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Old 02-16-2012, 10:32 PM
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Mmm...I really prefer those 9 points in Utility. He's so he needs that movespeed, and IMO the buff duration mastery is a must have for every jungler. And sure, philo stone is going to help his mana, but the CDR from blue is still quite useful on him, so I wouldn't say buffs are non-essential.

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Old 02-17-2012, 01:26 AM
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Just to nitpick and show how I think when I make my own builds:

Why are you jungle Nautilus as opposed to lane? To gank.
What do you need to gank? Get to level 4+.
When where and how many spells will be used in a gank? Usually 3. I'm initiating. Success or failure is determined almost immediately.
What do I need more: keeping my buffs a little longer or getting to 4+ faster? Get to 4+.

I can see the movespeed argument but you lose a lot of time if you're not at least breaking even with neutral creep armor and you shouldn't be packing ArPen runes. It's gotta come from somewhere. Also that's why you run the quints cause they give a lot more for less investment and any additional % has diminishing returns.
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Old 02-17-2012, 02:30 AM
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I have three pages and swap pretty regularly. My typical builds:

Ranged AD page looks like this:
* 6x Arpen reds
* 3x AD reds
* 3x AD quints
* 6x mana regen/lvl yellows
* 3x armor yellows
* 9x magic resist/lvl blue

Standard AP Carry:
* 9x Magic pen reds
* 9x mana regen/lvl yellows
* 5x AP/lvl blues
* 4x flat AP blues
* 1x AP quint
* 2x HP quints (that extra 50 hp has saved me many times)

Jungler:
* 9x attack speed reds
* 9x armor yellows
* 9x magic resist/level blues
* 3x movespeed quints

Top bruiser:
* Attack speed, AD, arpen reds (depends on who)
* 9x armor yellows
* 9x mr/lvl blues
* HP, AD and movespeed quints vary on character

Vladimir, Leblanc
* 9x magic pen
* 9x AP/lvl blues
* 3x AP quints
* 9x AP/lvl yellows

Support
* 4x gold yellows
* 5x mana regen/lvl yellows
* 3x gold quints
* 9x armor pen reds, but I am switching over to 9x flat armor reds
* 9x mr/lvl blues
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Old 02-17-2012, 06:50 PM
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We played two games with my proposed strategy last night. First one, we won. Second one, we lost, but I attribute that loss to feeding-level play by one of out bot laners

Thoughts:

* Teemo as solo top is a great idea.
* Corki works pretty well as a solo mid thanks to his excellent last hitting, pokes and escapes (with Flash and Heal plus his W, he's damn near impossible to gank and can get kills easily.) Tristana is not bad either but I think I like Corki more.
* Zilean is strong as one of the bot APs for his ridiculous bomb harass. Annie also seems to be a solid option to get farmed.
* Nautilus as jungler is real good.
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Old 02-18-2012, 05:47 PM
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hey everyone who has tried to play with me lately sorry i haven't responded i just haven't been home. i do want to play with you all
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:42 PM
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New record for Dominion: 8:32 to win, 451 points on our side. I was Gangplank, started w/ Zeal, then boots --> TF, Berserker's, done. GP's point control is sick, he is one of the best chars for the gametype.
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Old 02-19-2012, 12:55 AM
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New record for Dominion: 8:32 to win, 451 points on our side. I was Gangplank, started w/ Zeal, then boots --> TF, Berserker's, done. GP's point control is sick, he is one of the best chars for the gametype.
i beat that by 32 seconds earlier with shen
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Old 02-19-2012, 12:58 AM
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hey everyone who has tried to play with me lately sorry i haven't responded i just haven't been home. i do want to play with you all
You cut me deep.
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Old 02-21-2012, 11:34 PM
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So I think I've decided that Graves is the best ranged AD. Even though he's been nerfed several times, his kit is way too good. His Q allows him to poke and do tremendous AOE damage. W is great for covering escapes or for messing up enemy carries - all-around good utility. E is a fantastic steroid and escape. And the damage on R is absurd. He can burst down most any champion from practically full health with E->R->Q and a few auto attacks, and survive gank attempts extraordinarily well. Plus, he scales very well into lategame and is able to stay safe in teamfights between his ranged pokes and E. It seems like there is little reason NOT to play him.
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Old 02-22-2012, 12:59 AM
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graves was second best until they nerfed vayne, and then yeah
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