Blizzard is making a "next gen MMO".

[Bigfoot]

via http://www.kotaku.com

Check out the job listings, heh.
http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/

[Raenok]

...World of Warcraft 2!?

Nah...let's just hope they take a different approach.

[Tacitus Krekt]

All blizzard hate aside, but they're looking for (as per article):

The company is looking for a lead engine programmer, lead tools programmer and lead technical artist.All I get is the image of a director spouting off:

"Next gen is where it's at mates! All we need is an entire design team, with no prior motivation in making this project, to make us moneys!

cliff notes:
Next gen
?????
Profit!

[[]Diracy]

they intend to announce a new product at the Worldwide Invitational in Korea on May 19.

I'll be watching....

[Bigfoot]

Diracy;264697']I'll be watching....

Yeah, people were thinking Starcraft 2, but it looks like they're wrong.

[Sir_NutS]

Starcraft is still isanely popular in Korea, I see it as the perfect place to announce starcraft 2. That an big sites like ign and gamestop have been hinting at that.

I really hope it is though, I love starcraft and I'm confident in blizzard, 100%.

[BigBoss]

Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 come OOOOOOOOOON Diablo 3

[Tacitus Krekt]

Assuming it is Starcraft...will it go the Planetside route - or what Twilight Wars originally intended? Or will it be WoW with guns? errm, wait.

Then we have Diablo...which might be the more logical choice in regards to a straight mmo / rpg / fantasy style game.

[Evilhead]

Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 Diablo 3 come OOOOOOOOOON Diablo 3


I was going to make the EXACT same post. PLEASE be Diablo 3.

[Shonen Samurai]

Don't forget about Blizzcon.

Seems like they only have a Blizzcon when there's something to announce.

[weggy]

I dont see any detail on the full story there...

I had in fact, read they are working on TWO games. The one you speak of, is going to be announced in South Korea. I think this is painfully obvious that it will be Starcraft related.

Then, on a completely unrelated subject, Blizzard is also starting work on a next gen MMO. This will either be an exapansion to WoW, such as Northrend (seems kind of strange to call an expansion next-gen though), or more likely, Diablo/A new franchise.

For the love of all that is unholy be Diablo 3.

[Bahamut]

I will just say I have had confirmation from a few sources about 3 games Blizzard has in the works...I'm thinking they'll announce Diablo 3 though, they have direct competition in the form of Hellgate: London coming up, so I'd think that'd be the first game they'd announce.

[siven7]

Could it be a StarCraft MMO? That would be wild... I don't even know what that would be like, but I wouldn't want to be the SCV that meets up with another dude who's a battlecruiser...

[Eten]

If we're playing the "bet your monies on the blizzard game" I'm hoping for an RTS such as Starcraft 2. To "blizzard" quality of course, but I'm sure everybody hopes that. Then again it's not the Blizzard or Starcraft or any other names that makes something good, it's the developers that make the game that make it good. So here's me hoping they get good developers!

[Citris]

I still have a little hole in my heart from Starcraft Ghost... :cry:

[siven7]

did they release starcraft ghost? I remember thinking that it looked really cool, but never say anything from it...

[I-n-j-i-n]

StarCraft Ghost was canceled indefinitely..

I think a Diablo MMO sounds good and more feasible than other ideas.

[Yoshi3gg]

Yeah, people were thinking Starcraft 2, but it looks like they're wrong.

Not necessarily. It's quite likely that these job listings are completely unrelated to the announcement coming up next month. You don't start hiring leads when you're far enough along on a project to announce it and release screenshots, unless that project has seen some serious internal turmoil.

did they release starcraft ghost? I remember thinking that it looked really cool, but never say anything from it...

Ghost was put on hold indefinitely a few months back, so we probably won't be seeing it any time soon, if ever.

[linkspast]

Ghost it will come out right after Duke Nukem forever comes out....

[Citris]

Ghost it will come out right after Duke Nukem forever comes out....

They can sell them as a dual-feature type deal.

[Bigfoot]

Ghost it will come out right after Duke Nukem forever comes out....

Heh, yesterday marked the 10th year anniversary since Duke Nukem Forever was announced.

[Dark_T_Zeratul]

I don't think this new MMO they're making is going to be announced next month, given that they're only just now hiring people to make the engine. Announcements generally aren't made until that part is mostly complete.

[SPIKENOX07]

How can it be Diablo 3? Didn't I destroy all three soul stones in Diablo 2? Has Diablo found another way to come back to life? It would be nice if it was Diablo 3, but I doubt it.

[Hyperion5182]

How can it be Diablo 3? Didn't I destroy all three soul stones in Diablo 2? Has Diablo found another way to come back to life? It would be nice if it was Diablo 3, but I doubt it.

That was my thought L.O.D. Shutdown the entire Diablo storyline. Something could happen in that world but there is no way i can think of it would involve the 3 prime evils. Though it would be very intresting to see the effects the destruction of the worldstone had on the world.

If it is somehow SC related god help us all. They are launching a new patch for Starcraft and they seem to be ramping things up again. SC:2 would be a scary thing...imagine being able to be a zerg and as you level go through the various forms and evolutions. As a protoss start off as a zealot becoming a dragoon or taking the path of a templar. Or as a terran. Starting off as a marine becoming a firebat given the controls of a Goliath then transferring into drop ships and eventually getting command of one of those friggin battlecruisers. The possiblites in an SC MMO are near endless especially if it goes to multiple highly detailed planets and involves space warfare.

But no one knows where it is yet. Keep your eyes peeled.

[Zaxter]

How can it be Diablo 3? Didn't I destroy all three soul stones in Diablo 2? Has Diablo found another way to come back to life? It would be nice if it was Diablo 3, but I doubt it.
You'd have to fight Diablo's ghost in Diablo 3. Duh.




(Note: I've never beaten D2, I don't know how it ends)

[Bigfoot]

They could just resurrect Diablo. Konami gets away with it.

[Arek the Absolute]

About Diablo unable to be brought back, does the name sigma ring any bells?

[suzumebachi]

You guys are all way off, the new game is gonna be Rock N' Roll Racing Online.

[Hector]

I think it would be best if they were to try and combine an MMO with a strategy game. One player could be waging a battle, but others could be having an RPG experience amidst that battle, and even selling their services to the various sides. It would be a good way for Blizzard to continue their RTS traditions while furthering their MMO ambitions.

