. It gets more obvious towards the end (at 3:03 when it's only bass and guitar). Of course, it could be me being not too musical. That's probobly it. ;)
Morphiechan
10-29-2002, 10:52 PM
:evil: This woulda been a really good remix.... IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT BASS! ^^() it's really offkey... I had to turn it off because it just didn't sound good at all... @_@ anyway... good job... just fix the bass pleeeease?
Jogilius
11-02-2002, 10:31 AM
Great melody the gerudo valley, and nice mix too.
At first, I didn't suspect anything...this mix started out with a nice standard bass line. But the instant the guitar accompaniment came in...I knew something had gone wrong. Horribly wrong.
No offense, Scott, but give your bass a tuning (so to speak). Or, sheesh, remove it altogether. It's for the remix's own good.
duo_kitty
01-02-2003, 05:33 PM
Heh, I've never really heard the theme before because I never play Zelda all the much, but I love it! ^_^ This is my kind of music. My friends thinks so too. ^_^ Keep up the good work! :)
quicksilver3987
01-12-2003, 10:31 PM
the song kicks major ass. The bass isnt off key, its just playing the wrong notes on beats one and three. At least people have stopped using that annoying hand-clap synthesizer voice as the drum beat for this song. Peeples has gold here, if he would just fix the bass line and submit a fix.
~QS
Danneman
02-13-2003, 09:26 PM
very nicely done, except for the bass line wich is a wee bit off... it should go C#-A-B-G#.. otherwise i like it..
PassivePretentiousness
02-24-2003, 11:30 PM
UGH. That's what most people say after downloading this. Well maybe. How should I know? What I do know is that bassline is terrible. On anything besides the cheapest computer speakers (AKA mine) the bass needs to be dropped to nothing. Otherwise the pain starts. Everyone in the world seems like they're obsessed with bass, so this is a bad thing for peeples. His other stuff is great but, really, even if you can get passed the bass issues, you still end up with a mediocre remix. 1/8- it would have been 2/8 but the voice told me otherwise.
LinkJay6
03-22-2003, 02:51 AM
Personally, I want Bass more on remixes. While it does seem off-key, you got to give Scott Peeples some credit here. Overall, I like the remix. I actually enjoy the bass on this, but if the off-key thing is fixed, it would make it a better remix. Nontheless, it's Good Stuff.
Drager19
03-22-2003, 05:42 AM
I really don't understand why everyone is complaining... this is one of my absolute favorites. I certainly don't have any problem with the baseline - in fact, I thought it was one of the best parts of the song.
there's olny one word for this and it si
GOOOOOOOOD
DarK_NebuLa
07-09-2003, 01:35 PM
Man this would have been perfect had it not been for the starting out of tune bass note...or at least it sounds like a quarter out of tune and the vibrations don't match up with the chords. That is a tiny detail though. The song is awesome, clear, crisp, and excellent production quality.
Tyler Heath
07-09-2003, 05:21 PM
Great song, but I agree with the majority of posts: that bassline kind of detracted a bit from the song. But other than that, quality stuff from the Peeples.
Corporal Eschebone
09-09-2003, 09:18 PM
Here's how you solve the bass problem.
Get some headphones. Don't turn them up all the way like some of you idiots do. And there you go, the bassline is fixed.
Trenthian
09-29-2003, 03:15 PM
Here's how you solve the bass problem.
Get some headphones. Don't turn them up all the way like some of you idiots do. And there you go, the bassline is fixed.
85%
Its not an issue with the quality of the bass sound... its an issue with the bass playing completely out of key with the rest of the piece...
:(
Is he ever going to fix that freaking bass?!
Gar! I love this mix, minus the bass.... its a real shame... that bassline is really driving this one into the freaking ground...
Scott, if you are out there! Dude... how can you live with yourself knowing that this bassline blows in every way digital and audial.
Man, drop that accoustic crap of a bass, and put the funk back into this mix.
you may drive me to have a crack at gerudo valley myself.
