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Old 07-29-2012, 11:51 PM
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I guess you gaiz have a point, but I'm disappointed that noone experiences exactly what I do. It's actually a really profound difference in tempo. Either you guys have higher quality brains or you don't ever go running :]
Here's the thing. They are, of course, your tunes, so when you're running, your body is operating faster, so to speak. Heartrate is up, Alpha and/or Beta waves in the brain are in motion, and because they are your tunes, you expect them to be as fast as your body feels in motion. In your head, the song will play back 'faster' because your body is well, operating faster. So when the song plays and it's not up to the subconscious expectation, it seems slower, and the 'slowdown' will be more pronounced the more intense the exercise is. I know what you'e talking about because this happens to me from time to time, albeit very rarely.

Adrenaline does have a part in this, yes. But it's mostly a mental thing.

Now, as Rozo is hinting to, running with a metronome? I believe the metronome will match your song tempo either way, although I've never really tried it and I'm not sure what the result would be.


And Modus, you're not magical. One of the effects of adrenaline on the body is that time seems to go a little slower. This is usually a part of the fear auto-mechanism ( for example with a poisonous snake: snake hisses and rattles tail, fear rises, adrenaline begins to flow, heart rate speeds up, body's reaction time speeds up, perception of time slows down slightly). Those last two are closely connected, and is affecting the 'tempo' of your own work. The reason only your music is being affected is because, well, it's yours. You "know" how it's supposed to sound in your head (because it's your own creation- you made it from start to finish), and when the adrenaline starts pumping, your internal metronome speeds up but the song doesn't, so it plays back 'slower'.

I think I just reiterated myself somewhere.

tl;dr it's all in your head. your body's chemicals are screwing with you
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:31 AM
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So basically everything in the movie Wanted was true.

I guess the mystery is solved
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Old 07-31-2012, 10:29 AM
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Try listening to songs right after you wake up...oh man, they sound so loud, and fast!

Somewhat distantly related is the phenomenon where when you first shift vision to a clock, the first second that passes seems to be stretched/longer than the rest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronostasis

The most prominent example of tempo perception being off that I have is that I have two versions of the same song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFBr3kWEJZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhJW28YKvsY

The first version is at a faster tempo, and slows down at the end. The second version is at a slower tempo, and has no slowdown at the end. Now, the first version is the original version of the song, and I've listened to it a bunch more, so my mind has gotten used to it. The effect is that when I listen to the ending of the second one, I =expect= the slowdown, and when it doesn't happen, my mind actually perceives the tempo as =speeding up=! It's super weird!

Another thing: I did a song for a dance choreography once--everyone kept swearing that at the climax where it went up to a higher key, the song got faster too, but of course, that was just a mental thing....more excitement/higher key sounds like it's going faster (plus, that part of the choreo was more complicated, so we probably felt like we were getting behind, and perceived it as the track speeding ahead of us).

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Old 08-04-2012, 12:13 AM
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Time Dilation

Like when you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R8KQpHga_w

And then you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxdK-_-rwug



To maximize the effect, choke yourself in between videos. What? isn't that what the kids are doing these days?
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:06 AM
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I had another psychoacoustic phenomenon happen tonight. I'm sitting at my desk in the dead of night, headphones in, just going through my WIPs trying to pick out ones to work on. I find a sort of a downtempo one and start chiseling its soundscape, but as soon as I play back my first change, I feel a sort of... chill, on my back.

I'm not really the sort of guy that gets spooked out of the blue, but there was just this odd feeling that something was behind me. I stopped playing the track and the sensation immediately went away. Now I've accidentally made sounds resembling human speech before, but it was overt enough for me to be like "lolol, that sounds like a person" This time it was just pure sensation with no obvious source. It was just weird because I didn't intentionally try to make anything spooky. I tried to ignore the feeling and keep working, but my brain was just screaming brah there's something behind you brah you better check it out.

So obviously, that WIP is still a WIP. Thanks subconscious mind, you asshole.
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:54 AM
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Turn this into a ghost story thread! Getting spooky already
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Old 08-14-2012, 10:27 AM
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And that's when Modus discovered the Formant
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:30 PM
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And that's when Modus discovered the Formant
Yeah that's pretty much it. One particular synth is very slow-evolving, bitcrushed, and the filters give it a sense of ubiquity. So it's pretty much a lethargic voice very slowly making human vowel sounds. That could mess with the brain :p
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Old 08-15-2012, 01:19 AM
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I had another psychoacoustic phenomenon happen tonight. I'm sitting at my desk in the dead of night, headphones in, just going through my WIPs trying to pick out ones to work on. I find a sort of a downtempo one and start chiseling its soundscape, but as soon as I play back my first change, I feel a sort of... chill, on my back.

I'm not really the sort of guy that gets spooked out of the blue, but there was just this odd feeling that something was behind me. I stopped playing the track and the sensation immediately went away. Now I've accidentally made sounds resembling human speech before, but it was overt enough for me to be like "lolol, that sounds like a person" This time it was just pure sensation with no obvious source. It was just weird because I didn't intentionally try to make anything spooky. I tried to ignore the feeling and keep working, but my brain was just screaming brah there's something behind you brah you better check it out.

So obviously, that WIP is still a WIP. Thanks subconscious mind, you asshole.
My advice? save that preset for a rainy day and a very dark remix
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