[The Author]

You guys are all way off, the new game is gonna be Rock N' Roll Racing Online.


How about Age of Lost Vikings?

[Raenok]

I think it would be best if they were to try and combine an MMO with a strategy game. One player could be waging a battle, but others could be having an RPG experience amidst that battle, and even selling their services to the various sides. It would be a good way for Blizzard to continue their RTS traditions while furthering their MMO ambitions.

And would kill Warhammer: Age of Reckoning. Hell, I'd play it!

[TaVeRnErO_RuDd]

i'm an avid WoW player. But i'd drop WoW in a heartbeat for Diablo 3 or starcraft 2,...seiously..starcraft was my first ever RTS...it's what made me become a gamer! and diablo is just awesome

also!

Every blizzard game has ended with the bad guys winning
in starcraft kerrigan conquers the universe
in warcraft arthas becomes the lich king and is currently the most powerful creature on azeroth
in diablo baal corrupts the worldstone and you are sent to some random safe place because the worldstone can't hold back Hell and the planet is in trouble

everyone of them (excluding warcraft because it has a WoW already) is sequel-worthy

[Bigfoot]

I wouldn't care for a Starcraft MMO. I'm not a fan of sci-fi MMOs.

[Raziellink]

Seeing that it has been a long time since Blizzard has done something with Starcraft, i'll bet that that's the one. Especially when it is gonna be announced in Korea.

But i'd rather see Diablo 3. I've never played Starcraft, and i never will. Yes, it's blasphemy, but i just don't like RTS games, and especially the ones in the future.

[Evilhead]

You know it's weird, but I've beaten Diablo 2 well over 100 times and I don't think I ever watched any of the cut scenes all the way through, and sure as HELL didn't listen to any of the NPCs. Diablo 3 could have us battling the easter bunny for I care.

[Citris]

You know it's weird, but I've beaten Diablo 2 well over 100 times and I don't think I ever watched any of the cut scenes all the way through, and sure as HELL didn't listen to any of the NPCs. Diablo 3 could have us battling the easter bunny for I care.

And lo', many centuries ago he hid his seeds of destruction. With there dark yolk floating in the soft albumen of evil, they await the time to spring forth from their colorful prison to wreak havoc upon the land.

The Horadrim has since spent that time searching for and destroying as many as they can, but they are too numerous to count. We need you, Hero.

The time is now...

[Raziellink]

You know it's weird, but I've beaten Diablo 2 well over 100 times and I don't think I ever watched any of the cut scenes all the way through, and sure as HELL didn't listen to any of the NPCs. Diablo 3 could have us battling the easter bunny for I care.

The cutscenes are still cool to watch, and the dialogue was pretty nice to listen to sometimes. Shame you never did, It partially takes away your involvement in the game.

[Evilhead]

The cutscenes are still cool to watch, and the dialogue was pretty nice to listen to sometimes. Shame you never did, It partially takes away your involvement in the game.

I must have watched them at some point, and remember some nice voice acting in there, but once you get involved in online play you are too busy clicking through them to get your character to Hell so you can pwn some cows.

[Shadow Wolf]

I would be all about a Starcraft MMO, as long as it looks as good as EVE without being as boring as EVE was. Another thing I wish Blizzard would do in their next game: Allow players to take territories. Hell, I wish they'd implement it in Warcraft. Right now, it's either Horde, Alliance, or contested, and it doesn't change. I think it'd be wicked awesome if each area in the game had a series of 'flash points' that could be taken over by the other factions. Once a group holds all the hot points in an area against all comers for say, three days to a week, control of the territory goes to that faction. I understand a lot of people would hate that, but if they made it a PvP only thing, or even put up four or five dedicated servers, it would rock my socks. I think it would be INSANE to actually have a war in Warcraft.

[Rumina]

There's the possibility for a Diablo MMO that it could take place as a prequel. That would be pretty cool in my opinion and opens up a lot of possibilities. But again I wouldn't care since I sure didn't play D2 for the storyline. Also waiting for Hellgate: London though.

[Eulogic]

BlackThorne 2: BlackerThorne

[Razumen]

Diablo as a MMO would totally ruin any interest I would have in the sequel. Unless it somehow manages to rise above the festering pile that MMOs currently occupy.

[i <3 robots]

I would be all about a Starcraft MMO, as long as it looks as good as EVE without being as boring as EVE was. Another thing I wish Blizzard would do in their next game: Allow players to take territories. Hell, I wish they'd implement it in Warcraft. Right now, it's either Horde, Alliance, or contested, and it doesn't change. I think it'd be wicked awesome if each area in the game had a series of 'flash points' that could be taken over by the other factions. Once a group holds all the hot points in an area against all comers for say, three days to a week, control of the territory goes to that faction. I understand a lot of people would hate that, but if they made it a PvP only thing, or even put up four or five dedicated servers, it would rock my socks. I think it would be INSANE to actually have a war in Warcraft.

Yeah it sounds good in theory, but in the game it would be 85% (or more) of the time the Alliance would hold those points. The Horde is sorely out numbered on all servers. No one wants to be a big green hulk, a smurf with tusks, a big cow, a smelly zombie, or a pointy-eared pale junkie bimbo. :< :(

As for Blizz's next-gen MMO I really think it'd have to be Diablo orientated. As much as I'd like a SC MMO, I don't see how much it'd be different from WoW, except with maybe ship combat and flight. SC was really just WC IN SPACE (lol) however SC was much more balanced and evovled than, say WC2 to WC3.

[Evilhead]

Diablo as a MMO would totally ruin any interest I would have in the sequel. Unless it somehow manages to rise above the festering pile that MMOs currently occupy.

That would be the goal indeed. I'd say they could retain some of the feel of D2, since it went online very well. What I liked about D2 is you could have dozens of characters instead of constantly working on one dude for hundreds of hours. True, to get to level 99 took time, but getting to level 85 could be done in a week or two easily.

[linkspast]

if Starcraft were to become an MMO Id have to say a large portion of Korea would die in front of their screens to starvation...

[Shadow Wolf]

Yeah it sounds good in theory, but in the game it would be 85% (or more) of the time the Alliance would hold those points.


