DotA 2, by Valve
 

http://gameinformer.com/b/features/a...d-details.aspx

FYI, Valve officially announced Defense of the Ancients 2 today, along with planned updates to Steamworks.

So everything is exactly the same, except in a different, better looking engine.

Sounds more like a remake than a sequel.

It also sounds like much of this has already been done in Heroes of Newerth. Not excited thus far unless substantial changes are made.

I'm looking forward to this if only because Valve's involvement means it's more likely to have matchmaking that ISN'T hopelessly broken.

BTW I'm surprised to see DarkeSword posted this. Where were you when everyone was playing HoN? :P

Man, the site must be being completely hammered by Dotards; can't get a TCP/IP packet in edgewise.

I played two games of HoN and stopped playing for a few reasons. Mostly because it was difficult to figure out what to do and what to buy because the game didn't do much to actually explain anything to newbies, but also because I got the feeling that it was a game where there's a lot of pressure from teammates to not screw up, and I don't really like playing games where there's that much pressure. I like multiplayer games but I don't like it when they get really really competitive; I'm more of a "for fun" kind of guy, and DotA-type games are more of the former.

This I might play if the barrier to entry is lower and the community isn't hopelessly hostile, but it's also of interest to me because of the Steamworks improvements.

LoL is better anyways.

But yeah, I generally tend to not even play very much because I only play with my friends - the thing about MOBA players is that they all think that they are professionals, and they expect you to be as well.

It's encouraging to see that both Erik and Gabe explicitly refer to IceFrog as being really smart. I just imagined him as being some kid who decided to take something someone else made and make some l33t tweaks, but I'm glad that's not the case.