[zircon]

As many of you know, the WIP:O forum is not as trafficked as Community Discussion, but we do not want to clog C-Disc up with lots of threads that really belong elsewhere. So, we are implementing a new system, as something of an experiment, starting today. If you are a posted ReMixer, you are granted a posting allowance (in Community Discussion) of one thread per month that would normally be WIP:O content. There are some limitations on this:

* You may not do this with works-in-progress or single songs.
* These threads will be moved back to WIP:O in 2-3 weeks.

Threads that CAN be posted:

* Multi-song releases (eg. small projects, EPs)
* Album releases (commercial or free)
* Album announcements (eg. "I have an album coming out in 3 months")
* Remix contests or collaboration offers (eg. the Antigravity contest, sgx's remix album threads)

The allowance may also be used to move any allowed thread BACK into C-Disc, though it will only remain there for 2-3 weeks as per usual. Your allowance 'refreshes' on the 1st of each month. Post here with any questions or comments!

[Radiowar]

Are commercial album releases moved to this forum after 2-3 weeks as well? To me it seems that those sorts of announcements are less about getting feedback (i.e. a work in progress) than they are letting people know about a finished product you are hoping to sell.

[zircon]

Correct, they would be moved back here as well. But again, posting them in C-Disc to begin with (under this system) would be an allowance for posted remixers only.

[Antipode]

Why the restriction about only allowing posted remixers? Is this being implemented because you're getting too many album announcements/releases in gen disc (I mean personally I haven't seen this as a problem but I haven't been here constantly) or is it more intended to be an incentive to get all musicians who visit the site to post a remix? Just curious.

Other than that, a suggestion on how to increase OCR WIP and original music viewings might be to take a leaf out of VGMix's book - they have a WIP forum and a Finished Music forum, where both originals and remixes are posted, but each track is designated before the title with an [o] or an [r]. So instead of splitting it into Remix WIP and Other WIP, they split it into WIP and Finished, with each track posted within being organized accordingly between originals and remixes. They seem to attract a lot of forum viewers by doing this. But maybe that would get too cluttered within each, so I dunno - just an idea.

That said, I guess I'll have to get going on actually attempting a remix pretty soon here!

[zircon]

Well as of now, WIP:O is MOSTLY used for finished products anyway. But it gets woefully low traffic. Any solution that involves creation of another forum, I think, would reduce traffic even further. If you mean simply converting the two WIP forums into "In Progress" and "Released", we already considered that at one point, but decided it diluted the point of the site, which is video game music remixing. Most visitors here are interested in exactly that, and so the WIP:Remixes forum should remain as is.

Now, C-Disc still gets far more attention. We're extending the privilege to post WIP:O stuff there only to posted ReMixers because we don't want that forum to simply be a place where anyone can advertise. Think about how annoying it would be to see someone who signs up for OCR JUST to pimp an album release. That's their only post. If we were to let anyone post in C-Disc though, we would have to allow that.

Of course there is a grey area. You've been involved in the community and are clearly not just here to promote your music. But that's just it - how do you deal with the grey area? What criteria can we put forth to separate noobs and spammers from legitimate musicians involved with the community? The only clear-cut way to do it is to check whether they have a posted ReMix or not. At least, that's what we decided after a lot of discussion.

[Antipode]

Yeah, I can see that. That pretty much makes sense - it's more a pre-emptive kind of thing then. I know you guys are trying to make more and more of the site have specific written rules (e.g. the submission standards) so there's less gray area, so I can at least see why you would implement this - it's just a little surprising is all.

[DJ SymBiotiX]

Maybe there could be some sort of post creteria? Like, ive been here for a while and I'd really like to post a remix contest in C dis, but I cant because I havent had a remix accepted. So I would be in the grey area I suppose.
but then again.. this might cause people to spam just to get their post count up? I dunno, all I know is I'd like to post something up in there :D

[Vurez]

So this is just for original albums, right? So if I were to release my own full Remix Album, I would still need to post it in the WIP forum?

[zircon]

Yeah, WIP forum is also for full releases... depending on the nature of your album we might be able to promote it elsewhere though.

[The Vagrance]

Just out of curiosity, I plan on having an EP finished by this summer and hopefully a remix posted before then, but what if the remix is accepted, but not posted yet? Do I have to wait for the remix to be officially posted or only until it is on the "To Be Posted" area on the Judging forum?

God bless grey (gray?) areas.