Actually, it's much more 50/50 than most people think. Of course noody but Blizzard has the actual stats, but they will shuffle people around on servers to maintain balance by offerring them free character transfers, etc. It's pretty balanced. What changes it is the number of Alliance and Horde actually logged in to a server, which even Blizzard has no control over. Also, if they had a dedicated server, there's no reason they couldn't put in a gating system to make sure the balance is upheld.

Now for the obligatory on-topic comment:

What if this MMO is something....

COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!?!?!!

Seriously, not one person I've seen has even mentioned that yet. Blizzard is perfectly capable of creating a new franchise and making it rock just as hard as the others. I think people sell them short anymore though, because Starcraft is 10 years old and Diablo's also quite aged. The only thing they've really kept up with for the last 5 years or so is WarCraft, so people only think of them as the company that made WoW. They're capable of much more than that. They set all the trends that everybody else has followed in the RTS and MMO genres a long time ago. But if you had a game bringing in 50 trillion dollars a month, you'd probably focus on it too. That's the other thing: Because of WoW, Blizzard can support completely ASTRONOMICAL development costs. The sky is literally the limit for whatever they decide to do, and as far as I'm concerned, if it's as good as WoW, I'm already happy.

[Shadow Wolf]

One more thing: Has the picture on the right hand side of Blizzard's job listings page always been a Terran Wraith? Just wondering. Subtle hints, perhaps?

[i <3 robots]

Actually, it's much more 50/50 than most people think. Of course noody but Blizzard has the actual stats, but they will shuffle people around on servers to maintain balance by offerring them free character transfers, etc. It's pretty balanced. What changes it is the number of Alliance and Horde actually logged in to a server, which even Blizzard has no control over. Also, if they had a dedicated server, there's no reason they couldn't put in a gating system to make sure the balance is upheld.

http://www.warcraftrealms.com/census.php?serverid=-1&factionid=-1&minlevel=10&maxlevel=70&servertypeid=-1
I don't want to turn this into a WoW thread so I'll just post this nice link so you can see how outnumbered Horde is.

[Shadow Wolf]

I stand corrected. I can't refuse hard numbers. It's still only from people using the UI mod, but more than enough to be a representative sample. Still, it seems to kind of depend on the server. I checked the two I play on: Stormreaver is 66% alliance, 34% horde, Ravendare is 33% alliance, 67% horde. But overall, not (nearly) as balanced as Blizzard claims either way, so I take it back.

[zircon]

WoW already took most elements of what a Diablo MMO would have, such as the skill tree concept. I'm skeptical, I think they are just going to do a Diablo 3 title. An SC MMO is possible but I'm not sure why they would go that route given the groundbreaking success of SC as an RTS.

[lazygecko]

Most post-BC servers are dominated by Horde thanks to their silly little elves.

[Shadow Wolf]

Most post-BC servers are dominated by Horde thanks to their silly little elves.

True that. I don't have a really active Horde character yet, but it seems to me that Horde players in general tend to be better at actually playing the game. I don't know if that's because people tend to play Horde characters after they've cut their teeth on something else or what. But when I play battlegrounds on Stormreaver, which are more or less completely balanced as far as number of players per side, there's about a 1 in 15 chance of the Alliance winning. Group strategies among Horde seem to be followed better. Tell a group of Alliance what to do and you get 15 n00bs telling you to go screw yourself.

[Bigfoot]

The next MMO is going to be StarCraft, says sources.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=163207

[CE]

Fuck Blizzard, NO MORE MMOs! Stop it!

[anthonium]

What's next? World of Diablo?

[TaVeRnErO_RuDd]

Fuck Blizzard, NO MORE MMOs! Stop it!

OK! WE GET IT! YOU DON'T LIKE MMOS! do you feel the need to say that in every thread about em?

[CE]

OK! WE GET IT! YOU DON'T LIKE MMOS! do you feel the need to say that in every thread about em?

Well if it's about Blizzard's MMOs, uh... yeah!

/r/ golden age of rts

[Bigfoot]

OK! WE GET IT! YOU DON'T LIKE MMOS! do you feel the need to say that in every thread about em?

No, I agree with CE. I mean, so is Blizzard going to turn all of their games into MMOs instead of making sequels?

They love the money they're getting from WoW subscriptions, so why not make another MMO, right? They'll probably have some package deal thing where you get $5 off your subscription fee if you have both WoW and a Starcraft account activated.

[Razumen]

If this is true I'll be very disappointed. Seriously, Blizzard has been yanking its fans around with all this spin-off BS.

[lazygecko]

It makes more sense that they'd make an MMO. Since the late 90s they gradually shifted more and more towards being a dedicated RPG developer. Many of the original Starcraft developers have left Blizzard by now, and Warcraft 3 barely deserves to be labeled an RTS, and just look what they did with the orc campaign in TFT. I don't think they have the capacity to deliver in that department anymore.

[Patrick Burns]

MMO and RTS aren't mutually exclusive descriptors, imo.

Just because cvg added the line, "in the style of wow," that doesn't necessarily mean that they received that info from their source(s). That could be something the dude who wrote the article added.

[Imagist]

MMO and RTS aren't mutually exclusive descriptors, imo.

Just because cvg added the line, "in the style of wow," that doesn't necessarily mean that they received that info from their source(s). That could be something the dude who wrote the article added.

That's what I'm thinking. If the MMO is StarCraft, then the "next-gen" aspect of it might be an incorporation of RTS elements. Who knows what kind of genre hybrid they might be working at?

[eppy]

Not true check http://mmorpg.qj.net/All-Blizzard-Franchises-will-Become-MMOGs-/pg/49/aid/55958
yay 300th post

[Upthorn]

Not true check http://mmorpg.qj.net/All-Blizzard-Franchises-will-Become-MMOGs-/pg/49/aid/55958
yay 300th post

I hate to tell you, but when blizzard says something in June of 2006, that may not still be applicable in April of 2007.

[Dunnowhathuh]

To be brutally honest, I'm sick of MMO's and the prospect of a Starcraft MMO just annoys me to bits. Just too much damn time has to be dedicated to get anywhere in those games, some of us actually have other stuff to do through the week. Not everyone has gone gaga over MMO's, Blizzard (thank goodness some of you agree with me). If the new game is going to be Starcraft (or anything else for that matter), god I hope it's a pure non MMO RTS, hell, I'll settle with your standard single player first person shooter if I have to.

