[Dafydd]

Plus, New Vegas isn't really Fallout 4, it's its own, weird, thing. Kinda like Majora's Mask.

[Jean Of mArc]

http://ocremix.org/info/OCR_Mascot_060

Diddy Kong is also in "Super Smash Bros. Brawl" and "Donkey Kong Country Retruns" for the Wii.

[Mirby]

Originally Posted by Jean Of mArc

http://ocremix.org/info/OCR_Mascot_060

Diddy Kong is also in "Super Smash Bros. Brawl" and "Donkey Kong Country Retruns" for the Wii.

They usually don't update Mascot Bios with games after the bio was written, just so you know.

That said, I'm wondering... when are more mascots gonna be added? :P

[Darklink42]

Originally Posted by Mirby

They usually don't update Mascot Bios with games after the bio was written, just so you know.

That said, I'm wondering... when are more mascots gonna be added? :P

It's usually whenever DJPretzel gets the urge to add a few more, so it could be a very short wait or a very long one.

[Dafydd]

Originally Posted by Mirby

They usually don't update Mascot Bios with games after the bio was written, just so you know.

We do (or at least, we'd like to), but only if someone tips us off, and the bio has very few games listed, or there are ReMixed games on the site not already in the list. From the mascot bio project page:

Each mascot has a list of appearances. We initially wanted to list every game that a character appears in, but for some characters (e.g. Mario), the list got ridiculously long, and so we had to settle for the following:

• all games that this character appears in, with ReMixes on this site, are listed. If we missed any, tell us.
• some characters have been in very few or none of the games that have ReMixes on this site. In those cases, we have added a few games to their lists for reference.

We'd like to keep the appearances lists up to date so that, for e.g. Diddy Kong, the appearance list lists all of the games featuring Diddy Kong that have ReMixes on the site. Naturally, we don't check every time a ReMix is posted on the front page whether it's the first ReMix of a game that features any of the 160-something mascots, but if you or anyone else notices any games on OCReMix missing from the game list of any mascot bio that should have that game listed, or if you know of any games featuring a mascot with very few games in its appearances list, you are most welcome to tell us so we can update the list.

The bios themselves, however, we have decided to leave as is, as they were never meant to be up to date in the first place.

[Mirby]

Well I did say usually... :D

[Dafydd]

Haha, in that case, I'd say it's closer to never than not usually. But again, it's not because we don't want to, it's because we're not aware there are updates to be made.

[djpretzel]

I've got an important announcement regarding mascots:

1. We will soon be taking steps to remove certain site mascots from Square Enix, totaling around ~32.
2. I want to stress that this is something we willingly agreed to do; while I explained the hard work and creativity that went into the bios for these, the copyright owner is concerned about their usage - as is their right - and we are complying with their wishes.
3. The affected mascot BIOS themselves can remain online, sans art. I know that without the link from the right corner, they won't get much of a spotlight, but at least your work will remain online.
4. Temporarily, the mascot images will be replaced with a single mascot, Mega Man X, and we will update the redirects to all point to his bio.
5. Going forward we will not be adding any new SE mascots.
6. We will need to find some new mascots! Super Meat Boy is a lock, but we'll do a thread soon in the main Community forum to see about some others.
7. As always, I want to thank everyone for their hard work on this project AND for your understanding as to why this step is something that, while we wouldn't make in vacuum, is a respectful response to a reasonable request from the copyright owners.

We can't answer "why" questions or provide any additional information, but if you've got questions about logistics moving FORWARD, please let me know.

[Dafydd]

That's a shame, but I'm sure you did your best. I appreciate the heads-up, and look forward to seeing a new set of mascots to fill out the void. It's been too long since any new ones were added.

I don't wish to protest in any way, but I am curious as to what their concern was, exactly - whether it was the usage of their copyrighted images as such, or the way in which they were used (a question of clarification, rather than additional information, I would think). Not that it matters, really - like I said, I'm sure you did your best, and that if there was anything you/we could have done to keep the images (or other solutions, such as other images portraying the same mascots), you would have done it/asked us to do it. I would like to know, however, if there's anything we can do to avoid something similar from happening again.

Also, the mascotless bios should probably contain some kind of message explaining why they're no longer available, to avoid rumors and rage, however unlikely (hey, this is the internet). I would like some help in writing that message to ensure it doesn't sound wrong.

Good thing their issue was with the mascots and not the ReMixes.

[djpretzel]

Dafydd - Thanks for being understanding.

We can't discus specific details of our interactions, but know that I will ALWAYS do my best to represent the contributions of all artists, staff, and members of the community. Speaking in generalities, many companies consider their characters an extension of their branding, and want to avoid any misconstrued endorsement or sense of something being "official" that could be perceived. While my personal belief is that fan use of artwork in this context only serves to popularize these characters and their worlds - free advertising, in a sense - I acknowledge that my personal opinion matters less than the copyright owner's wishes. While it's an interesting line of discussion, we're limited in what we can disclose, and I'd prefer that we focus on moving forward.

As a side note, for the existing mascot pages, one solution might be employing fan art. We wouldn't reinstate the fan art in the upper right hand corner, but it could liven up the pages themselves. We need to work on a basic boilerplate licensing agreement that we can use for fan art - I think we need to start exploring more synergy between the VG fan arrangement & VG fan art communities in general, and this is a good catalyst.