OCR00848 - Mega Man 2 'Metal Man Goes Clubbing'

[Disco Dan]

Mega Man 2 'Metalman Goes Clubbing'

Well djp did a really good job of summing this up using really big words, and since it's my tune I'm going to abstain from saying anything about this just now. However, if you ARE used to my past tunes that involve a wider variety of instruments, this is a bit difference as it stays PRETTY close to a straight trance feel instead of my usual "mixed" stylings. Enjoy, or don't. Your call.

DC

[Infernal Monkey]

Welp, I've never heard the original tune.. But it has a Megaman feel to it. I like this alot, in fact.. I've had it on loop for quite a while now. Good work man.

[Sherv]

YES! YES! YES!!! Finally, a nice and long rendition of the almighty Metal Man theme!! DJ Pretzel mentions the sound hybridization at 1:26, and I really enjoy how Disco Dan did this, it complements the repetitious theme in the background quite well. Thank you so much for bestowing this gem upon us!

[Joe Redifer]

I really like this. It is techno/trance done well, an you don't hear it done well too tremendously often. Good job!

This would make excellent racing game music. In fact, after I am finished typing this missive, I am going to load the tune onto my Xbox's hard drive so I can listen to it while I play MotoGP. Even though it is Megaman 2, it fits perfectly with that game as well. Keep it up!

[Shhteve]

Wow, this is kind of stuff I really like to see more on OCR, especially Metal Man. He was my favorite robot in the entire series for some reason, his level is fun. Anyway, very well done Dan, I really dig the progressive techno/trance/dance stuff.

[Ryan8bit]

Why is it that lead dance synths always seem off-key to me? Especially here. Is that like the trend or something?

Besides that, I like the arrangement. The samples are all very good. And of course, if you're making trance it is going to be repetitive, (so sue me if I don't like too much repetition). At least, I like repetition if it leads to somewhere.

[Protricity]

There are only a few trance songs I will ever like because most of them are extremely repetitive and are totally carried by some super-uber-professional quality drumloop/drumset. However, Discodan always, ALWAYS expands on the melody. This is much more than typical generic trance. I love the saw wave and what was done with the strings. Good trance-style songs dont come around too often, so pick this one up. No wait, pick all his songs up, duh.

[EtherealXero]

W00t! I dig it a lot. Dan did a great job with this! Can't really say anything else but download it. Download it NOW! :D

-EX

[The Primoris]

Normally I dislike anything that even slightly resembles trance music, though this mix is certainly an exception.
The arrangement in this piece is fantastic, and the repetition is more than acceptable because there's so many minute alterations in the background, many of which only become noticeable during repeated listens.
At about 2:58, it becomes quite apparent that this is the work of DiscoDan, as he uses an effect very similar to the one used throughout his SnakeManGetDown mix. This is indeed a mix of great quality.

[Wintermute]

Disco Dan VS. AE, who would win?


...

My response: Don't fight. Collaborate.

[Krav]

Download this. Now. It owns all who hear it, it owns all who have heard it, and it will own yew. This is one of the coolest remixes I've ever heard. I like it even better than AE's metalman remix (mainly because this one is good the whole way through, as opposed to AE's where it kicked total ass about until 1:30. ~_~;;)

Anyways, Metalman was my favorite megaman song (except for snakeman, DOWNLOAD DISCO DAN'S SNAKEMAN REMIX, TOO!) and also my favorite level from my favorite NES megaman!

To sum it all up, this remix just PWNZ.

[Aimaina Hikari]

Bottom Line: A solid Mega Man mix that stays faithful to the original - think of it as a major upgrade to the original tune.

The Good: This ReMix does something that I highly respect - it captures the spirit of the game. That's not the only thing it does well, though - it's also very well sequenced and shows a significant degree of technical prowess.

The Bad: Nothing about this ReMix was "bad," but I would have liked to see more build-up and variations on the melody. That's just me, though - and I have to admit that Mega Man tunage is so good already that there really isn't all that much you can mess around with.

[Ebonyks]

Wow, quite a nice remix discodan. I've always been a big fan of your stuff, and this is no execption. Well recorded, versatatle, and just a overall great remix. I still have your flameman remix on my everyday listening list. :)

[MagFlare]

I have two points to make:

1.) This is classic DiscoDan.