I can't find a fault with this song. It just sounds damn good. The offkey bass works for me. The guitar work made me expect Ricky Martin's voice to break in =P
ladykaiyu
11-13-2003, 07:55 PM
Okay, I know that several posters have said that the bass is off-key and detracts from the rest of the song, but I personally like the bass and think it adds flavor to this mix. Scott has some sweet mixes, and this one's my favorite...and this is also my favorite Ocarina of Time remix.
kirbenvost
02-02-2004, 09:50 AM
I like it. It's quite good, especially in the percussion department. My only complaint is (yes) the off-key bass.
I really like this song alot....except for one thing of course. One repeating bass note is off key by 1/2 step. Imagine each number representing a step in a chromatic pattern (ie: 1=A 2=Bb 3=B 4=C 5=C#).
This is how the bass goes in the song:5 5 5 5 0 0 0 0 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3...when it should be 4 4 4 4 0 0 0 0 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3. Just fix that one problem please. I hate to see an awesome song be ruined by such a mistake. I like the song alot...I really do...but that off-key note really rubs me the wrong way and I gotta stop listening to it.
Besides that, the guitar sounds great and the whole song flows smoothly and its really relaxing.
The_Wind_Waker8
03-01-2004, 11:07 PM
The return of Enrique Iglesias!!! :lol: It is good song!
Czar Diego
03-02-2004, 01:16 AM
Here's how you solve the bass problem.
Get some headphones. Don't turn them up all the way like some of you idiots do. And there you go, the bassline is fixed.
85%
Its not an issue with the quality of the bass sound... its an issue with the bass playing completely out of key with the rest of the piece...
:(
Is he ever going to fix that freaking bass?!
Gar! I love this mix, minus the bass.... its a real shame... that bassline is really driving this one into the freaking ground...
Scott, if you are out there! Dude... how can you live with yourself knowing that this bassline blows in every way digital and audial.
Man, drop that accoustic crap of a bass, and put the funk back into this mix.
you may drive me to have a crack at gerudo valley myself.Yes. *head explodes*
Snoozer
03-02-2004, 09:39 PM
nice interpretation... i like this song *thumbs up*
No wonder it sounded weird on my iPod. Last time I turn the bass booster on... being the total music moron I am, I switched it to Treble booster. Sounds fine, actually. But someone reading this is probably thinking, "NO NO NO!!!" Any suggestions?
Oh yeah. The review. Pretty good. One of the best remixes of Gerudo Valley. It's one of my fav. OoT songs.
TheBaConMan
04-29-2004, 03:34 AM
You can never have enough of those, Gerudo Songs man..
- - Never :roll:
neoslicexxx
06-25-2004, 08:34 AM
It's complete and utter crap. Y? U KNOW! U CAN HEAR IT! BASS! U can't submit a professional remix with something off key, and u can't say he meant 2 do it, because it sounds likes shit. People don't mean to make things that sound like shit.
Every1 who said it was good is a friend of the guy, or is tone deaf. I assure you, that's a fact.
And for every1 who liked the rest of the piece, It's pretty much just the original mix. Barely a diff. Only change was THAT SHITTY PAINFUL-TO-HEAR BASS!
XeLa89
08-21-2004, 06:42 PM
the bass drives me crazy. plz fix it.
SolidStriderX
09-01-2004, 10:30 PM
Someone is taking Credit for your work.............here is the link...........it is from newgrounds.com.................
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/view.php?id=768323&sub=13658 it is called- Zelda Gerudo Oc. remix ............unless you are that DJ_BlammerC .......then just ignore this message.........I just knew it sounded familiar......so there you go. He/She is claiming it is their work and not yours.
Hoshiakari
02-09-2005, 04:42 PM
It's complete and utter crap. Y? U KNOW! U CAN HEAR IT! BASS! U can't submit a professional remix with something off key, and u can't say he meant 2 do it, because it sounds likes shit. People don't mean to make things that sound like shit.
Every1 who said it was good is a friend of the guy, or is tone deaf. I assure you, that's a fact.
And for every1 who liked the rest of the piece, It's pretty much just the original mix. Barely a diff. Only change was THAT SHITTY PAINFUL-TO-HEAR BASS!
Neoslice - You know, you're quite the hypocrit. You say people don't mean to make things that sound like "shit". Well, if people don't mean to make things sound like shit then why would people make things to look like shit?
