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Old 05-03-2005, 06:35 AM
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Default OCR01348 - Super Mario RPG 'Three Mushroom Dances'

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Old 05-03-2005, 07:19 AM
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:D Great work Jeremy. The transitions worked marvelously with everything being held together by a warm timbre that suits Mario RPG to a tee. The section at 2:22 was brief but it certainly made me smile. This piece is truly alive with excitement.

Very clean. Very enjoyable.
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Old 05-03-2005, 07:51 AM
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i'm utterly trashed but I can say one thing: the volume levels of all the instruments need MUCH better balancing. it makes incredible source material sound somewhat mediocre, the entire thing somewhat difficult to listen to, some of the samples sound awful, and as if it were trying to be someone entirely different.

Get my gist? Sudden transitions and stretched samples does not a good remix make [/wingless].

EDIT: and yes I can still catch the referance to the smw castle theme. So for now at least, my opinion holds.
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Old 05-03-2005, 11:54 AM
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There's no doubt, this sounds quite magnificent. There's some lovely arranging in there too, it's quite worthy of being played by a full orchestra. Darface may be onto something with the transitions though, they do sound a little forced. Regardless, the final tune employed 4:17-5:54 (Forest Maze?) is truly brilliant, I want to listen to that part over and over. Worthy of a djp direct post to be sure, well done!
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Old 05-03-2005, 01:47 PM
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Not bad. Sounds like something out of a High School band or something. Those little bird chirps are kinds of annoying though...
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Old 05-03-2005, 06:18 PM
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this is a good remix, although i won't keep it. it is not one of my favorites. good job anyway.
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Old 05-03-2005, 06:39 PM
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Wow! It´s so cute! ^_^

I love all the instruments. Very calm music. The Mushroom Kingdom and Forest Theme are pretty cool. good contribution for the Super Mario RPG! ^^

Jeremy, your stuff is an inspiration. You won a new fan. And this ReMix is VERY recommended.
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Old 05-03-2005, 08:26 PM
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If I could get my hands on a source file for this song I might try and get my highschool band to play this for next year. We're pretty decent for a highschool so we might not butcher it too much

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EDIT: and yes I can still catch the referance to the smw castle theme. So for now at least, my opinion holds.
Actually it's the forest from SMW
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Old 05-03-2005, 09:36 PM
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From a compositional standpoint this is freaking awesome. I can actually hear direct quotes from Dvorak's Slavonic Dances, so that's pretty entertaining. It does a good job of combining the two - an expert job, in fact.

The only problem is that the samples are way too cinematic-y. This is such a classical composition that the samples make it sound too... eh. The only way this could really shine is through live performance, but that's clearly impossible. And there are times where there is reverb that KILLS the mood. A lot of that is at the beginning where he imitates the first dance. At least, that's what I hear.

Still freakin' awesome, though. I'm glad to see Robson take a less "epic" approach to some music. The classical style is definitely missing from the ReMixing community.
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Old 05-03-2005, 09:56 PM
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First off, you're entirely right.

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Actually it's the forest from SMW
Now I'll write a better review.


Right off the bat, the strings sound very muddy. They need to be seriously played with and have been known to cause lushes to assume entire songs suck. The accompanying percussion seems poorly sequenced and lacks real oomph. The sections with the flute are MUCH better and do provide excellent contrast. Yuck, the same problems with the strings are there again at 1:30.
The Nimbus Land theme seams somewhat better, but there are still an awful lot of problems with muddiness. Very few of the notes are nearly as crisp as they need to be. The insertation of the SMW forest theme is the first solid arrangement idea yet.
Around 2:50 the mix is sorta sitting around doing nothing... maybe it's trying to come to a climax, but I have no idea because it's so muddy. There seems to be an *attempt* at a smooth transition at 4:20, but it really seems to jump anyways.
The Forest Maze theme seems to be the best of the three, but it's also the song that has gotten the most coverage, which is dissapointing. There seems to be some attempts at reinterpreting the melody, such at the five minute mark, but to me at least they seem more like bad notes than genuine reworking of a theme. There is finally some real arrangement at 5:45. I like the chimes (although they are to loud), and it's unfortunate that they then quickly disappear.
I really don't like the ending. It seems like you were finally trying to bring in some more arrangement, then the song died.

There are some consistent problems, like the brass. Many of the issues here are similar to the ones with a previous submission nearly rejected by the judges panel. That brass sample that was pooped on is still being used very poorly.

Furthermore, the lack of arrangement is really killing me. All of the SMRPG themes have an element that lends them very easily to remixing. Look at the two Booster Tower themes- they are both pretty short, maybe around :30, but they have produced awesome remixes here and elsewhere. You got a minute thirty out of Bean Valley. Each of these songs, by themselves, has enough material for a six minute orchestral piece.
djpretzel said that these songs lend themselves very well to orchestral. That's true. However, if you strip away, say the addition of the SMW forest theme from the Nimbus Land section, what are you left with? An instrument upgrade. These songs were orchestrals to begin with.

This ReMix isn't awful, but the fact that many are already refering to this as something a high school band would play is very telling. The entire song sounds somewhat amateur with awesome source material and phat samples.
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