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Old 10-20-2003, 05:07 AM
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Default OCR01058 - Breath of Fire 'Flames of Valor'

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Old 10-20-2003, 05:43 AM
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Frankly, it sounds great. The orchestrated sound enhances the overall feeling and experience without ever taking away from the original melodies. My only gripe: despite being six minutes long, it still seemed to be over too quickly. ;) An excellent song and tribute to Breath of Fire.
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Old 10-20-2003, 06:18 AM
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Never played BoF, but this is a damn good mix. I really like it. :D
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Old 10-20-2003, 06:26 AM
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Whoooa this is some hi-quality orchestral. Especially the percussion. The timpani hits, snare rolls, and cymbal crashes are all well articulated and well-placed. The samples as a whole could be better, but I find the arrangement is so well done, it overcomes it well. I think the oboe section is the best part, because I love oboes. But of course the whole mix is good, even if I wouldn't give it a highly reccomended. But maybe I just don't know enough about orchestral to really know what pushes something over the bar. I noticed during transitions, there's often a really long high note that is kind of annoying, but other than that, all good things outta this mix.
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Old 10-20-2003, 09:29 AM
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It sounds a little muddy in places... but that is to be expected...

there are also moments that i feel that the sound image is a little empty...

a little heavy on the reverb....

Kamikaze said it before I could... The samples are a little weak.

the string pads feel a little out of place for me.


But this IS a great arrangment... (Bonus points for using a harpsichord.)

and its worse than that hes dead jim.... I rarely get to hear an english horn. (its not an oboe.)

I play the oboe and English horn... not enough music really uses the more beatiful tones they are capable of, rather it tends to use the honky and more undesirable imo articulations... You capitalize on the VERY best of the double reed sound.


But largely I wish it were longer!!!


(VHD was this made with eridol? I feel like ive heard these samples before.)
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Old 10-20-2003, 01:59 PM
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I love this. I have no complaints really, but I know all of these melodies and I'm a huge fan of the BoF series. I just want to thank you for covering this game. Now somebody get to work on another BoF mix :)
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Old 10-20-2003, 04:41 PM
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Samples are weak? This sounds like Miroslav or Squidfont.

Quality samples. Amazing arrangement and orchestration. But I can't say I personally enjoyed this mix, it was too meandering for my tastes. It feels like it moves through several themes way too quickly without immersing itself in one for too long. I prefer VHD's previous mixes at vgmix. Despite not personally enjoying this mix, the technical aspects of this mix is most impressive. At the end of the day that's all that matters. Excellent job as always VHD.
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Old 10-20-2003, 07:36 PM
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First thing I thought when listening to the opening of this... "AWSOME! I LOVE IT!" The drums in particular sound amazing.

Second thing I thought when listening to the opening of this... "That horn sounds fake."

Unfortunatly, it is really noticible. When the above reviewers said some of the samples were weak, it's true. Some of them are... that one horn in the beginning specifically. In my opinion, most of the other samples hold their own quite well though, but that one sample just spoiled the opening for me.

The arrangment, the sheet music so to speak, is lovely, beautiful, stirring, wonderful. And this mix is as well, throughout. If the one single half-arsed sample I heard was near the end, or in the middle instead of at the beginning... well, you know what they say about first impressions. Once I heard the first not-so-perfect sample, I started PAYING ATTENTION TO THE SAMPLES... which is something you want to avoid.

The transitions were perfect, by the way, in my opinion. And this is quite a rousing peice, and I'm VERY glad it was accepted at OCR, and I'm keeping it, and I will likely listen to it quite a bit. Just... ooh, I wish there had been a better horn sample at the beginning. Just at the beginning, really.

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Oops, I was typing this while listening for the first time, and it just ended. Argh! Even though it's six minutes long, it's still too short!

I think I know why too, although you have perfect transitions (well, perfect from where I'm standing, YMMV) this peice is really just a collection of songs from BoF strung together. You didn't develop any individual theme very much... each theme was really rather short! I heard themes I definitely recognized, not so much from the game (which I played YEARS ago) but from other mixes on this site... consider 'Epitaph of Alan And Cerl'... DarkCecil took just one of the themes you explored (and let me say, for the short amount you touched this theme, you did it just as well as he did) and yet managed to pull it out for a full three minutes, not the minute twenty seconds (3:38-4:58) you had.

All and all, great stuff. I have to keep interspersing my critisms with comments that I love this mix... because I do. The only complaints I can muster (though I mustered them verbosly indeed) is the one sample I didn't like, and the lack of extra development for each individual theme.

I hope to hear lots more from you on OC here! I like what I hear. I like what I hear indeed.
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Old 10-20-2003, 10:46 PM
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:( :( :( :( *throws away his ff5 medley.*


Seriously, is this recorded?? If not, WHERE DO YOU FIND THAT TRUMPET SAMPLE!!
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Old 10-20-2003, 11:44 PM
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Excellent work! Bringing already wonderful music to a beautiful orchestral arrangement is always a good thing. And the sound and musical qualities are fantastic. A wonderful piece. Congratulations to the mixer!
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