2.) Classic DiscoDan is good.

If I have any more earth-shattering, philosophy-redefining points to make, I'll post them here after I've listened to "Metalman Goes Clubbing" a few more times.

[Disco Dan]

Why is it that lead dance synths always seem off-key to me? Especially here. Is that like the trend or something?

Actually that trance lead is standard in most of these trance songs and it breaks down like thus:

The trance lead is made up of 3 or more saw leads. The middle one is usually in tune, but the other two are usually detuned up and down from the middle one, so it's essentially three saw waves detuned from each other, so yes, it IS out of tune, but I think the idea is that with three different saw waves and one of them IN tune that they'll cancel each other out. Took me forever to get this to sound "stereotypical" though. But yeah, your ears aren't deceiving you, it IS out of tune, in BOTH directions. Anyway, hope that clears something up.

DC

[Viper=tFo=]

When I first came to this site back in February or March of this year, MegaMan 3 songs were the first ones I checked out. Out of all the many, many songs, discodan's were my favorites, so I was ecstatic to see a new song by him, and it didn't let me down. Classic. The one minor thing I didn't like was the repeated ending, it just didn't sound right.

[JTD121]

Isn't there a 6MB limit to how big a song can be? Just wondering...I'm listening to it now though...

mainva | aptigo | JTD out

[mDuo13]

This is a GREAT, GREAT song. It's similar to AE's rendition of the same theme, but this one has strings in the background, a less prominent drum beat, and is also more trance-like. While I admit to being a sucker for Trance, this is especially good trance. I can't really decide which is better, but I can definitely tell you this: GET THIS SONG.

[Physalis]

*joygasm*

[Ryan8bit]

Actually that trance lead is standard in most of these trance songs and it breaks down like thus:

The trance lead is made up of 3 or more saw leads. The middle one is usually in tune, but the other two are usually detuned up and down from the middle one, so it's essentially three saw waves detuned from each other, so yes, it IS out of tune, but I think the idea is that with three different saw waves and one of them IN tune that they'll cancel each other out. Took me forever to get this to sound "stereotypical" though. But yeah, your ears aren't deceiving you, it IS out of tune, in BOTH directions. Anyway, hope that clears something up.

I'm familiar with what detuning is, but the overall key here still sounded a bit off to me. Perhaps the higher parts of the detune needed to be louder? Mostly what I heard was the lower parts, I think.

Nevertheless, it is still pretty cool. I was just wondering about that.

[MegaMario2005]

Definetely a remix worth dancing to, makes me reminisce about how I used to play this game. Great sound and something you can dance to for a while considering the songs length is 5:21. It could lead to confusion with some of AE's remixes since you and AE both have done some techno remixes of Mega Man music. They also seem to follow the same pattern when the song is played. Keep it up Danny boy!

[chumble spuzz]

good mix, but the beginning could have used a little more originality; it sounds a lot like AEs mix, but then, it is also (a recreation of) the sound on the NES, so maybe im just a retard...
i do like the saw wave synth deal. you did a good job stereotyping. :roll: OverAll, i like. goot werk, Dan! now, if i could just DL the rest. bloody thing cut off at 4:21...

[the biz]

Yeah, did anybody else notice that this remix starts EXACTLY the same way as AE's remix? I actually prefer that one to this one, but this one is still very very good once it gets moving. I especially like the fadeout at the end....just the saw lead....

[Disco Dan]

but the beginning could have used a little more originality; it sounds a lot like AEs mix
Yeah, did anybody else notice that this remix starts EXACTLY the same way as AE's remix?


I don't know why I always feel the need to defend myself, but here goes anyway.

The date for creation on my file, metalman.mid is:

Friday, May 04, 2001 10:17:28 PM

The post date for AE's Metalman is:

2001-06-15 (I don't know when the file was actually created on his HD)


I had started this mix about a month before hearing AE's mix. And actually if the old forums were still around (which is what was around when this mix was posted) you'd see that I addressed this in my review, stating something to the effect of "weird, I've started a metalman mix that begins exactly the same way." Now, as a few of you know, I've recently been going back and updating my old mm3 and mm2 mixes with newer, cleaner, more 'professional' sounding samples, and so the metalman you hear on this site is (in regards to the notes used) the same metalman mix I wrote back then, but with better sounds.

