[Cash and Change]

Awesome idea, I'm interested! Got any ideas for what we would actually remix? I'd suggest sticking with maybe a certain game, or genre.

[Nonamer]

I would love to be a newb for this. I would just need time to practice learning my chords.

It might be a good idea to try to pair people up according to what software they use (ie I use Logic Pro, so link me with Rozovian), so that they could send each others projects back and forth...

[Gario]

Here's a thought on the compo - rather than making it a tiered or tournament styled competition, why not make it something that's bi-monthly or monthly? Something like presenting a single song or soundtrack that each group gets to chose from, allow three days to a week for each person who wants to participate to find a partner, allow for another week or two for remixing, then a week for voting. Winners get to pick next game or song and the competition repeats.

With all of these tourney compos that have been cropping up lately it seems like it's ripe for an alternative to come up once again. Unlike other compos, there is the incentive to work with other experienced remixers (and the opportunity to help newer remixers, pending on which side that you're on), so people may volunteer for a compo like this one more so than normal. It also removes experienced remixers the obligation to participate immediately - if Willrock, Zircon, Sixto, Myself, etc., can't participate one round due to whatever time restrictions but still want to participate, they very well could in another round. It'll allow for more people to join in at their leisure.

[WillRock]

I very much approve of this idea. Make it something like the ORC or the PRC, rather than a tournament

[Gario]

Aww... I miss the ORC.

[SuperiorX]

Yeah this is a pretty cool idea. I like the suggestions Gario and Will made below about making this a monthly or bi-monthly compo, rather than a tiered tournament. Those tournaments do take up a lot of time, so doing something monthly would allow people to come and go as they please. Having a monthly theme or soundtrack to choose from is a good idea too.

And I'm somewhere between a noob and a "star", so what team would I be on? Lol.

[Cash and Change]

I like the suggestions made by Gario, WillRock, and SurperiorX. I'd prefer a once or twice a month sort of thing instead of a tournament.

[MindWanderer]

Wow--I'm amazed at how supportive people are at having me do this myself! I got the feeling that all I've really done around here is piss people off with critical reviews. I'll talk logistics with other compo organizers.

Originally Posted by GravitySuitCollector

Just a quick something since I haven't seen it yet: I'd suggest making sure the newbies will actually be able to get into it, maybe an example to show they've worked a bit before and have a basic understanding. I think it would allow each participant, Star or novice, to get the fullest out of the compo.

Oh, yeah... I actually did have this in the back of my head, but forgot to mention it. Yes, each participant should submit a sample of their work--novices to prove that they've at least put some effort in and have at least a minimum amount of software to make it happen, and stars as samples of their work, so novices know where their expertises are and how they'd be most helpful.

Regarding tournament vs. one-shot format, I see your points, but I have mixed feelings. In favor of a tournament format:

• The tournaments seem to generate a ton more interest than the PRCs, which are often cancelled due to lack of interest.
• A round-robin format ensures that everyone gets to try several new things.
• It gives you that continuity effect of seeing individuals improve, which was a constant positive comment in the Wily Castle and the Sonic tournaments.

However, since this is a new idea, perhaps we can compromise: start it off as a one-shot, repeat as interest holds, and maybe do a tournament as a special event or if interest starts to fade a bit.

Regarding mismatches in numbers: What makes me uncomfortable is that it might come down to a judgment call. Say we have 3 novices and 5 stars sign up, and the stars are Gario, WillRock, DusK, Jakesnke17, and TheGuitahHeroe. I think we could all agree that Gario and Will stay where they are, but how the hell could one choose between the others without hurting feelings? Could do "first to volunteer for a demotion, first served," but that kind of sucks.

Themes: We could do this a few ways. I don't want it to be as restrictive as the PRC. Even choosing a particular game is limiting, and I want novices to choose something they have a passion for. But there should be some thematic element. When I was considering a tournament, I thought we could do novice/star theme sets (8-bit vs. 16-bit, Nintendo vs. Sega, fire stages vs. water stages) and do the usual tournament compo thing with them, but that makes less sense with a one-shot.

Partnering: Here's where feedback from experienced remixers could really be helpful (since all of my efforts have been pure MIDI). Round-robin format is obviously moot if this is one-shots. If people get to choose their partners, we risk hurt feelings and playing favorites, and perhaps novices holding out for working with some of the biggest names around here rather than learning what they can from people who are still pretty darn good. Then there's the whole "remix outside your box" idea. The compelling argument for letting people choose is of course software compatibility. What do you all think--randomize and force people to go outside their comfort zones and take some chances, or let people choose partners who favor the same tools they do?

I'm going to update the first post with a list of people who have specifically said they'd participate (scheduling permitting). I'll just assume that if you have a remixer profile linked to your username that you'll be in the star category; if that's not accurate for some reason, please specify.

[Rozovian]

Cool idea. :D

Why not let the novices find their own veterans among those who've said they're available? If the novices would be doing the bulk of the work anyway, the compo is kind'a geared towards them primarily.

Something to think about: genre restrictions. Might make voting more even, and not just about who does the most popular genre. I suggest you reveal the genre of the round _after_ partnerships are already formed, tho. We don't want to feel left out when everyone wants Willrock on their 80s synth rock tracks. ;)

[PROTO·DOME]

Sounds cool broseph. If this ever takes off, I'll give it a whirl.

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