That's the case with your post/review. I find it rather amusing in the least, if not a bit annoying as well. You did nothing but badmouth the song, however, you couldn't even spell things correctly nor spell them out. I find that rather pitiful. It's sad that the culture is falling prey to such things as 'leet' speak and 'net-lingo'.
Just because you do not agree with the harmonization of the music does not mean it's shit, nor does it mean the people who like it are tone deaf. I take offense to that, as I play the violin and do a great deal of singing. I am NOT tone deaf, actually, I'm quite the opposite. I have a very GOOD ear for music and intonation. You are the one who is tone deaf, as you cannot appreciate nor comprehend different variations on the harmonizations.
Also, if you are going to flame someone, at least do it in proper english.
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Now that that's off my chest, I would have to say that I enjoyed this remix quite a bit. Yes, the bass is a bit massive and would be better if it was turned down a notch or two, however, one can fix that with his/her own stereo.
The music was beautifully orchestrated and stuck to the original score very closely. I've heard other remixes that claimed to be a certain song but sounded nothing like the original.
Seeing that Gerudo Valley was my favorite piece of music in OOT, I am definitely more critical on the remixes of it. This one did not let me down in the least bit.
Keep up the good work! -- also ignore the flamers who cannot type in proper sentences as well as proper grammar. If they do not have enough brain to be able to make coherent thoughts, they don't have enough of one to tell what is good music and what is bad music. 8)
F'lar
02-10-2005, 12:39 AM
Wow, It's been on almost every playlist i've ever made and i still haven't reviewed it?
Well, the bass I must say I like *prepares himself for flamers* and the guitar piece as well. -Slightly- repetitive for me, but that may be because i've been listening to it for over a year now. Which that in itself is great praise, because I start to get bored with most songs after about 3 months, and this one was my first, and still is, my favorite remix.
Did I mention that the part with the Ocarina sounds really, really good? I've played the ocarina (An Ocarina of Time replica ;) and it sounds just like it.) Good job, Mr. Peeples.
Dolphin
03-05-2005, 12:09 AM
It's a close tie between this and Gerudo Interlude, but I gotta say, this one takes it IMO. Slowing down the beat of all-powerful Gerudo Theme really brought a new feel to it, and simply put, everything sounds great! 10 outta 10, keep the great remixes comin' Peeples!
mikelee
04-04-2005, 08:37 AM
I know it's been a while since this song has been released, but unfortunately, listening to this remix late at night in all it's glory has spurred me to register and make my first comment (and further procrastinate on the work I'm trying to finish up).
I have to say, this remix takes one of the catchiest tunes in the game and turns it into a legitimately good piece of music. The guitar is well done, and while it's not the most realistic of the sounds I've heard, the quality is definitely up there, and the texture it provides is exactly what this song needs. The flute is rustic and takes the melody well, and the percussion is superb -- it really helps make this piece as good as it is.
What's unfortunate is that the bass line really doesn't form the proper progression. Maybe it's intentional, and to some extent, I can see how that fits the track. Still, being somewhat musically inclined, it bothered me enough to make me write this review and take note of it. I love strong bass lines not for their own sake, but because they complement a piece well -- and while this remix exemplifies that extremely well in this case, the pitch is still bothersome.
I don't know if it's appropriate to make such a request, but is it possible for Scott to release a "friendly bass" version to silence the complaints? If it's not, I still appreciate this song very much, and will still listen to it quite a bit -- it's just that good, great for these chill moments in the middle of the night.
progressive
06-17-2005, 12:25 AM
I'll chalk this one up to the Great Remix Shortage of 2000---it's a masochist's dream.
I can't figure out why you made the bassline out of key and I don't really want to. I have a really good sound system but I can't listen to this song on it. Simply because the subwoofers keep pouring out the wrong notes. It's terrible, don't put the bassline out of the key of the song. It's a bad idea. I couldn't even finish the song because of it.
Crazyonr1
08-02-2005, 04:27 PM
Despite what everyone says about the bassline being wrong, I think it works with at least some of the notes, and the rest of the time its dissonate, so be it, great work Peeples 10 outta 10
Benjamin Briggs
08-02-2005, 07:37 PM
I'm pretty sure the bass just plays a different chord tone than the root on the 3rd and 4th notes, and the reason it sounds bad is because the sample is out of tune. But it was meant to sound right, and this track's still a classic in my book.