So in all reality, the most probable case is (seeing as AE and I hadn't spoken up to that point, and I certainly wasn't on his "have this person review my WIP" list) that AE and I, after hearing the same original song, had the same idea for initial inspiration. Granted we took it, from that point on, in two very different directions, but the initial inspiration for that creepy solo saw effect was exactly the same.

And as for our styles as a whole, I'd have to say that AE and I differ significantly. AE plays with the melody much more than I do. He cuts his songs to a degree far above my beat-breaking calibre. He takes the song in directions that I wouldn't dare, and if you're looking for a standard break down of his songs, it's like this, (ith the exception of "With the Quickness"):

Intro, melody (maybe repeat), percussion breakdown (lots of beat splicing and dicing), return of melody and outro.

I'm more traditional with my methods of varying including layering and isolating parts, and sometimes soloing a part, but I generally don't do as much with a song as AE does. Anyway, hope that cleared things up.

DC

[Antonio Pizza]

http://remix.overclocked.org/cgi-bin/wwwthreads/showpost.pl?Board=reviews&Number=809&page=8&view=expanded&mode=threaded&sb=7#Post809

Is this the review in question?

[the biz]

Don't worry Dan, I wasn't busting on you. If anything, I was noting how it was an odd coincidence that both remixes started the same way. And yes, if you listen to all of AE's remixes they all follow the exact same structure. I had noticed that a while back. THIS n00b has a damn fine ear, so don't mess! :wink:

[A_Rival]

Hey hey,
I actually remember showing the beginning of the mix to DiscoDan a long time ago(I don't know if he remembers), and he told me that his mix started pretty much the same way. There's absolutely no chance that either mix had anything to do with each other. The only time when a mix of the same song actually had an effect on another was Bubbleman. I heard his mix, and figured that I didn't want to go the same route as he did. That's a huge reason why my Bubbleman mix is so strange, per se.
As for the song structure, DD's pointed it out before :-P If you hear the later mixes, they tend to break the structure a bit. Metalman actually plays the normal song twice, then breaks down to 2 different breakdown parts, which was different than both of the previous mixes. I could explain all this cheesy crap, but I'm not going to. They are all good mixes of the great music made by whoever made the megaman music(I'm actually going to look in the credits, because I'm always told I'm wrong); so, enjoy this free shit while you can!!!

I'm out.

Æ

[A-RoN]

A huge improvement from his first Super Mario Paint Remix, Dan kicks the door down, and assaults you with his musical bullets of trance. A great mix with great sweep pads, some well layered trance stuff.

Dan, what on Earth is that vibraphone sound used in the second part of the melody? It stands out nicely in this remix. Fun, party hoppin' stuff from Dr. Disco Dan. Give it up, y'all!

[burntham77]

This remix demonstrates how things are done around here. This is, for lack of a better word, perfect. It took a song that was already super catchy, and gave it more depth than I could have ever imagined. If Megaman 2 was released today, this is what Metalman's level would have sounded like.

The best thing about this song is that if it was played in a club, it would be easy to dance to this. I just can't say enough about this song! I wish I was more versed in music and song terms, so I could better describe the song, but the best I can say is that this is the best remix on the entire site, hands down. Great job Dan! :D

[chumble spuzz]

To Dan

oh. ok.

sorry, didnt mean to sound antagonistic, there. upon ReListening, the two are completely different, and both good, too.

...oh crap. i still dont have the whole thing! time to ReDownload...

[Domukaz]

Great stuff. I prefer this one over "Stainless Steel" since, like someone has already said, this rocks throughout, whereas only the first part of AE's mix has my respectr. But that's irrelevant when this mix is so F'in AWESOME! Slow to start (But what trance isn't), building, and finally coming to an awesome climax at the end. The samples are appealing, and it uses many variations on the same theme without getting boring. this comes highly recommended.

[Carbon Dog]

I loved the part from 3:17 to 3:30.

