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oh my god I'm becoming tensei

Yeah and to be fair, don't you play mostly bot games as opposed to ranked like Jeff does...?

I agree that Ahri is really strong because of her huge mobility, low mana costs, ranged disable and solid nukes. I think Xerath is pretty strong too... he reminds me of a Ryze with more range, but a similar amount of spell spam. If I had to pick the top AP mids I would probably say (in no particular order) Ahri, Brand, Morgana, Kassadin and Xerath. They all compete on a similar level. All have long-range pokes and big teamfight presence. Orianna, Annie, Sion and Kennen would be the tier after IMO.

nope I mostly play normal draft and right now I'm in some ranked tourney a friend roped me into

also contrary to popular belief actively playing ranked games does not magically make someone a good player

Just for fun, I looked at Elementz' solo queue tier list (Yes, I know, lol Elementz) just to see what he thinks on the top AP champs.

In order, they are: Morgana, Ryze, Cass, Karthus, Kennen, Kass, and Xerath in tier one. Ahri's the top AP in tier 2.

I feel bad for poor Heimer, alllll the way down at the bottom. He was one of the first champs I learned to play really well. :(

Yeah, except I never use that argument to say that someone's wrong.

E: Anyway, you guys should just 1v1 each other to see who's right.

of those, i feel that kass, brand, and ahri are the top, with morgana and xerath lower ONLY because they require more skill imo to play at the same level. a pretty good xerath is the same as a darn good morgana - although that changes based on who got fed first.

Oops, yeah, I left out Cass. Almost NO ONE picks her but she is incredibly strong.

Morg requires more skill to be good in a teamfight, definitely. But she is really easy in lane because of her no-brainer farming and sustain, plus her shield prevents harass even if she misses her snare. So it's a mix...

a good cass is so fucking terrifying

Bleck is right. Playing ranked means nothing. In LoL all playing ranked means is that you're willing to put up with trolls and idiots who think they're tough shit with improper knowledge of the metagame and speak with the vernacular of a twelve year old boy.

Btw in my personal opinion top 3 AP mids in order are Cass, Morg, and Ahri. Biggest part of a strong mid is a consistent disable and these guys make the mark quite easily. Orianna, Brand and Karthus are the next three because they lack a consistent disable. Also as you know I really dislike Brand as a hero so he probably belongs just above Ahri objectively but oh well. LeBlanc and Heimer deserve honorable mentions cause they really dish out solid damage as well but have more specific uses.

LeBlanc, I think, is a really good example of how a really strong champ is hurt by mechanics that are objectively more difficult to pull off than others

specifically, her only form of cc being not only a skillshot but one that she has to land and then put herself in danger to actually activate seems kind of unfair compared to say annie or ahri or ryze's respective forms of cc