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Old 04-12-2012, 10:24 PM
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What you don't like about music

Let me elaborate further

"What don't you like about making music and what do you think you aren't very good at."

Is there any step in the music makin' process you just flat out hate? Something you find boring, tedious or frustrating? Also, is there something other people think you're good at, but you think you suck at?

I'm just curious to know your thoughts. I hate recording and I'm fairly shit at guitar. That's my thing.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:33 PM
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Trying to decide if this track I did would sound good to the listener or not.
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Old 04-12-2012, 10:46 PM
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I'm not good at recreating soundscapes that are in my head. I don't like dealing with equalization or balancing out a track.

Kind of a negative thread. Maybe we should add something we think we're good at.. like how I.. uhhhh.. sometimes make tracks longer than 3 minutes?
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:05 PM
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Balance and instrumentation. I have a smallish set of instruments that I've become comfortable with, and I struggle to realize the ideas in my head when I venture beyond them. On the flip side, when I experiment with new sounds, I always produce my best tunes.

Level balance, though, is a battle I'll just never win :/
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:35 PM
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:46 PM
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I tend to get a pretty massive block right after I get the meat of the idea out of my head or once I complete a section I thought was perfect for what I was going for.

But to better answer your question i think I hate rewriting the most. Which is something I have been doing alot over the past few weeks. Trying to get older projects listenable but not quite getting there since i tend to delete everything that's new within 15 minutes...

You know what I also really hate?! Having a great idea for the perfect remix, then after working on it for 20 min. realizing that i can't get the tone/sound/instrument etc. that I need to make it all work! Then I trash it, throw my monitors at my neighbors dog, then cry myself to sleep. This is proving to be an expensive hobby/lifestyle.
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:59 PM
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What I think I'm ok at: arrangement, chord progressions, writing in general, drums

What I think I suck at: levels, balancing low end, picking good instrumentation (primarily, getting good lead sounds), mixing/getting room for things in the mix

What I'm improving at: effects - learning what they are, and how/when to use them

What I think I'm GREAT at: well, nothing, yet!

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Old 04-13-2012, 12:15 AM
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What I'm bad at: Lead instruments and melodies...
I can arrange notes but getting my lead instrument to sound 1) good and 2) soulfull is just beyond me. I'm a percussionist, I like noises... I get chords - their just an advancement of the rhythm, but actual melody...

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What I'm good at: Cooking myself the kind of feel good meal that makes it all better
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Old 04-13-2012, 03:47 AM
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What I'm bad at: Lead instruments and melodies...
I can arrange notes but getting my lead instrument to sound 1) good and 2) soulfull is just beyond me. I'm a percussionist, I like noises... I get chords - their just an advancement of the rhythm, but actual melody...

Bah

What I'm good at: Cooking myself the kind of feel good meal that makes it all better

I'm not much of a percussionist but the key difference is shaping the note while it's being played. I assisted teaching a bass methods class in college and I always thought it was funny that when I was helping a percussionist play something melodic he/she would hit the note then move on immediately. To get more expression, try imagining an image or event that the music seems to describe to you and think of that while you play.
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Excellent, an emo bitchfest thread.

One of the things I remind my students often about composing music is this:

Composing music or more specifically, mastering music composition is a life-long pursuit.

Acknowledging that point of fact is really important in engaging the learning process and maintaining a positive and constructive outlook throughout the journey that is mastering music composition.


What don't I like about making music?

The impediments and obstacles I face in the music making process are usually related to what I feel are the limitations of my tools and the legwork required to wrestle with those tools to get the product I imagine.

What do I think I am not very good at?

My foils are related to discipline. I am not very good at maintaining focus and discipline in general, this is not unique to music making, but is a problem I have with every aspect of my life.

(In order to remedy this, I need to balance discipline appropriately with a playful creative outlet, but it's not something that happens over night, it requires a lot of hard work.)

Is there a specific step in the music making process I flat out hate?

I really dislike instrument programming. It's like going to the dentist, it's good to go, you have to do it, but it's painful almost the entire way through.

Boring, tedious, or frustrating?

Along with instrument programming, I would have to say mixing. I'm never happy with my mixes. And if I ever find myself happy with my mixes, it never lasts.

I would also like to add that I am constantly frustrated with what I feel is a lack of harmonic diversity in my music making. At some point mastering conventional harmony is boring and you feel the need to push outside of the box more and more.

But music composition, as a life-long journey, does have its breakthroughs, it's moments of revelation. Much like Chess or Go, a beginning player wouldn't understand the movements of an advanced player, but then you have these breakthrough moments that free you from the box, but then you realize that you have to meet that breakthrough with an advancement in your skill because that box you broke through was providing structure.

The most important and embarrassing music revelation I had was last year when I realized that key signatures were meaningless and I have been struggling to advance my skill level to meet that revelation. Sometimes it's quite frustrating.

I'm also struggling with a completely satisfying control over orchestral timbre through orchestration and instrumentation.

Something other people think I'm good at that I suck at?

Music composition, orchestration, and production.

Often times we look at someone on top of a hill, and see them as being at the summit, but from our angle, we can't see the mountain behind them--they can--in hiking we call this a false summit.

There is still so much more to learn, so much more mountain to climb, and yeah, it can be exhausting, and it can be frustrating when you look over and someone younger than you is higher up that mountain, or someone who used to be behind you is ahead, but you gotta focus on your climbing at all times.

There is no final summit, they are all false summits, it's the climbing that's the point of the journey.
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