[Bahamut]

Originally Posted by The Pezman

I'm in a similar situation with the MacBook Pro. Goddam is it irritating with only rumors to go on, but I know that waiting til the redesign will pay off.

Why would you buy a Macbook Pro

[The Pezman]

Originally Posted by Bahamut

Why would you buy a Macbook Pro

I bought my current HP laptop in 2005.

• Last year nearly every part had to be replaced (thankfully while it was still under warranty). And now it still doesn't work very well.
• Windows Vista (which I'm using because XP doesn't have my laptop's drivers and it was difficult to hunt them all down) is irritating.
• I can't start learning to remix because DirectSound is crap and ASIO4All doesn't work
• My programs are slow as balls even though I perform maintenance on the thing every other day
• My battery has been replaced, yet has a maximum life of one hour and likes to fall out of my laptop every now and again and completely kill whatever I was working on

Compare that to:

• An incredibly well-built and popular machine which has reached a point where it can be appreciated by more than its diehard fans (i.e. mid-90s Apple)
• Exclusive, high-quality programs which are heralded by amateurs, professionals, and people on this site alike
• Much less spyware crap
• Core audio (which makes computer music possible)
• The ability to program small additions to the OS (which sounds damn awesome to me)
• Hell, an OS which is significantly updated by the company in a much shorter timeframe than Microsoft
• And let's not forget the removal of a major roadblock to switching: the ability to still run all my Windows programs.

Would you like the long version?

[Bleck]

Originally Posted by The Pezman

• And let's not forget the removal of a major roadblock to switching: the ability to still run all my Windows programs.

Woah, what?

[The Pezman]

It's true.

[Dhsu]

Or you could just use Boot Camp.

[Bahamut]

Originally Posted by The Pezman

I bought my current HP laptop in 2005.

• Last year nearly every part had to be replaced (thankfully while it was still under warranty). And now it still doesn't work very well.
• Windows Vista (which I'm using because XP doesn't have my laptop's drivers and it was difficult to hunt them all down) is irritating.
• I can't start learning to remix because DirectSound is crap and ASIO4All doesn't work
• My programs are slow as balls even though I perform maintenance on the thing every other day
• My battery has been replaced, yet has a maximum life of one hour and likes to fall out of my laptop every now and again and completely kill whatever I was working on

Compare that to:

• An incredibly well-built and popular machine which has reached a point where it can be appreciated by more than its diehard fans (i.e. mid-90s Apple)
• Exclusive, high-quality programs which are heralded by amateurs, professionals, and people on this site alike
• Much less spyware crap
• Core audio (which makes computer music possible)
• The ability to program small additions to the OS (which sounds damn awesome to me)
• Hell, an OS which is significantly updated by the company in a much shorter timeframe than Microsoft
• And let's not forget the removal of a major roadblock to switching: the ability to still run all my Windows programs.

Would you like the long version?

The Macbook Pros are not without their faults either. I have heard of overheating issues with it due to its design and crappy thermal paste (this is more with the early Macbook Pros but still). While I use a Macbook for a laptop, I can say that my experience is less than pleasant on it as well. It seems much slower compared to its Windows counterparts (my brother's Dell laptops are so much better than this crap), and parts of it literally have chipped away in about an year of use (not even from the computer falling, but while in one place) - there's a hole where I can see inside my computer. In addition, the USB ports are very spotty at times with USB detection, and there are still some programs that seem quite buggier than their counterparts on other computers (Firefox 2 & 3 come to mind).

I can tell you right now, a lot of the problems you think a Mac would solve, won't do any of the sort at all. Some of them aren't Apple's fault (i.e. battery problems), but their marketing, or at the very least the marketing done by Apple fanboys, is somewhat deceptive in making a lot of people think that they are these flawless machines on an OS that magically cures any problems some people have on a Windows machine.

[DarkeSword]

I split this out of the CTDS thread. Let's not go off on tangents in threads guys.

[The Pezman]

Psssh, I mentioned the MBP and Wes ran with it. I always tried to bring it around to CTDS.

Originally Posted by Bahamut

I can tell you right now, a lot of the problems you think a Mac would solve, won't do any of the sort at all. Some of them aren't Apple's fault (i.e. battery problems), but their marketing, or at the very least the marketing done by Apple fanboys, is somewhat deceptive in making a lot of people think that they are these flawless machines on an OS that magically cures any problems some people have on a Windows machine.

Please don't put words in my mouth. Did I ever claim it was flawless or that it would have zero problems? No I didn't.

They're also redoing the logic board and casing, so at the very least chipping will probably not be an ongoing issue. As for overheating, we'll see, but I do have a laptop cooler for the purpose.

[Bahamut]

And I'm telling you as someone using a Mac and Windows that I have had roughly the same number of issues, if not more computer crashes (but no reformatting issue thankfully). I never even used this laptop for anything extreme - it's used exclusively for web-browsing, music listening, email, and chatting.

[The Pezman]

Here's another question: how old is it? I didn't even pay attention to Macs before the Intel switch.