That being said, I'm guessing there are a tonne of people out there who are pissing their pants for a Starcraft MMO.

[Eulogic]

This new Starcraft is just gonna be Warcraft in space!

[Shadow Wolf]

World of StarCraft: The clinically proven patch designed to help you quite World of WarCraft! Available at your local pharmacy, or from Bob the one eyed crack dealer over on St. James Avenue.

[Shonen Samurai]

Or you could not trust unofficial sources and wait to see what actual Blizzard reps say

Just, you know, throwing that out there

[suzumebachi]

Why the hell is everyone automatically assuming it's an MMORPG? It's not even official they're making a StarCraft MMO yet, and even if they are, how do you know it's gonna be an RPG? MMORTS, anyone?

[Bigfoot]

Because usually when people see MMO, that's the first thing they think of.

[HideousBeing]

If they made a SC MMO, would they call World of StarCraft? Seems inappropriate, because SC spans many planets, solar systems, and galaxies. Maybe Galaxy of StarCraft? My guess would really be StarCraft Galaxies. Of course, I don't want this. Give me SC2.

[Bigfoot]

If they made a SC MMO, would they call World of StarCraft? Seems inappropriate, because SC spans many planets, solar systems, and galaxies. Maybe Galaxy of StarCraft? My guess would really be StarCraft Galaxies. Of course, I don't want this. Give me SC2.

Yeah, it'd probably be something like that, or something corny like Universe of Starcraft.

[Imagist]

Why the hell is everyone automatically assuming it's an MMORPG? It's not even official they're making a StarCraft MMO yet, and even if they are, how do you know it's gonna be an RPG? MMORTS, anyone?

I said this like forever ago. Also, if they were going to go with a cheap, formulaic naming scheme, it would probably be Worlds of Starcraft.

[NotSoSuperMario]

MMORTS 4tmfw.

real words go here so I don't make a post consisting entirely of acronyms like a bitch.

[zircon]

How the hell would an MMORTS work? If it were a persistant, ongoing world, players could spend months building armies + fortresses (or whatever) while new players get instantly obliterated and have no chance of obtaining new resources. Doesn't seem realistic.

[The Author]

How the hell would an MMORTS work? If it were a persistant, ongoing world, players could spend months building armies + fortresses (or whatever) while new players get instantly obliterated and have no chance of obtaining new resources. Doesn't seem realistic.

Not really. An objective based MMORTS could work in a smaller specialized team approach.

Lets say you have an infiltration commander, an artillery commander, a medic commander, a resource gatherer commander and such kinda like a class in an MMORPG. You could have training objectives in a "simulator" something like normal leveling areas in MMORPGs. Based on your abilities (think something like command points based on your level) you get a default unit configuration. These training missions get you more unit purchasing power (the availability being dependant on your faction's current standings in the mission areas). Once you want to get into real action you team up with people and you either take on "objective missions," (PVE objectives that add more resources to your faction) and you would have "conflict missions" (PVP objectives kinda like battlegrounds where you gain footing on better resource spots, increasing your standing, thus lowering your costs for recruiting units.)

The higher you are, the better units you can purchase, the better reputation you are the cheaper they are, and the more resources your faction has, the easier it is topurchase units.

[Citris]

Not really. An objective based MMORTS could work in a smaller specialized team approach.

Lets say you have an infiltration commander, an artillery commander, a medic commander, a resource gatherer commander and such kinda like a class in an MMORPG. You could have training objectives in a "simulator" something like normal leveling areas in MMORPGs. Based on your abilities (think something like command points based on your level) you get a default unit configuration. These training missions get you more unit purchasing power (the availability being dependant on your faction's current standings in the mission areas). Once you want to get into real action you team up with people and you either take on "objective missions," (PVE objectives that add more resources to your faction) and you would have "conflict missions" (PVP objectives kinda like battlegrounds where you gain footing on better resource spots, increasing your standing, thus lowering your costs for recruiting units.)

The higher you are, the better units you can purchase, the better reputation you are the cheaper they are, and the more resources your faction has, the easier it is topurchase units.

It could be a persistent world if you made it so people didn't create their own factions like clans, you just joined existing ones. Kind of like a MMO Risk.

The player set up could be like real military (Supreme Commander all the way down to grunt soldier). The gameplay could be like...Well hell, if anyone has read Ender's Game, it could be an online version of the invasion "simulator". And to keep factions from completely locking down an entire map, it could reset every few months or so, depending on the scale of the game. If it's a huge world sized map, it could reset once a year. The players would still keep their records, the borders just get redrawn to the starting point. The point, obviously, is to take over the world.

It would definitely make for an interesting game. People would actually have to follow orders, and those orders would have to be good. VOIP would probably be a must, again working somewhat like Ender's game. Click on one icon to talk to the rank above you, another to others of your rank, and another to the rank just below you.

[Upthorn]

Or you could not trust unofficial sources and wait to see what actual Blizzard reps say
Just, you know, throwing that out there
Because the blizzard.com webpage listing current employment opportunities (http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/) isn't official enough, I guess..

Why the hell is everyone automatically assuming it's an MMORPG? It's not even official they're making a StarCraft MMO yet, and even if they are, how do you know it's gonna be an RPG? MMORTS, anyone?
This is Blizzard we're talking about. At this point expecting Blizzard to make a game that's not an MMORPG is like expecting Sega to make a good Sonic game.
It's not motherfucking happening.

[Bahamut]

What? Blizzard already has stated that their next game isn't going to be an MMORPG.

[Upthorn]

What? Blizzard already has stated that their next game isn't going to be an MMORPG.
Where and when?
If you're referring to Eppy's link (which is about 8 months old), all they said in that was that they had no plans for a new MMO at that time. They did not say they had plans to release anything else before making a new MMO. Also, 8 months have passed in which those plans could have changed. Also, the Penny Arcade guys, who are usually pretty good at keeping their facts straight are taking it for a given that blizzard's new thing is going to be an MMORPG.

