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Old 04-05-2011, 06:01 AM
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Castlevania II: Tears of Passion (Techno/Hard Rock/Jazz Remix) - V5

Yeah, it's been remixed a lot now, but I just wanted to see if this sounded any good and if this needs any improvement(probably does).

I'd like to actually submit this sometime later if it gets good enough.

http://tindeck.com/listen/vmic

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I uh... suck. I don't have a remixing studio or anything like that, this is all FL Studio. Dx

I can play piano well, but no synthesizer. :/
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Old 04-05-2011, 06:18 PM
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This is an excellent first mix, but I think there is still much work to be done.

This is extremely close to the original. You should work on that (mess around with the structure of the song, the melodies, the chords, etc.) although your solos and counter-melodies are a great start. Also, some of your sound choices turned me off (especially the guitar synth) but not all of them (the synths you used for the solos are great!)

I also think you should rethink the drum parts, or make them vary a bit more. That same beat over and over again sounds stale pretty fast IMO.

Keep it up! This has great potential.
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Old 04-05-2011, 06:40 PM
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Guitar synth? So, at 00:47? (the melody)

And sure, I'll do some stuff with variations on the drums and structure.
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Old 04-05-2011, 07:19 PM
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Guitar synth? So, at 00:47?
Exactly. ^^
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Old 04-05-2011, 08:34 PM
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Exactly. ^^
Oh, good. Because I was hoping to use it either better or less. xD

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At first, I thought the synth I used for the last solo that carried on as the lead would be a bit annoying to the ears near the end, but maybe it isn't that bad.

EDIT: I ended up adding enough harmony to that synth so that it's better.
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Old 04-06-2011, 01:16 AM
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This is pretty good. Definitely could be improved, but for what you got so far this is tight!

The guitar synth like you mentioned is a bit unsettling to me. Perhaps find a better synth for it or use a different instrument altogether
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Old 04-06-2011, 05:33 AM
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Thanks! ...I get the feeling I'll never find a free, truly nice-sounding lead guitar plugin.

So, for like the past... 6-9 hours I did a lot with this remix. I finished:
- re-mixing the balance of instruments
- replacing the lead of the first instance of the melody with a new--and more ear-pleasing--synth
- replacing the guitar synth section with a piano improv section
- varying the drums
- adding automation clips for the panning and volume of the basses
- fixing the solos up a bit
- changing up the bass at the bridge before the last solo so that it wasn't the same (boring?) organ pattern (more easily noticeable when wearing earphones!). Instead, there is something interesting going on with the bass for once.

And some other minor changes. xD

v1: http://tindeck.com/listen/vmic
v2: http://tindeck.com/listen/rxem
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Old 04-08-2011, 04:57 PM
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You're going to have to get used to being ignored at times. I'm also new and find the same happens to me at times, or if I do get help/attention, it's short lived.

Anyway, to your mix (version 2).

In terms of complexity, the second version does sound better than your first. I wont comment on your quality, as you say you don't have a good studio for remixing (still good enough for the listen though). I know this song well and I can see you don't stray too far from the original, but still retain segments of original solos and additions. I personally don't like original additions in remixes, mainly because they distract from the song being remixed (especially solos). However, you keep the song rooted enough to the original song enough so for it not to really bug me (I believe myself a rare case for what I've just said, as a lot of people here will tell you to keep adding original arrangements, so listen to those points if you wish).

The genre you've chosen appears to be a wide blend. There isn't too much of a focus on each genre element in your song, but that doesn't take anything away from it really. Some of the sounds you've chosen I think I quite good, mainly those being the leads for the original song. Again, with your remixing not being great quality, it's hard to nit-pick for "better" sounds since they're all a little bellow the bar. Still, you seem to be grasping the idea of taking a song, remixing it, and adding original segments and alterations enough so to make a good, flowing song.

If you really want to take this further, I recommend asking around for other programs to remix with. That may help you a great deal there, if you do so. Otherwise, I wouldn't worry any longer on trying to improve this one song right now. Try your hand at remixing some other songs and come back to this one when you have further understanding and a clear head to start with. Perhaps then, you'll be able to make further improvements that will make a greater difference.

Hope my words have helped in any way.
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Old 04-08-2011, 05:14 PM
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or if I do get help/attention, it's short lived.
Yep, pretty much.

Well, I finished v3 now, and thanks for the critique. I understand, there is a strange blend of genres, but it seemed to click for me.

Yeah, I like it too when a song is recognizable, at least. If there's too much originality, it becomes your own song, really.

Don't worry though, I've been re-editing it with a fresh mind each morning this week, so I always have been remixing with a "clear head".

In v3:
- Added a 33 second transition after the last solo (transition starts at 3:11)

v3: http://tindeck.com/listen/nyuw
v2: http://tindeck.com/listen/rxem
v1: http://tindeck.com/listen/vmic
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Old 04-13-2011, 12:38 AM
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I guess this is ready now, then. I don't think anyone would have noticed this topic anymore anyway.

Bump for mod review.

EDIT:

Sorry. Here's the source.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjazC45Qkww
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