[Sileet]

I love that beat, melody, whatever you call it that comes in at 1:26, it REALLY excites me.. great stuff

[Slime Master]

When it comes to remixing megaman songs Disco Dan is the man of choice. He sticks to the original tune while throwing in a variety of different instruments. I'd love to see him make a remix of the classic Wily Fortress song.

[Royal Sovereign]

...now THIS, ladies and gentlemen, is what we call 'breathtaking.' The song is absolutely superb, from its on-the-mark conversion of the famous intro, to the soaring and darklit finale that utterly completes this excellent magnum opus of Disco Dan.

A trance beat set to the original sound of Metal Man's stage provides not just a great, albeit overlooked idea, but also gives fodder for the idea that such work could very well do well in the mainstream -- released, for instance, on an album or other collection.

Disco Dan is an absolute genius.

[Jooch]

Maybe it's all said before, but I just want to let you know why I prefer Dan's mix over all the other metalman remixes.

The original stage music of metalman has some sort of flow in the music which makes listening to it very addictive.
Although the other remixes with metal guitars were refreshing, they could not create the flow that was present in the original.
Dan is IMO the first to create this by his excellent baseline and care of details, he was also able to create more variety in his remix.

All in all, just a excellent piece of remixing! Let's hope Dan continues making remixes, because he is doing a damn fine job at it!

[Northern_Fist]

I couldn't agree with you more. This is one of the better Mega Man remixes here in general - period!

[MonkeyDRufee]

it's been a while since i've been to this site...i just happened to catch the thread reviewing disco dan's 'green amnesia' on the home page...i downloaded that song and i am just systematically downloading all of this guy's songs.


this is hands down the best rendition of metal man's theme i have ever heard. being a techno fan, i really enjoyed this song. keep up the excellent work.

[Bummerdude]

I love it. It has the same feel from Rapid Fire, but you can notice that DD has earned some nice new skills. This is a great tranceremix, and I recommend every one to listen to it. No wait, it´s an order.

[Psychotic Ninja]

I loved the original Metal Man's stage music, but, Disco Dan did another great job at remixing a Mega Man 2 song.

[Flashdance]

I really enjoyed listening to your Remix, Disco Dan. Oh, how incredulous technology is today...especially when you can match a great beat to a really popular tune! The club mix (what was it you used? A TR-808?) was a perfectly great match to Metalman's track! I downloaded (and saved!) this file and it has been working wonders when I want to get away from it all. It was well-suited to a club remastery, and I listened to it so often it rocks (or should I say, it Rockman and Rolled?!)

You totallyRockman and Roll!
Flashdance

I wish he'd do another just as awestriking.:nicework:
PS> If only you could pull off the same great quality of music from your other favorite videogames...:nicework:

[maelkashishi]

A techno song that is obviously carried by the (source) tune and the (source) tune only, which itself fits the style well, being all vivid. This does not help the tune from being sub-par in terms of originality, but for techno this is of course not required. The long and short of it is: it is not a particular interesting remix in any respect, but ok for hearing once- or more often iff you like techno.

[DjChexxMixx]

GLORY TO THE ALMIGHTY METALMAN!!! finally someone who can remix his song into a hot dance beat while keeping the orignal sound and feel to it. I highly sugest this remix if your a megaman fan.

[BlackPanther]

Funny because I just got done jammin to this song like 50 times over the other day. Has a nice techno feel to it, I like it.

[Quintesson]

To me this one feels like a "remix of a remix", in this case, an excellent remix of AE's already stellar take on the Metalman theme.

Don't ask me to choose who I like best... I'd fall over in my chair if either Disco or AE decided to remix The Dukes of Hazzard, Knight Rider, or Transformers themes (only one is in a video game, and it's not the one you'd expect!)

Although I play this one a bit more (not including how I replay it in my head at work -- you'd be surprised how Metalman's theme flows with moving freight), I really like them both.

-- Cybertronian.
(Absolutely, positively wanting a remix of the Mega Man 2 Boss music.)

[OA]

Pretty straightforward stuff from DD, but Metal Man's theme is a classic, and this is well done, wit some nice counter melody parts. The sounds used are pleasant too. I think it'd be considered too conservative nowadays, but this is still a pretty nice track. The intentionally sequenced delay at the end was a really clever way to close things though, very cool idea. :-)