[Bahamut]

Where and when?
If you're referring to Eppy's link (which is about 8 months old), all they said in that was that they had no plans for a new MMO at that time. They did not say they had plans to release anything else before making a new MMO. Also, 8 months have passed in which those plans could have changed. Also, the Penny Arcade guys, who are usually pretty good at keeping their facts straight are taking it for a given that blizzard's new thing is going to be an MMORPG.

Well, I have had several sources confirm to me several of Blizzard's current projects, and I highly doubt any of them will be an MMO.

[Imagist]

Also, 8 months have passed in which those plans could have changed. Also, the Penny Arcade guys, who are usually pretty good at keeping their facts straight are taking it for a given that blizzard's new thing is going to be an MMORPG.

...How are your critical reading skills? Tycho approached it as a rumor, and said nothing more than it would make sense given how successful WoW has been. Also, just as a note, at no point does he refer to the rumored title as an "MMORPG," just an "MMO." There is still no trustworthy confirmation about anything other than the fact that Blizzard is looking for people to work on a new MMO. Who even knows what the time frame on it is? If they're still looking for important leadership positions development-side, it's clearly not far out of initial planning.

[Shadow Wolf]

Hey, I just had this crazy-ass idea! How about we all wait 9 FUCKING DAYS and we'll ALL know what Blizzard is doing! I know, i know. It's insane, right? But that's why it'll work!

[kupernikus]

Hey, I just had this crazy-ass idea! How about we all wait 9 FUCKING DAYS and we'll ALL know what Blizzard is doing! I know, i know. It's insane, right? But that's why it'll work!

SSSSHHHHHHH! No logic on a webforum.

[The Author]

I kinda wish my MMORTS idea would get fleshed out more... it almost seemed possible and interesting.

Oh well, come on Diablo 3.

[Miletus]

I kinda wish my MMORTS idea would get fleshed out more... it almost seemed possible and interesting.

I can't wait for dual quad-core processors to be commonplace either.

[Shonen Samurai]

Because the blizzard.com webpage listing current employment opportunities (http://www.blizzard.com/jobopp/) isn't official enough, I guess..


This is Blizzard we're talking about. At this point expecting Blizzard to make a game that's not an MMORPG is like expecting Sega to make a good Sonic game.
It's not motherfucking happening.

Yes, we're all aware that they're hiring for an MMO. Hiring to start making one. Not almost done with one and ready to announce one (or more). Trust me, just wait on this one.

[zircon]

It could be a persistent world if you made it so people didn't create their own factions like clans, you just joined existing ones. Kind of like a MMO Risk.

The player set up could be like real military (Supreme Commander all the way down to grunt soldier). The gameplay could be like...Well hell, if anyone has read Ender's Game, it could be an online version of the invasion "simulator". And to keep factions from completely locking down an entire map, it could reset every few months or so, depending on the scale of the game. If it's a huge world sized map, it could reset once a year. The players would still keep their records, the borders just get redrawn to the starting point. The point, obviously, is to take over the world.

It would definitely make for an interesting game. People would actually have to follow orders, and those orders would have to be good. VOIP would probably be a must, again working somewhat like Ender's game. Click on one icon to talk to the rank above you, another to others of your rank, and another to the rank just below you.

No one likes games where you just follow orders, for one thing. Another thing is that, again, you can't have a persistent RTS world that runs anything like any current RTS because it would be WAY too easy even after a matter of hours for one person, clan, faction, whatever to build up immense power and crush new people instantly.

[zircon]

Ok guys I just asked my friend, whose uncle works at Blizzard. It's a Warcraft FPS in the style of Daggerfall.

[lazygecko]

Actually, it's a Lost Vikings dating sim.

[Shonen Samurai]

Rock N' Roll Racing MMO

[Ramaniscence]

Ok guys I just asked my friend, whose uncle works at Blizzard. It's a Warcraft FPS in the style of Daggerfall.

Really? Because I heard from a reliable source that it was actually going to be WarCraft: Rogue.

[thomasdaly]

can i get pokemon music movie music bgm and remixes i want it all help can i get it on oc remix help please

[GreenMaster8]

I was reading about this stuff just the other day. Here is what I read (and what seems interesting about the possibility of a Starcraft 2):

Apparently rumor has it there will be a 4th race. I saw this video on google, and the extra character in there looked like a protoss zealot, except with some extra arms with claws coming out, which matched up with the storyline of the secret Zeratul mission in which you uncover the protoss-zerg hybrid. Maybe the new race is prozerg or zertoss; or maybe it's something new all together--if, in fact, there is a new race, or a Starcraft 2 for that matter. The site I was reading this on said that there was a leak from Blizzard, and it had something to do with Korea.



As for Diablo 3, I was reading about the MMO possibilities. That there are two sides: Angels and Demons, with the humans being split between each side. If you consider how the game ended, they could easily do an MMO take on the storyline. The prime evils may be destroyed, but without the world stone to keep the forces of hell at bay, there could be a never-ending war between the forces of good and evil for the control of the world. If you have ever heard the Diablo Sin War Remix, you might recall a few things in the lyrics/story that give light to the fact that humans would ally with either side. And who knows, maybe there will be something to do with the Horadrim, although Deckard Cain is supposed to be the last. There are a lot of options with Diablo, too.



Basically, I say the chances for either are very high. Although I'd love to see a Diablo MMO game, I would be just as happy to see Starcraft 2 finally make it to the shelves.

[Azure Prower]

Blizzard dashed my starcraft hopes with Ghost :(

[CE]

Why the hell would you want to play a Starcraft MMO when there's a 40K one coming out. Heck, Starcraft was what Blizzard made when Games Workshop pulled the deal of making a 40K RTS with them! Same goes for Warcraft, it's Warhammer.

So yeah, get 40K instead, xeno scum.

For the emperor.

[Shonen Samurai]

Apparently rumor has it there will be a 4th race. I saw this video on google, and the extra character in there looked like a protoss zealot, except with some extra arms with claws coming out, which matched up with the storyline of the secret Zeratul mission in which you uncover the protoss-zerg hybrid. Maybe the new race is prozerg or zertoss; or maybe it's something new all together--if, in fact, there is a new race, or a Starcraft 2 for that matter. The site I was reading this on said that there was a leak from Blizzard, and it had something to do with Korea.


That's a fan project video. It's not Blizz material.

