[Palpable]

Originally Posted by KyleJCrb

As a serious question: Would you ever accept a remix of the Sonic 2 ending theme? It's originally a J-pop song by Masato Nakamura's band Dreams Come True, and a lot of early Sonic music actually uses some melodies from other songs by DCT, including Green Hill and Star Light.

I was aware of the Sonic 2/Sweet Sweet Sweet connection (in fact, I have that Dreams Come True album), but I hadn't realized there were other DCT connections. Going off of the very close release dates between that album and Sonic 2, it's likely the song was written both for his group and for the game, in which case it would be eligible to remix. I'd have to do more research to be sure, but I would definitely err on the side of letting the ending theme be eligible if we can't find something conclusive.

We had a similar discussion about Hikari, but it was clear from interviews that Utada had at least kept the game in mind while writing the song (though I can't find a link for you anymore), so that was conclusive enough to say it was ok for remixing.

[CHz]

Originally Posted by KyleJCrb

As a serious question: Would you ever accept a remix of the Sonic 2 ending theme? It's originally a J-pop song by Masato Nakamura's band Dreams Come True, and a lot of early Sonic music actually uses some melodies from other songs by DCT, including Green Hill and Star Light.

Not touching on the other Sonic tunes, but Yuji Naka says in the liner notes of the recently released Sonic 1 & 2 soundtrack that the Sonic 2 ending theme came first and was later reworked into the vocal version:

"… after finishing all of the tracks for the sequel, Nakamura sent me a fax saying, 'I've got a present for you. It's a surprise!' The other members of Sonic Team and I tried to figure out what it might be, but we could never have guessed that Nakamura reworked the ending theme that he provided us for 'Sonic the Hedgehog 2' into a song entitled 'SWEET SWEET SWEET' for inclusion on the DREAMS COME TRUE album that he worked on in London."

[DjMystix]

Thanks for the previous answer. Another question (two actually):

1. Is it acceptable to use a non-videogame song's background stuff (drums, bass etc.) as a backdrop for a videogame arrangement? e.g. using rhythm/pattern of "Smooth Criminal" as a style for Ice Cap remix? (By "use", I mean arrange the style not just sample it)

2. Is it acceptable to include non-videogame songs as part of a videogame mix? (maybe a verse or two)

[Fishy]

1. Keep this to an absolute minimum. One off passages sure but if it's super obvious the exact song you're imitating for a large chunk of time then you're paying just as much tribute to the non-vg song, which is not what we're about.

But for example of ok use, I sometimes copy drum parts from Dream Theater songs, but never for more then 8 bars or so.

2. Again it cannot form a large part of your remix. 10-15% at the most. This is a video game arrangement community, not a mashup one.

Originally Posted by The Standards

Any incorporation or arrangement of source material not from games (mainstream, classical, etc.) should be extremely limited.

[PROTO·DOME]

Originally Posted by DjMystix

1. Is it acceptable to use a non-videogame song's background stuff (drums, bass etc.) as a backdrop for a videogame arrangement? e.g. using rhythm/pattern of "Smooth Criminal" as a style for Ice Cap remix? (By "use", I mean arrange the style not just sample it)

Are you on about actually intentionally cameoing it, or just taking inspiration from that rhythm/chord sequence? Because in a way I don't think you can avoid the latter, everyone does it.

[Rozovian]

What's the policy on marketing yourself as a composer in the Recruit & Collab forum? It's kind'a like selling ice to eskimos (as iirc Meteo put it), but it doesn't say anywhere that you can't do it, and there's no other place on the forum for it (short of sharing remixes or originals, which tends to not be the goal of those posts).

I don't really like it, as there's loads of aspiring composers in the community contributing to the community who deserve the publicity posts like that can generate, and if we start having lots of self-marketing posts there we'd have collab requests and recruiting posts get drowned... by non-community ppl just marketing themselves, and ocr folks making use of the opportunity in a community they're a part of.

It doesn't happen too often, and I'm not saying every aspiring composer isn't gonna contribute to ocr, but perhaps a sticky on what should and shouldn't go into that forum would be a good thing.

[DarkeSword]

Originally Posted by Rozovian

What's the policy on marketing yourself as a composer in the Recruit & Collab forum? It's kind'a like selling ice to eskimos (as iirc Meteo put it), but it doesn't say anywhere that you can't do it, and there's no other place on the forum for it (short of sharing remixes or originals, which tends to not be the goal of those posts).

I don't really like it, as there's loads of aspiring composers in the community contributing to the community who deserve the publicity posts like that can generate, and if we start having lots of self-marketing posts there we'd have collab requests and recruiting posts get drowned... by non-community ppl just marketing themselves, and ocr folks making use of the opportunity in a community they're a part of.

It doesn't happen too often, and I'm not saying every aspiring composer isn't gonna contribute to ocr, but perhaps a sticky on what should and shouldn't go into that forum would be a good thing.

Not really a judge question, but yeah, I think that kind of thing ought to be discouraged.

[SonicThHedgog]

1. So in the "TO BE JUDGED " post, im confused, its says that the panel should look at mixes on or before nov "x" (as any date in november to simplify what im getting at). so does that mean including mixes since august-sept?

2. Can I do straight guitar and drum covers of songs, kinda like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf7-ixllcgo and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF99o...eature=related but faster in tempo.

3. If I add the phrase "pancakes" to my mixes under a vox synth (or vocoder), will it increase chances of gets a "Yes"?

[Palpable]

Originally Posted by SonicThHedgog

1. So in the "TO BE JUDGED " post, im confused, its says that the panel should look at mixes on or before nov "x" (as any date in november to simplify what im getting at). so does that mean including mixes since august-sept?

2. Can I do straight guitar and drum covers of songs, kinda like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mf7-ixllcgo and this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF99o...eature=related but faster in tempo.

3. If I add the phrase "pancakes" to my mixes under a vox synth (or vocoder), will it increase chances of gets a "Yes"?

1. Yes, we've looked at everything before Nov 13. If you submitted something before that date that didn't show up on this list, and you didn't get a direct rejection email about it, PM one of us.

2. This site is about interpretation. Anything where you're just straight copying the parts for guitar and drums is not gonna pass.

3. It might.

[KyleJCrb]

Originally Posted by SonicThHedgog

3. If I add the phrase "pancakes" to my mixes under a vox synth (or vocoder), will it increase chances of gets a "Yes"?

Waffles are much more likely.