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Old 12-20-2004, 04:21 AM
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Old 12-20-2004, 04:35 AM
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I didn't like it because the original melody that it was inspired by was changed so much that it was almost unrecognizable and didn't sound very good. I really like the original tune, but this didn't have the catchyness or energy that made the original so great. It may have been the way the tune was rearranged, or it might have been how it felt fairly anticlimatic. I waited for the climax to come, but it never did. I actually told the song to "do something" near the end of the song because it was getting boring.

I have 3 other songs by GrayLightning, but I don't like this one that much. I would say that this is really well done and the instruments are well sampled and such, and I'm sure a lot of effort was put into it.

EDIT: Basically, I didn't like how he rearranged the song. I thought it sounded pretty bland and boring without any melody.
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Old 12-20-2004, 04:38 AM
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While pretty liberal with the theme, this is nothing short of awesome. Great dynamics + awesome percussion + amazing originality = GrayLightning.

This is what ReMixing is all about :).
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Old 12-20-2004, 05:12 AM
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While I can tell it was well produced, and the dynamics were well done and effective. The liberties taken here, the sheer combination of so many themes, it just left me very uninspired. I agree with thealexfish.

A little more harshly; I was physically rolling my eyes at how many OCR/orchestral cliches were used here. It was like everything I don't like about an orchestral OCR mixed in to one track.

And I can't help but think; How does someone who's as big as GreyLightening wake up and say: "I think I'll mix something today, you know what I'd like to hear: an orchestral rendition of a Chrono Trigger piece, I should check to see if anyone has done frog's theme..."

To someone just coming here, (ie: from Fark) it will floor them. I hope this pleases many fans of CT and the song chosen. But sorry I think I've built up a bias.
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Old 12-20-2004, 05:49 AM
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While I can tell it was well produced, and the dynamics were well done and effective. The liberties taken here, the sheer combination of so many themes, it just left me very uninspired. I agree with thealexfish.
Agreed. Quite cliche and uninspired. As with most Gray mixes, the sample-quality and sound effects sound great, and the composition is plodding and irksome. Eventually I hope this new-age phase will wear away. There's more to music than style and cymbal crescendos.
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Old 12-20-2004, 06:32 AM
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I think this is sweet. I'm not really a fan of the original (I think I've heard a few too many assy newb trance mixes of it), but this is real nice. Very kewl.
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Old 12-20-2004, 06:33 AM
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Sounds like all these negativities are either coming from Frog's theme being mixed which just somehow has to sound bad because of some expectation, or from something being done in a style. Sure I can see the latter being acceptible if a more in-depth review was written, but right now it just seems like one aspect is being listened to and then there is an ignoring of everything else. I know how this is, as it's happened in so many songs for me. In a gabber song, the gabber bass kick sample seemed so overwhelming at first, but then the rest seemed so much more signified after future listens, and it sounded so good.

Anyway, not that big of a deal. Most of these reviews are just this, short and opinionated. I guess I just kinda felt sorry for Gray, waking up (in retrospect to someone else's saying...) to see hate on his song he made for fun because of two aspects a lot of other people see as negative when he wouldn't think as much so. I even had the thoughts here and there these people are expressing, but not enough to make me say it in such a way as others here, based on past experiences with single listenings and how they shouldn't be relied on all the time; I too have loved the original so much at one point in time, it being one of my favorites in VGM ever all that time ago. Now it does nothing for me, and never will again. While Gray has clearly put in the original melody, I am glad there is some arrangement backing it up. As for that such arrangement having cliches, I certaintly didn't notice them. Which cliches are we talking about? An instrument being used? Ooh wow, I noticed that too, but the notes it played could have been incredibly cliched but they weren't. Oh well. I hope my ridiculous review has been as ridiculous as everyone else's. I only listened to it once and a half, heh.
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Old 12-20-2004, 06:36 AM
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As that which has been said, the sample quality IS great,and an effort has been made to have it sound huge and inventive. But i did however come to expect something more epic and original from GL ,because Frog's Theme had such great potential for a massive and dramatic masterpiece :(
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Old 12-20-2004, 01:02 PM
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I appreciated this dynamic melody. The orchestra is pure and brilliant. For me 01:38 up to 02:04 the melody is very diversified. This remix has a powerful energy. The arrangement is excellent. This is a Chrono Trigger remix. But the work is very great. This seems a good movie music. Nice Work,Gray!
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Old 12-20-2004, 04:04 PM
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Maybe this one wasn't supposed to be as epic as you expected? If you consider this in gaming terms, this would be one of a few different versions used at different points in the game. It sets a different mood than the one we're used to.

I dunno, I love this. Frog's theme is too short to not mix up a bit. Yeah, sure the theme has been done, but that's the point of the creative liberty. This is a new interpretation.

This is the first CT mix in a while that I have really been awed by. And no I'm not from Fark.


Thanks Graylightning.
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