[Raenok]

Why the hell would you want to play a Starcraft MMO when there's a 40K one coming out. Heck, Starcraft was what Blizzard made when Games Workshop pulled the deal of making a 40K RTS with them! Same goes for Warcraft, it's Warhammer.

So yeah, get 40K instead, xeno scum.

For the emperor.

I seriously dislike people like you.

This is Blizzard, NOT Games Workshop.

[The Author]

So, has Warhammer Online been out for a while now?

Seems that you hear a lot about it but it still is not out, therefore it cannot be compared to WoW which has been out for about 3 years.

[Eulogic]

I have it from a reliable source that Warhammer is for losers who will never get laid. Starcraft, on the other hand, is for winners who do nothing but get laid. While not playing Starcraft, that is.

As for Warcraft being based upon Warhammer, I can think of a far more popular literary source with elves, dwarves, and orcs that Warhammer and Warcraft both likely derived their setting from.

[GreenMaster8]

That's a fan project video. It's not Blizz material.

Gotcha. I didn't know either way. But it was neat to think of the possibility. Besides, I figured it wouldn't be what Starcraft 2 was like--that seemed a little too close to the original. But aside from that video, I DID hear something about a 4th race. Kinda funny how that all seems to flow together though, huh?

[SetzerGabbiani]

if Starcraft were to become an MMO Id have to say a large portion of Korea would die in front of their screens to starvation...

QFT

I LOL'd...

Really Hard.

[RepressedChaos]

You'd have to fight Diablo's ghost in Diablo 3. Duh.




(Note: I've never beaten D2, I don't know how it ends)

...SACRELIG!!!!

[Lord.Roderick.i]

I read about 2 weeks ago on IGN PC that the next gen MMO from Blizzard was NOT going to be Warcraft related, so that leaves SC and Diablo, but WoW (from what i hear) is a lot like Diablo (I don't really know because I've never played any Diablo game... no hate plz)
So hopefully It'll be SCU (StarCraft Universe, I hope that will be the MMO name :P )

[Imagist]

I read about 2 weeks ago on IGN PC that the next gen MMO from Blizzard was NOT going to be Warcraft related, so that leaves SC and Diablo

Or, you know, something for the next generation and--God forbid--new.

[CE]

I have it from a reliable source that Warhammer is for losers who will never get laid. Starcraft, on the other hand, is for winners who do nothing but get laid. While not playing Starcraft, that is.

As for Warcraft being based upon Warhammer, I can think of a far more popular literary source with elves, dwarves, and orcs that Warhammer and Warcraft both likely derived their setting from.

Don't you have some Magic playing to do, xeno scum?

I dislike Warhammer Fantasy as much as I dislike WoW. World-wise, that is. "Hay lets use the same overrated setting over and over and over and over and over again guys!". 40K on the other hand is just superior to Starcraft in every way possible. I'm talking about Dawn of War and Starcraft of course, not the tabletop and Starcraft.

It's the setting that's so damn good. Shove that tired carcass of LOTR-fantasy setting in space and BOOM, it's fresh again. Plus religious fanaticism. Ah, to be a Space Marine in the year 40,000...

I seriously dislike people like you.

This is Blizzard, NOT Games Workshop.


What the hell, this didn't make sense.

[TaVeRnErO_RuDd]

what are you trying to do? create flame wars?

i've never even heard oof your warhammer games until recently and i've been playing blizzard games all my life!

so take your blizz hate somewhere else

[Eulogic]

Shove that tired carcass of LOTR-fantasy setting in space

Starcraft's setting isn't remotely LotR in space.

[Effector]

i've never even heard oof your warhammer games until recently and i've been playing blizzard games all my life!

You make me laugh. Here's to hoping you are joking.

Protip: Games Workshop has been around since 1975 and single-handedly revolutionized tabletop gaming, from which Starcraft and the entire RTS genre is derived. Sorry, no beans.

Starcraft's setting isn't remotely LotR in space.

You absolutely missed the point. CE was talking about the transition of Warhammer (fantasy, LotR-ish) to Warhammer 40k.

[Bahamut]

You make me laugh. Here's to hoping you are joking.

Protip: Games Workshop has been around since 1975 and single-handedly revolutionized tabletop gaming, from which Starcraft and the entire RTS genre is derived. Sorry, no beans.]


The RTS genre came from Sega.

[The Author]

Didn't Warhammer come from DnD players?

[Effector]

I wouldn't really say that, RD. Warhammer's game design drew from other tabletop strategy wargames at the time, but got its aesthetic from classic fantasy mainstays not necessarily from the gaming community - hence all the talk about LotR.

EDIT: Bahamut, if we want to argue origins of RTS games, I think the common base for most modern RTS games is Dune II by Westwood. It wasn't the first, but really, it's not that much different from what we're still seeing today. I was saying that the RTS genre (Starcraft included) owes a lot to the pioneers of tabletop wargames - they really created a foundation that was moved to a digital format on computers, and was adapted for real-time games later on. Just want props given where props are due.

[Eulogic]

You absolutely missed the point. CE was talking about the transition of Warhammer (fantasy, LotR-ish) to Warhammer 40k.

He said that Warhammer 40k shoved the LotR setting into space. Earlier he said that Starcraft ripped its setting off from Warhammer 40k. Therefore, my statement that Starcraft is in no way LotR in space is relevant and a refutation of his point that its setting is a ripoff of Warhammer 40k's.

[TaVeRnErO_RuDd]

i had heard of warhammer...seen some pics too..but never looked into it much...i just saw it was good looking and expensive and moved on to mage knight which is only SLIGHTLY less expensive

[Azure Prower]

Just want a Starcraft game damit. It's been too loooong!

[Shonen Samurai]

just fyi:

www.blizzard.com

and

www.starcraft2.com

[Eulogic]

starcraft2.com has been registered since before they announced SC: Ghost.

[Shonen Samurai]

Everyone knows more about upcoming Blizz titles than me, apparently.

[lazygecko]

Seeing as the first 2 Warcrafts are highlighted and the others aren't, I'm guessing there might be some sort of remake in the works.

[Shonen Samurai]

Seeing as the first 2 Warcrafts are highlighted and the others aren't, I'm guessing there might be some sort of remake in the works.