-chth
Ichitootah
08-02-2005, 11:38 PM
With a stretch of the imagination, I can listen to this song and hear the bass play in tune. And it sounds good.
Phényx
08-15-2005, 12:03 AM
Yeah ! Very nice sound... but the bass sounds dissonant on some chords, I don't like that :roll:
Anyway, it's some good job, really great 8)
Benjamin Briggs
08-15-2005, 07:01 AM
That's it; I'm solving the mystery of the Bad Bass once and for all (exclamation points signify "bad" notes):
:!: The first note the bass plays is an F#. The chord is F# minor. Therefore, the bass is playing the root. However, it's ridiculously sharp. The sample is out of tune on this note, and this is what creates the dissonance.
The second note is a D. The chord is D major. Therefore, the bass is playing the root (again). The note is in tune this time, and it sounds fine, as it should.
:!: The third note is a C. The chord is E major. Therefore, the bass is playing the 6th scale degree. This is an extremely unusual chord tone for bass instruments. It's possibly intentional, but it's definitely a source of the "dissonance" that everyone is hearing.
The fourth note is also a C. The chord is C major. Therefore, the bass is playing the root. It sounds fine.
So, to recap: The culprits are 1. an extremely out of tune first note, and 2. a questionable choice on the third note.
That is all.
-chth
Princess_Of_Memories
08-16-2005, 05:35 AM
Who ever keeps complainiong about the bass it is fine. Please don't mess with it... unless it was bad and you fixed it, in which case good job.
Bottom line is I love it the way it is and I don't want it to change!
ZeldaMan101
09-23-2005, 01:16 AM
i love this tune! it kicks the biggest BEEP out of most the other songs (i dun even know if that makes sense). but, people do have a bit of a point to the base. couldve just been a mistake. probably fogot to tune it before recording. but this is still one of the best songs ever made. :D
YearXero
10-02-2005, 11:02 AM
The Gerudo song from OoT has been my favorite Zelda song for a while, and this mix definitely does it justice in my ears. It gives me that same feeling that the original did, images and urges of thievery (that didn't sound good ~ nevermind I said that). It does sound much like the original, but that's the beauty of it. It's also great fighting music, like some great ninja or shinobi battle or something. Great job Mr. Peeples. 10/10
Also, being the music enthusiast that I am, as I listen to a song, I don't focus on one thing within the song, I listen to everything.... the bass is fine, though I've not heard it with a subwoofer or anything like that, I can tell that that would be everyone's problem. Amplifying the bass doesn't help every song, though it does help most.
Kozmo
02-16-2006, 12:44 AM
i like this song a lot. i think that the string chords in the background really enhance the overall sound. The bass sounds great when it enters, but when the guitar chords and strumming enter after it, the notes sound really atonal. This was one of the first remixes i listened to when i joined, and i dont really know why, but those bass notes bother me a lot. Once they are out of the picture for a while (0:48) I really take an intense liking to the mix. It's very clean and pronounced.
nitroXpress
06-11-2006, 06:29 PM
This song sounds like a song that would come from the country Greece. lol. I love all Gerudo Valley Remixes, but by far, I like this one the best. I love the guitar in this Remix and percussion also. Must downlaod.
MajLink
06-11-2006, 08:46 PM
I really like this song. I was listening to it well before i became a member. I was really excited when i heard it because it brought back so many great memories of the game. Also this remix is my favorite mix of the gerudo valley theme that i have yet to find on the internet. Great job!
Tradealliancesenator
07-24-2007, 01:33 AM
I liked this one. The bass didn't detract very much. I'm always listening to music while on the computer, while putting the song on repeat. I've listened to it 25 times in 3 days. I forgot to change the song. :grin:
L. Adam Bell
07-25-2007, 05:21 AM
The beat that's dropped on top of the traditional Gerudo theme is nice and sweet, even if the melody gets rather repetitive. You haven't really done anything original with this piece, Mr. Peeples—no creative license, not beyond instrument choice, anyhow—and the synth that used later on for the melody is a bit low-quality. Not bad, but just not great, either.
