[BardicKnowledge]

I have to have the Demoknight stuff -- love melee combat!

I'm hoping that we see some new toys for Medic and/or Pyro yet (maybe the beta stuff?)

[bark]

Originally Posted by Krug

OH

MY

FUCKING

GOD

Somehow, i knew this to be true. Will you stick with the axe, or go with the sword?

[Cinderwild]

Originally Posted by BardicKnowledge

I have to have the Demoknight stuff -- love melee combat!

I'm hoping that we see some new toys for Medic and/or Pyro yet (maybe the beta stuff?)

Personally I'm not too excited for the Detonator. It seems like the same vein of Direct Hit and Loch n Load; the fun of flare gun for me was the challenge and uniqueness of the weapon, but having one that accomplishes the same task with much less effort seems a bit dumb. This is assuming it can crit on burning enemies, not sure if it can.


Also Krug, that was the best possible response I could expect for the demo set from you.

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by Cinderwild

Personally I'm not too excited for the Detonator. It seems like the same vein of Direct Hit and Loch n Load; the fun of flare gun for me was the challenge and uniqueness of the weapon, but having one that accomplishes the same task with much less effort seems a bit dumb. This is assuming it can crit on burning enemies, not sure if it can.

It does crit enemies that are on fire in Beta.

However, one important thing to remember (as I recall): It does *not* detonate when it hits someone. You must right-click to explode it (and now it explodes when it hits a wall).

[Krug]

Originally Posted by bark

Somehow, i knew this to be true. Will you stick with the axe, or go with the sword?

That sword would be sick for survivability similar to the zatoichi plus being able to charge at or away more often, but I think I'll stick with the axe purely for the insane melee damage. However...dat shield...dem booties. Full movement control while charging?! Good luck strafing out of my charge path now motherfuckers!

[BardicKnowledge]

Originally Posted by Cinderwild

Personally I'm not too excited for the Detonator. It seems like the same vein of Direct Hit and Loch n Load; the fun of flare gun for me was the challenge and uniqueness of the weapon, but having one that accomplishes the same task with much less effort seems a bit dumb. This is assuming it can crit on burning enemies, not sure if it can.


Also Krug, that was the best possible response I could expect for the demo set from you.

I'd argue that the Direct Hit rewards skillshots by having a lower splash damage radius. I'm with you on the Loch n Load though, as every good demo I know fires mostly direct shots anyway (as opposed to Soldiers, who often fire for feet/area damage to set up a better 2nd rocket).

The only thing unquestionably better about the Direct Hit is that it makes the Soldier much better at clearing buldings; specifically, mini-sentries take only one DH rocket, while they require two normal ones.

Edit: Any thoughts on what a 3rd uber for the Medic might do? My only thought is the ability to heal multiple targets at once for a brief period of time, which would not be as useful as the other two...

[Powerlord]

Originally Posted by BardicKnowledge

Edit: Any thoughts on what a 3rd uber for the Medic might do? My only thought is the ability to heal multiple targets at once for a brief period of time, which would not be as useful as the other two...

The Quick Fix, the one that's been in Beta for like a year, charges 40% faster, but heals both the medic and his target at like 300% speeds when you use its uber.

It also speeds the Medic up if the person he's healing moves faster than him (so you can heal a Scout to get to the battlefield sooner).

[Lyrai]

http://www.teamfortress.com/uberupdate/scoutpack.html

SUDDENLY OUT OF NOWHERE.

Or would "GET HYPE" be more fitting here.

Yes I think it would after looking at that scattergun. Go back to the TimbukTuesday page and check the pile of shields for a hidden link if you're wondering where this wonderful pile of items came from.

[ParanoidDrone]

I've been away for the last few days, so I know I'm late to the party here, but OH MY GOD DAT SPY KNIFE.

L'Etranger + The Big Earner + Dead Ringer = Godmode?

(I wonder what the flower does.)

Given how tend to be a Ninja Heavy on the rare occasion I actually play the class, I foresee much hilarity with Tomislav in the future.

The Enforcer seems uninspired statwise, and is yet another weapon that has its downside negated by the Dead Ringer. Unless it applies it by increasing the amount of time it takes to arm it, which would be hilarious yet still valid.

The Bazaar Bargain has to have some sort of stealth downside otherwise the stats as listed are a direct upgrade over the vanilla Rifle.

I must confess that I don't like how the Demoman is getting so many items to encourage the Demoknight playstyle. On the bright side, less Sticky/Grenade spam.

My $0.02.

(EDIT: Ninja'd by the Scout page. Click the crushed Bonk! can among the new Demoman shields. Or Lyrai's link, whatever.)

TRIPLE JUMP WHAT. That is all.

[Lyrai]

Not sure if it's mentioned elsewhere in this thread, but Valve has cleared the air with the Bazaar Bargain:

You start at -20%, and it has a cap of +30%. So you need two consecutive headshots to have a charge rate equal to the vanilla rifle.