You'll note that the name of the image is day1.jpg. The 19th--Starcraft Invitational--is 6 days from now, with 5 games in between and then a question mark.

[CE]

Oh man, the "It's not an MMO" bandwagon is growing!

I don't know what to think. On one hand, Koreans love the original Starcraft, which is an RTS. On the other, they also churn out MMO's, so I can assume they enjoy the latter as well. Would a MMO Starcraft cause a crack in the potential buyers userbase, dividing the RTS players from the Starcraft fans, or would it join the two in epic money?

The main reason it shouldn't be an MMO, however, is the fact that it could cut into the WoW userbase. Plus Blizzard themselves aren't bad developers, so they ought to know there are a ton of people out there that both enjoyed the previous games (me) and dislike MMO's (me again) and that a non MMO Starcraft would become the perfect complement to WoW: one attracts everyone but MMOers, the other attracts the rest.

[Ramaniscence]

The answer? SC2:MMORTS

[Hyperion5182]

The answer? SC2:MMORTS

AKA the game that makes eve completely obsolete.

Eve ship combat on air and space MMO starcraft on the ground of planets. This is the worst case scenario. This would put WoW to shame if they really took the time to develop it.

[The Author]

AKA the game that makes eve completely obsolete.

Eve ship combat on air and space MMO starcraft on the ground of planets. This is the worst case scenario. This would put WoW to shame if they really took the time to develop it.
Not really.

They need to start working on WoW's replacement now if they want to replace it when WoW falls.

[CE]

AKA the game that makes eve completely obsolete.

Eve ship combat on air and space MMO starcraft on the ground of planets. This is the worst case scenario. This would put WoW to shame if they really took the time to develop it.


I don't see the RTS part here. Make the ship combat like an RTS and you got it.

[Bigfoot]

just fyi:

www.blizzard.com

and

www.starcraft2.com

That doesn't mean anything.

www.mother3.com

[HideousBeing]

they're counting down the days, adding the image for each game listed there each day. we have only to wait to see this mystery release.

[Shadow Wolf]

That doesn't mean anything.


That's a pretty fucked up way to mess with people if it isn't Starcraft 2.

[Emura]

That's a pretty fucked up way to mess with people if it isn't Starcraft 2.

They've had that domain registered for years. It won't mean anything until there's actually a website there.

[Bigfoot]

Yeah, which is why I posted the Mother 3 link. Notice how it re-directs you to NOAs website? Everyone knows we're never going to get it.

[i <3 robots]

Starcraft: SCV Dungeon Battle Adventure Online

COMING SOON!

[Gamelore]

What Blizzard game could I give a shit about... Lost Vikings Online, maybe.

Warcraft is dead to me since Warcraft II. Starcraft sucked. Diablo team is mostly gone.

Blizzard is the George Lucas of gaming. Starcraft, Warcraft III, and Wo... (barf, I won't even call it Warcraft) raped my childhood. :(

[Imagist]

What Blizzard game could I give a shit about... Lost Vikings Online, maybe.

Warcraft is dead to me since Warcraft II. Starcraft sucked. Diablo team is mostly gone.

Blizzard is the George Lucas of gaming. Starcraft, Warcraft III, and Wo... (barf, I won't even call it Warcraft) raped my childhood. :(

You are posting in this thread because...?

I mean, if you're going to troll, at least concoct half-assed, only semi-ignorant rationalizations for your retarded dismissals of pretty thoroughly and justifiably acclaimed games like Injin would.

[The Author]

What Blizzard game could I give a shit about... Lost Vikings Online, maybe.

Warcraft is dead to me since Warcraft II. Starcraft sucked. Diablo team is mostly gone.

Blizzard is the George Lucas of gaming. Starcraft, Warcraft III, and Wo... (barf, I won't even call it Warcraft) raped my childhood. :(

So...has anyone claimed this lost baby?

He dosen't have a pacifier and his crying is grating.

[Hyperion5182]

I don't see the RTS part here. Make the ship combat like an RTS and you got it.

Eve ship combat is basically massive scale RTS except instead of one mind you got everyone working together. You can micromanage and pilot your own ship or if you are the leader of a decent size alliance be able to command a fleet of ships and use them over many ways depending on where you are in the game it is very much like an RTS a constant interactive RTS where the AI is as deadly as the human mind. For it is the human mind.

[Raenok]

So...has anyone claimed this lost baby?

He dosen't have a pacifier and his crying is grating.

Wait until he starts claiming that Warhammer: Age of Reckoning will utterly "destroy" World of Warcraft.

THEN we came flame him with logic.

[Shadow Wolf]

Wow. That's some of the crappiest trolling I've ever seen. It's not supposed to be blatant like that, you shitty little troll you.

[The Author]

I've had heartburn that was worse than those flames.

[CE]

Eve ship combat is basically massive scale RTS except instead of one mind you got everyone working together. You can micromanage and pilot your own ship or if you are the leader of a decent size alliance be able to command a fleet of ships and use them over many ways depending on where you are in the game it is very much like an RTS a constant interactive RTS where the AI is as deadly as the human mind. For it is the human mind.

By that definition, WoW's 6000000000-player instances are RTSs too.

[The Author]

By that definition, WoW's 6000000000-player instances are RTSs too.

Hmmm...

Are you using the penis number conversion?

Because 40 (a number which is for older raid instances, now the max is 25) is a lot smaller than 6000000000.


But I guess, since you are bashing, logic is not important. Go on, you uneducated geek, continue your bashing. Ignorance and stupidity really beats respect. And to show I understand your point of view, I will show no respect for you.

[Shadow Wolf]

Oh SNAP! RD's pullin' out all the stops! F'real.

[TaVeRnErO_RuDd]

Hmmm...

Are you using the penis number conversion?

Because 40 (a number which is for older raid instances, now the max is 25) is a lot smaller than 6000000000.


But I guess, since you are bashing, logic is not important. Go on, you uneducated geek, continue your bashing. Ignorance and stupidity really beats respect. And to show I understand your point of view, I will show no respect for you.

finnaly!
seriously CE...don't bash on other people's game of choice..it makes you look like a dirty forum troll

[The Author]

He probably likes guild wars.

A game where you can't leave a city without being in a group of 5.

