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Old 06-07-2011, 02:22 AM
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Through The White

Pretty much finished, but I'm willing to take suggestions into consideration. This is an orchestral piece I made as a sort of epic journey/menu screen sort of thing. I would love some feedback on the general quality of it, how you liked it, and if you could see it in a real game. Thanks in advance. If you feel like voting on it on newgrounds that would be nice as well.

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Old 06-07-2011, 03:06 AM
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Liking the arrangement and melody overall quality - Simply put, it's simple but effective. A very 'safe' track that could be played in a game like puzzle quest or what have you.

However, while the melody is nice, I feel like the use ot at least one other instrument (say, a pan flute on the softer parts) to play the melody at different parts of the song would've helped with making it a tad more dynamic. Perhaps even a duet of instruments playing the melody towards the end of the song.
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Old 06-07-2011, 03:11 AM
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How do you mean simple? This is a pretty complex song. Lot's of stuff going on. Much more so than many other songs I have heard and produced.
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Old 06-07-2011, 04:01 AM
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Don't get the wrong idea when I say simple. By no means am I downplaying what you've created here - I can hear all the different instruments, transitions and such going on. All of these come together to make a pretty neat sounding song. However, you even said it yourself in your initial description, "epic journey/menu screen sort of thing." Well I'm merely saying it fits the latter of the two better.

Also, this line?--->"Much more so than many other songs I have heard and produced." *shakes head* Far be it from me to judge, but let's not get TOO ahead of ourselves shall we? I'm no professional, but posting with that mentality will only get you shot down quick.
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Old 06-08-2011, 05:50 AM
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its just you have the same basic idea phrased over and over again, which isn't bad neccesarily, like she said it would make pleasant menu music, but I agree, it is slightly simple...for an epic journey the song has to have more ideas, more story, and stuff.
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Old 06-08-2011, 05:32 PM
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its just you have the same basic idea phrased over and over again, which isn't bad neccesarily, like she said it would make pleasant menu music, but I agree, it is slightly simple...for an epic journey the song has to have more ideas, more story, and stuff.
It loops once yes...but each different part is completely different...The only thing that stays the same is some of the instruments.

What wouldn't be a simple song then? Are Zelda songs simple? If so, then I don't really care if my song is simple.
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Old 06-08-2011, 05:41 PM
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While i don't necessary agree that it's super simple, it's not crazily complex either. Although there are lots of different variations on the melody, you always seem to end up back on the Aminor at the start of every 4 or 8 bar phrase - perhaps that is what makes it sound so repetitive. Think about going to the relative major or dominant or just even starting a phrase on another chord (you do this at some points but it does feel like we keep coming back to the A minor with mild melodic variations).
I'm not a huge fan of the bass drum sample - it could do with a little more reverb or just sound a little huger and more powerful. Also the semi-quavers it plays are a little uncharacteristic of a bass drum - perhaps you are going for a big old taiko drum, in which case that would be more characteristic but the bass drum sample is kind of unconvincing and unsatisfying.
I think you need a little more definitive structure - decide which is THE melody and make that the most important - at the moment, any distinct melody gets lost in the millions of variations there are - make a distinctive dramatic point for the song to go to - perhaps this could be triggered by a change in key (as discussed before) to give it a more definite form.

These are all suggestions of what i'd do or like to hear so you don't have to take them but you seem quite defensive about your piece and how complex or amazing it might be - i don't see anyone questioning how "good" it is, just giving suggestions and comments which you should take on board but not to heart.

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What wouldn't be a simple song then? Are Zelda songs simple? If so, then I don't really care if my song is simple.
You need to be less defensive if you're gonna post for feedback.

That said, it's cool. Glad you mentioned the menu thing cause it would be good for that. The lead string would sound better if it stayed on key, had some more vibrato and dynamics but that stuff is tough to pull off. I agree with Callum about trying to switch chords to keep it a little fresh. That's all.
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Old 06-08-2011, 07:12 PM
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It loops once yes...but each different part is completely different...The only thing that stays the same is some of the instruments.

What wouldn't be a simple song then? Are Zelda songs simple? If so, then I don't really care if my song is simple.
simple? http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=iw&v=yUzTKVstv-U

yes, some Zelda songs are more "simple": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Vfm_nB-Og, its just your song seems more "metronome" and less fluid and such. also, he's right about the a minor thing.
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