[Gintokipianist]

this is great dude, i did a cover of this before but it was just "played" you have added alot and it totally works, (might be a bit offputting if you was actually trying to mario too it though :P) great variety of instruments, not really a fan of the brass sound but to be fair very few brass vsts actually cut it, either way i really enjoyed this, great balance and panning. its quite busi but since its not drowning in reverb which sometimes happens with the busier stuff it totally works, more than anything else the arrangements is very cool and theres some good dynamics too

[M249-M4A1]

Thanks for the feedback! I'm going to set this to finished and hopefully get some more comments.

By then I'll have a story written about this song because I think it could go well with one!

[M249-M4A1]

Originally Posted by Razor

Oh wow! I like this latest version the best.

It's great to hear the progression of the track over the course of this thread.

Thanks

I kept them up just for that purpose. I think it's fun to hear a song progress through the works, and I think its a great inspiration for new remixers because no song ever starts out sounding great -- it's feedback from listeners like you on OCR and many months of work that will turn a good track into a great one.

[M249-M4A1]

Hey again everyone! I come with an update!

This update beefs up the second half of the song. The previous version to me had no energy and while it sounded nice, it felt it dragged on a bit. So I added some variation and excitement to this one.

I also found a problem in the previous version where the bass was playing and certain notes were panned to the right for no reason, which was the cause of my L/R balance problem that I couldn't figure out.

Changed a few instruments here and there and overall I think I'm done with the arrangement and song itself.

The one thing I will be doing before I finish this song is to go back and revisit the EQ. Some instruments don't seem to be playing the way I wanted them to. For instance, sometimes the crashes seem to be floating right in front of the mic, when they should be a little bit into the background.

I've also included a breakdown of my remix against the original source tune.

UPDATE: http://tindeck.com/listen/ixoz <--- OLD
SOURCE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqcPSbkS9TQ

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I'd recommend you download the mp3 and follow -- tindeck doesn't show play times!

The original source has only 4 main parts (A, B, B, C, B, B, D)

Source Pattern ............ When it Plays in Source
A = Intro ....................... 0:00 -> 0:21
B = Main Tune .............. 0:21 -> 0:31
C = Bridge #1 ............... 0:42 -> 0:56
D = Bridge #2 ............... 1:18 -> 1:28


My Remix .................... What Part I'm Remixing (refers to source patterns above)
0:00 -> 0:20 .................. * (original)
0:20 -> 0:30 .................. B
0:30 -> 0:39 .................. B (bass)
0:39 -> 1:00 .................. B
1:00 -> 1:19 .................. * (original)
1:19 -> 1:32 .................. C
1:33 -> 1:52 .................. B
1:52 -> 2:12 .................. * (original)
2:12 -> 2:32 .................. A (bass)
2:32 -> 2:42 .................. * (original)
2:42 -> 2:52 .................. B
2:52 -> 3:02 .................. * (original)
3:02 -> 3:16 .................. D
3:29 -> 3:39 .................. B
3:39 -> 3:49 .................. * (original)
3:49 -> 3:59 .................. B
3:59 -> 4:12 .................. C
4:12 -> 4:22 .................. B
4:22 -> 4:32 .................. * (original) + D bells
4:38 -> 4:42 .................. "STAR SELECT / MARIO OVERWORLD"
4:53 -> 5:32 .................. A
5:52 -> 6:15 .................. B

As always, comments and feedback is GREATLY appreciated!

NOTE: This breakdown ONLY APPLIES TO WIP #7.
NEWER VERSIONS HAVE TIME DIFFERENCES AND CANNOT BE FOLLOWED

[XZero]

Love it. I think some of the instruments are a bit too overwhelming at parts, which can be fixed with some panning and volume adjustment. That's my only constructive comment; everything else, from the arrangement to the instrument selection, is brilliant. This is an excellent take on one of the best tracks from SMB64!

[Cyril the Wolf]

I really like this arrangement.

I think the drum kit isn't mixing in very well in the beginning, maybe you could take just a little bit of reverb of the snare? The kick is okay, but the snare just seems to be floating out in space.

I really like everything else about this, I suppose it could be mastered a bit louder. Those choir samples are very obviously fake too, but I dunno how much of a burden that is.

This mix needs a little less reverb and more bass frequencies becuase right now the only bass that is there is the kick drum with the occasional timpani, and since this is orchestral, I feel like there should be a bit more bass presence.

Other than that this is pretty amazing, just needs some production polish methinks.

[M249-M4A1]

Thanks for the replies XZero and Wolf!

Some things I did in this update:

- Removed most of the reverb from the song
- Choir samples slightly altered (still not humanized but thats not my concern right now)
- Increased the bass freqencies. I had the EQ cut out some of the bass and lower frequencies because they seemed to be muddying up the song. Still feels kinda muddy because I have a 2 different synth basses playing most of the track
- Increased the tempo -- THIS UPDATE DOESN'T WORK WITH THE BREAKDOWN DUE TO TEMPO/TIME DIFFERENCES
- Overhauled 3 major sections of the song (not complete because the transitions aren't 100% smooth)

I'm posting this because I feel like I'm stuck and I know for a fact I'm SICK of hearing this song (its been 10 months!)

I'm relying on the listeners to help guide me! I need things to FIX because I want to finish and get this thing closer to submission soon!

Thanks again OCR peoples

UPDATE: http://tindeck.com/listen/vrty <--- OLD
SOURCE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqcPSbkS9TQ

[Cyril the Wolf]

Ah I see, well what would be better is to cut out the bass frequencies of individual instruments and THEN if its still muddy. (unless you did this already but that kick sounds 8000 times more beefy than before)

Mmm... I think the Trombones (left speaker brass) could either be made more wet or could come down a little bit. Those choirs blend a heckuva lot better, good work there.

If you want to adjust it, you could put a really intense high-pass EQ on the more active synth bass so that it doesn't muddy things, and you may want to consider taking just like the SMALLEST smidge away from the kick, but that is really really splitting hairs, and truth be told I like the sound it has now.

Still loving the arrangment, and I think it benefits greatly from the increased tempo.

[Tyler Gill]

OK, I agree that the tempo and other updates here work really well, but you have asked for things to fix, so I'll do my best to nit-pick (though really, overall I think it sounds fantastic right now)

The main thing that it seems to me is that the melody doesn't always stand out lots from the bass synths and strings.
Places of particular interest:
0:45-1:02 - the piano and bells (?) are almost buried in the bass parts at times. When the trumpet comes in, it stands out well. You could try to make the piano and bells parts stand out like that in that section.
2:40-2:50 - again, the strings carrying the melody get buried

You could also do more like at 4:00, where you drop out the heavy bass synth, which might make it feel less muddy too. It feels like that part repeats through most of the song, and doesn't really sound bad, but just starts to sound repetetive before 4:00. Skimming back through it all, it looks like thats the first time the bass drops out completely for pretty much the whole song. On some of the other more calm sections (0:45-1:00, 1:42-1:51, etc.), you could try dropping it out or EQing it down and the trebble parts so they stand out more.

Well, I hope this helps, as production is not my strength, but those are my thoughts. Take them at whatever value you want, but good work so far. One of the best upbeat versions of the best song ever

[Sansato]

This is great, though I'm a little bothered by the brass. This may be the result of an untrained ear getting the best of me, but I think that the brass is a little bit too synthy and, therefore, a little out of place in this particular song. It doesn't detract a whole lot from the ReMix as a whole, but it doesn't sound quite right considering the style.

That's just my opinion, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.