[The Mutericator]

This just in:

The big news is that they're releasing Lost Vikings on the Virtual Console. I'm not joking, I swear.

[Shadow Wolf]

Link or fail.

[CE]

Hmmm...

Are you using the penis number conversion?

Because 40 (a number which is for older raid instances, now the max is 25) is a lot smaller than 6000000000.


But I guess, since you are bashing, logic is not important. Go on, you uneducated geek, continue your bashing. Ignorance and stupidity really beats respect. And to show I understand your point of view, I will show no respect for you.

Oh go whine somewhere else you cripple. Can't you even detect sarcasm?

And it's "finally" rudd.

Oh and yeah, I consider Guild Wars substancially better then WoW. It's still crappy, but it's better then WoW. And in case you weren't being sarcastic (the concept seems to confuse you) if you can't leave a city without being in a group of 5 in Guild Wars, well, you pretty much suck.

[The Author]

Oh, already with the cripple comments?

Can't you get more imaginative? I mean, I was molested as a kid and I'm bisexual, why don't you work these aspects as well?

[Bigfoot]

Just stop.

[Shadow Wolf]

Damn, this thread is getting HAWT.

[lazygecko]

Ha ha, internet.

[suzumebachi]

melli17 ist ein typ!

[Leon K.]

If this makes you feel any better, heres a vid of me pwning face in WoW really quickly :D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=f2b1D5w82yU

[CE]

lol wow

hey, it's rick!

all set for starcraft 2

[TheRedBob]

My friends and I are staying up and maintaining non-stop chat-contact with one another until the new Blizz game gets announced.

I'm got sick of WoW and quit, so it's about time for some SC2.

[Shonen Samurai]

4.45 hours to go until it's unveiled!

[Bahamut]

Word has it they're showing a "Medusa Demo" - heavy speculation is saying Starcraft 2, although it could be Diablo 3 too.

[Shadow Wolf]

It's World of Diablocraft! Satan and Sarah Kerrigan team up to conquer past, present, and future! [/lies]

[Bigfoot]

Blizzard doesn't know how much I'd love them if they brought back Diablo. Diablo 3, hell even a Diablo 2 remake with today's graphics would be soooooooo awesome.

[Evilhead]

I dunno, I think Diablo 2's graphics are fantastic as is. Usually you are too busy blasting through the game, but if you take the time to look around the world is incredibly detailed.

Anyway, anything Diablo related would make me extremely happy, but I have a feeling Blizzard won't release something that would compete directly with WoW, so a Diablo MMORPG type game might be too much to ask for. Starcraft 2 does seem like a big possibility.

[Bigfoot]

Diablo anything could be bad though. I mean, if they made it an MMO, it'd have a lot slower gameplay like killing 1 monster at a time. I miss being my WW Barb and just blasting through like 20 monsters at the same time.

[AMT]

I'd love a Wii or DS Starcraft / Blizzard RTS. It'll probably be a Starcraft MMO though....

[Evilhead]

Diablo anything could be bad though. I mean, if they made it an MMO, it'd have a lot slower gameplay like killing 1 monster at a time. I miss being my WW Barb and just blasting through like 20 monsters at the same time.

If it's Diablo I'm sure they wouldn't abandon the gameplay that made the series so popular, or at least I hope not. They must know their own game franchise well enough.

[Arek the Absolute]

Ok, so wow's site is down. Think they are putting up the announcement?
Nevermind, it is back up.
So what the hell is it?

[ChocoHearts]

If I had the option to tell Blizzard exactly what to make, and trust them to do it right, I'd want a StarCraft 2 worthy of the name. By worthy, I mean:
1) Heroes are NOT the center of the game - WC3 was essentially a party-based RPG with summoned monsters. Which I didn't appreciate.
2) Gameplay mechanics that revolutionize the genre - even if you didn't like SC, it WAS pretty much the first RTS with unique sides (contrast Age of Empires, Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds, SW: Empire at War, and WarCraft 2). Mix it up, take a chance, make the leap!
3) NOT MMO. Thanks, but if Blizzard's making it, you can be sure they're gonna charge for it, and I'd rather have $15 worth of Dr Pepper than a month's worth of playing a game I already bought. Give us (free) online options, sure, but don't FORCE us to play online.

Of course, as my pseudo-HTML shows, this is all my opinion. ;)

[Bahamut]

3:00 - FMV sequence in a spaceship - looks Terran - zooming in on a metal door - door opening - reveals a guy with a cigar in chains - prisoner - door shuts behind him - there's so much bass the room is shaking - guy steps into some kind of metallic devicce - legs are strapped in - guy rising toward ceiling - Korean text on screen got people very excited - another part of the machine is dropping metal arms on him - machine whirring - applying armor to his torso - extremly detailed visuals here - now guy is strapping on gloves - armor is molding together - seems like a Terran marine - rockets turn on - zerg now onscreen - Marine delivers a line - StarCraft 2 officially announced.

[Arek the Absolute]

3:00 - FMV sequence in a spaceship - looks Terran - zooming in on a metal door - door opening - reveals a guy with a cigar in chains - prisoner - door shuts behind him - there's so much bass the room is shaking - guy steps into some kind of metallic devicce - legs are strapped in - guy rising toward ceiling - Korean text on screen got people very excited - another part of the machine is dropping metal arms on him - machine whirring - applying armor to his torso - extremly detailed visuals here - now guy is strapping on gloves - armor is molding together - seems like a Terran marine - rockets turn on - zerg now onscreen - Marine delivers a line - StarCraft 2 officially announced.

Source : http://pc.ign.com/articles/788/788627p1.html

[Shadow Wolf]

Fuck Yes Lord God Hallelujah!

[RedFusion]

At LAST it's official!

It just made too much sense that Starcraft 2 had to be released, with all their job-openings for "3D map makers" etc., and also the fact that the annoucement was made in Korea.

But, oh hell, this is great, great news. Can't wait until all the jaw-dropping salivating official websites and trailers are all completely released. I guess it was a bit anticlimactic with just a press-release to satiate our hunger for news, but then again, considering it was announced approximately 13 minutes ago, I guess I should be a little bit more patient.

Eagerly awaits developments on the sequel to one of the most loved games from the last decade.

[Yoshi3gg]

OH this makes me so happy.

Must see screens and videos.