My rating: 3/5
Nicholestien
02-23-2008, 07:38 PM
whoever thinks that bassline is off is retarded.
end of discussion, the bassline makes this mix magic.
like how the fuck is a peice of music that comes from gerudo valley supposed to play by the rules of western music?
makes some fucking sense for once your lives. >_>
ShoopdaWhoop
07-18-2008, 12:17 PM
fyi for those of you who have no clue what's being said about the off-key situation, the first note of the repeating bassline is about a half step higher than it should be, resulting in the melodic and harmonic guitar to sound off pitch and very painful to the trained ear... .
i've been a musician for damn near 10 years and i cant listen to this piece in a sane manner due to that...
if you dont have a real ear for music you may not pick up on it, it's very slight... but it stands out to me. t
his is a great piece, very nicely produced with a great feel. i like the guitar riff and the way the bass pulses makes for a really cool undertone.
i just wanna tune the bass a halfstep lower so it matches the overlaying guitar. because it IS offkey. end of story.
please fix that tiny thing peeples. it'd make the piece bareable for me. because i really wanna add this to my collection. i just... i just cant... lol
WillRock
08-24-2008, 09:06 PM
Ok, I know this has been commented on a lot, but it that bass needs addressing. I mean, the bass isn't even out of tune, it plays clashing notes that are in tune, and they clash horribly! 8-O
Ok, so the 1st chord of the sequence is a F sharp minor. The bass plays a G over that which clashes.
The second chord is fine, in key perfectly.
The third chord is E major. The bass plays a C sharp over that. :?
The forth chord of the sequence is C sharp major and the bass plays the root note C sharp, which makes the third chord sound even weirder as the bass note of the third and forth chords are the same :?
This repeats over the melody and ruins the mix for me.
Sorry, but do not like this remix currently, however, if peeples resubs with bass fixes the mix would be awesome.
Actually, after taking the time to listen to it closely, I have to agree that the bass is a bit flat through the whole song. The song would be perfect without the bass.
Secor
08-27-2009, 08:54 PM
For me, this is like the first time I baked cookies.
I followed the recipe very closely, being sure to include all the necessary ingredients. The only problem was when it came to adding the baking powder, which was required at a quantity of 2 teaspoons. Misreading the recipe, I added 2 CUPS. The ensuing cookies were entirely inedible.
There are a lot of good things going on here in this mix to which I enjoyed listening. However, a simple error of a half-step in the bass line has caused this track to be "unlistenable" in another post-ers words.
Sorry Scott!
realdeal_55
09-06-2009, 06:32 AM
I want to love this mix. I really, reeeeeallly do. But the bass is just too off for me.
Can we please get Scott to fix it?
TenchuX
09-12-2009, 02:55 AM
Honestly I don't know why people are getting down on this song... it's over NINE YEARS OLD.
Look at the UPLOAD DATE.
Hell Scott was what... 14 when he made this song? Freshman in High School?
Appreciate this song for the era in which it was made and by the hands that made it during the time.
Overdriven
03-19-2010, 12:56 AM
Honestly I don't know why people are getting down on this song... it's over NINE YEARS OLD.
Look at the UPLOAD DATE.
Hell Scott was what... 14 when he made this song? Freshman in High School?
Appreciate this song for the era in which it was made and by the hands that made it during the time.
Forget about appreciating it for its time and maker, its just plain GOOD. Honestly, Scott Peeples is a good ReMixer, and he ReMixes a good piece of VGM to come out with this. You know what? It's GOOD. Big surprise.:sleepzzz: Don't look for flaws, just listen to it, and you'll be okay with, trust me. It's called "enjoying a ReMix." :roll:
It's an older track, and I can see why a lot of people will love it, because there is a lot of excellent stuff going on, but that bass note hurts me.
I can't do it. Sorry. :-(
champ the hippie
08-29-2011, 08:18 PM
this mix surpasses a lot of more modern mixes on this site and is easily one of the best gerudo mixes. people shouldn't judge music by its quality or, say, its bit count! isn't that what this site is about? this is an excellent example of a great mix, and anyone who says different needs a serious reality check
Brenderous
05-30-2012, 03:35 PM
Still one of my favorites. That bass note is annoying, but it's become part of the song's charm for me at this point.
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