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Old 04-16-2010, 02:18 AM
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I like this idea, though worried about the workload you guys might have to take on eventually. I also feel like there are maybe one or two areas in the process where things could become more complicated and confusing. Like people wanting to mod review their mix several times, or people who make changes to something while it's in mod review. I'm just worried about people who might otherwise take more time with a mix trying to rush their mix to mod review so they can get the semi-official feedback. It might also be good for moderators to emphasize that this is not the judges panel by not using "YES" and "NO" kind of stuff. That would also put less of a barrier between the mods and the people who aren't mods who want to give criticism (because I'm worried about people listening to the non-mods's advice less).

We'll see how this all works out, and I'm glad that something like this was implemented anyway.
I think ultimately the quality of feedback is going to speak for itself so I don't think regular critiquers like you have to worry about feeling disenfranchised or overshadowed here.

I dunno about how Nutritious wants to handle things, but myself and halc both make an effort to give regular feedback anyway even if a mix isn't tagged for review, so having to do some repeat reviews isn't really anything I'm concerned about because I try to keep up with most of the songs that come through the workshop that need feedback anyway
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Old 04-16-2010, 02:50 AM
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I think ultimately the quality of feedback is going to speak for itself so I don't think regular critiquers like you have to worry about feeling disenfranchised or overshadowed here.

I dunno about how Nutritious wants to handle things, but myself and halc both make an effort to give regular feedback anyway even if a mix isn't tagged for review, so having to do some repeat reviews isn't really anything I'm concerned about because I try to keep up with most of the songs that come through the workshop that need feedback anyway
Personally, I'm planning to focus on mixes in the Mod Review status. Dos kiddos means my time is sometimes limited. You guys can go wild on whatever, though
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Old 04-16-2010, 04:53 AM
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I saw your titles and figured this was what DJP was doing with you guys. It's great that he did this (and that you agreed to this) - a middle point between WIP feedback and the J's will prove to be useful for everyone here. I'm also glad you emphasized that it's a middle point, so people won't be too disappointed to see a mix rejected when the WIP mods said it was OK. Don't want you guys to get any flak from people when you're doing them a voluntary service.

Good luck out on the field of WIP battle.
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Old 04-16-2010, 05:50 AM
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I really like this system. I'm eager to try it out when I have time soon so that I'll be able to improve my craft! This is gonna be a great resource and I wish the workshop moderators (pseudojudges?) the best in their workload.
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Old 04-16-2010, 08:27 PM
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from people who are near the competency level of the actual judges
I find this disturbing. 0_0
care to elaborate?
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Old 04-19-2010, 12:03 AM
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care to elaborate?

For a second it just seemed like he was implying that you three were the only good critics close enough to the level of the judges. Obviously you don't think that but I was just stating that it could've been taken the wrong way. :/
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Old 04-20-2010, 12:57 PM
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I love the sound of this new system. Not that I haven't gotten outstanding feedback from regular users on here before (I appreciate every bit of it)... it's just, sometimes your WIP falls through the cracks if it's not from a recognizable game, or you polish it to the point where people run out of suggestions to make, but it still doesn't sound quite good enough to make it past the judges. I think that this new system will bridge that gap. Time will tell whether the workload is manageable, I suppose, but I'm rooting for it to work. The more levels of feedback I can get, the better!

Also, I want to give a big thank-you to you three for taking this on. The generosity of the OCR community never ceases to amaze me.
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Old 04-20-2010, 06:14 PM
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Also, I want to give a big thank-you to you three for taking this on.
Seconded. Rock on, all three of you.
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Old 05-31-2010, 07:10 PM
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You polish it to the point where people run out of suggestions to make, but it still doesn't sound quite good enough to make it past the judges.
This has actually happened to me. xD
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Old 07-31-2010, 06:12 PM
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This sounds great, not that I've submitted a remix before so I won't know the grass wasn't as green before but it's just nice to know that it's greener, now.
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