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Old 02-26-2003, 05:00 AM
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Default OCR00934 - Ninja Gaiden 'Sudden Loss'

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Old 02-26-2003, 05:18 AM
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The intro reminds me of the lve theme from romeo+juliet.

i'll try not to hold that against you.

The lead patch at the beginning sounds like its from my roland jv1010. familiar. i dont particularly like the strange attack.

i'm about 2'30 in now, its pretty nice. i think it could use some 'verb.

i would have liked to hear the strings kind of build up more.

overall pretty good.
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Old 02-26-2003, 06:39 AM
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Default Here's my critisism, not that it has any weight or anything.

I haven't listened to the song yet, I just got it downloaded. By doing this, I hope to give you a true evaluation.

the intro is right on track so far

I love the guitar chords and tonal colors in the background

the piano tones in the melody is great

Brilliant workup to the main riffs.

nice pizzicato strings

nice drums. Real precise and they enhance the feel

the kick back into melodious part is nice, and again, great texturing with
the tones in the background.

The bass tones, in my opinion should sound a little more, shall I say, traditional. But they are still nice on the ears.

I would like to hear the final melody part done with a medium distorted guitar, not real noisy, but it would enhance the feel.


All in all, I think it was great. You made alot of great artistic decisions, I know, because I have the original on here. Your version made me wanna pick up my accoustic and learn the begining chord progression, I believe I wwould learn a little bit from playing it.
On a 1-5 scale, I give it a 4.7
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Old 02-26-2003, 02:39 PM
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goat eh? .. interesting. Start! <songplayed> there are some things i like about this.. Lovin' the vibe it puts out, I also like how the mood shifts so frequently throughout the song. however, This song is really sub-par to the rest because of Instrument quality for the most part, I really wish goat woulda' suped up the samples a bit more. There are some hints of emotion though, and they do bring the piece to life a bit.. but still, needs far more work in my eyes. sorry man.

0:01 - er.. whoa! .. you jump right in.. infact.. with the way this sounds, i wish you would've Slowed things down.. you moved to fast there. way to fast... Fast like a ninja! ..er.. sorry

0:10 - The quality of that..eh..flute-thingey? is sounding *VERY* bad.. and killing the mood for me, when it hits those quick-notes, it can't keep up.. and it sounds just plain nasty.

0:26 - Again, the quality of the instruments used immediately hits me, They could *really* use a huge upgrade. and i mean *REALLY* but the arrangement sounds fairly good here.

1:08 - Diggin' this work right here.. soundin' good.

1:28 - Much better quality here. everything sounds much better.

1:53 - Not bad, one can note the ammount of emotion that comes through at this section in the piece, it makes you smile and nod. because your like "yeah" ..

2:31 - The instrument quality has slipped down again to sub-par. They really spoil a big portion of the song for me :(

3:05 - And your repeating the same thing, mix it up, you add another instrument or so but it really doesn't do much to the overall picture.

3:26 - Um .. did my song cut out? ..3:30 right? .. wtf.. that ending was very odd, while i like what you ended on, you Rushed up to it, and whats worse, you didn't hold it off at all, you just let it drop.. don't let it drop man! NEVER let it drop! .. :( needs a *lot* more work in my opinion.
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Old 02-26-2003, 02:42 PM
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Heh..I was expecting more from Goat...It sounded a little bleh...but WAIT! getting heavyer I hear?! now THATS goat! When the rock kicks in, Its awsome. Nice drum beat, makes you want to save the world or something. Omg..The ending cut off WAY too fast!! You should have let that last note fade out.....cause the ending was awsome...Oh well.. Keep those SOLID ROCKIN beats comming our way!

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Old 02-26-2003, 04:29 PM
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i rarely write reviews here... but i think this one needs it...

ok.. first off... WHY IS EVERYTHING SO DRY!??@%%

:( :( :(

the intro is terrible, in my honest opinion... i mean seriously... gah.

what the hell is that horrible flute sounding thing? wow. yuck. and that guitar is just sorta there. it sounds SO quantized and lifeless. every note is the EXACT same volume. play with the velocities or something man.

same thing with that piano. SOOO DRY and lifeless. use some reverb! play with the velocities!

the backing strings work pretty well, although at some parts they are kinda overpowering.

that harp at 1:02 is blah also. once again. reverb plz!

1:14 ... now we're talkin... but that harp is still killing it for me.

1:25 now we're really moving... but still... the harp... gyah....... those drum samples could have also used a tad of reverb.

then at 1:51 it really kicks ass. the synth there ain't the greatest, but it actually works pretty well for this bit here. the strings backing the song work great.

at 2:35 you bring in another synth... it doesn't sound TERRIBLE... but it could have used some EQ (some of the notes just dont sit right with me for some reason)

and the ending... wtf? no wait... no yeah. wtf?

the ending would have been perfect if you held onto it for a whole measure and THEN dropped it or something.

ok... so here are my suggestions:

A) Reverb!!!11111 It sounds SOOOO FREAKIN DRY MAN.
B) Play with the velocities on the guitar and the piano. make it flow better if you know what i mean. it sounds like it's being played on a really cheesey non touch sensitive midi keyboard or something.
C) find some not so GM sounding percussion samples... these aren't terrible, but there are tons of free ones out there that are a lot better, so there's really no excuse.
D) EQ and mastering skills are your friend.
E) Being able to end a song is your friend.

nothing personal, but i just feel like this song could be 10x better with a little more work.
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Old 02-26-2003, 04:38 PM
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MY GOD! This song ROCKS!
I Love it! The heavy rock is so awesome . I am defintly keeping this one. Oh Yes! Great goat, you did an awesome remix!!! :D
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Old 02-26-2003, 05:27 PM
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This is a great, GREAT powerful song!

I just wish I remembered when it plays exactly in the game...
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Old 02-26-2003, 05:31 PM
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I was initially surprised when I saw this song of mine pop up on the judge's list, because I had asked for one of those heavy guitar ones on here to be judged in place of it (which happened, but then this one came through too). I'm glad though because the constructive criticism here tends to be excellent.
I'd appreciate any feedback on how to incorporate samples that are external to one's built in synth samples (I'll go check one of the forums), because I did feel a bit limited when choosing instruments for this. To people expecting crunchy guitar...sorry, this was made before the guitar ones (before I sponged the mold off my axe), and I won't leave real guitar out again (unless I raise my sample/sample-mixing level to kick-@ss).
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Old 02-26-2003, 06:12 PM
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I'm liking this. Sure the sample quality in parts could be a bit better, but it doesn't ruin the overall enjoyment of the song for me. Plus its not at all what I expected to hear when downloading a song by goat. :D
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