[djpretzel]

What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.

[ILLiterate]

First off, Mazedude's remixes inspired me to start remixing (for better or worse). Also, I'm a chiptune fanatic, can't get enough of them. With that out of the way this remix is one hell of a mix

It's gritty, the chiptune vibes are wonderful, and while it does have that low fi sound, the sequencing is no where near the chiptune level, and is actually insanely well done, as we are used to from Mazedude

A BIG gg and download

(P.S: "it will forever remain a mystery to me how 130 or so pixels worth of horizontal space suddenly became jihad-worthy" is one of the greatest quotes ever)

[Dhsu]

One of the few BT tracks that still get regular play. I don't think the bass gets monotonous at all, I could totally listen to this mix 24/7.

[OverCoat]

This rules. I don't see what's so controversial about it.

Personally I think chiptunes should be given just as much consideration on OCR, and they ARE, in my mind, just as valid as any of the "higher quality" productions found on this site. After all, what is NES/C64/Genesis/SMS music? In fact, I admire the people who stick to system limitations, since that is very difficult to pull off while also making a short, catchy chip. How well do you think you can work with 2 squarewaves, a triangle, a sinewave, and white noise? :)

However, NES chiptune arrangements of other NES chips seems kind of silly, however RushJet1 made a "Konami's Moon Base" song which is like a NES dancemix of Duck Tales or something, which was really cool. I don't know how well it would sit with the judge panel, but I certainly like it.

Another application of chiptunes I see is for the newer, current generation or last generation [or next!] of video games or PC games. Say I made an Amiga chip arrangement of TES4: Oblivion Music by Jeremy Soule. I'm probably not going to, now, but just as an example, since it could be done. If I were to chip one of his songs, I would be taking sort of a "deconstructionist" approach to the audio, which seems perfectly valid to me. Especially since I'm working on a chipdisk of my own, full of covers of my favorite anime themes [hahaha I am such a nerd].

The only real problem I see is judging whether the chip was well-constructed or not, not how "artistically valid" it is.

But anyway, those are my thoughts on chiptunes in general.

I love the C64 sound, and Mazedude embodies it well in this mix. Is it available anywhere in .sid format? :D or maybe just .it, I don't know what Mazedude works in.

[apoc]

I was pretty worried after reading the judges decision on this piece, but after listening to it, I surprisingly enjoyed it. I'm not knowledgeable about all the technical stuff that goes into these remixes, but I thought it was well done overall.

On the other hand, I'm more concerned about the quality of the sound and the overall atmosphere that's created when I listen to these mixes. This mix sounded like it came from some highly advanced NES machine - so it's probably not something I'd put on my iPod .

[Cyan_Ide]

An amazing addition to an amazing set of music. Great job to Mazedude, and thanks again to him as well as the rest of the artists and workers on the Bound Together project.

[Israfel]

Great stuff from one of my favorite mixers. I don't really think this should have been a controversy, but then, I think Espergirl (a Shnabubula chiptune; don't think it was ever submitted) is probably ocr-worthy too, so I'm apparently coming at this issue from a different angle. :P

[Dave Harris]

Yes, very engaging piece here. I am surprised it got accepted actually, what with the whole "retro sounds - GTFO our OCR" deal that has been quite present in the last year or so. I'm glad that it did though, and personally I'd love to hear more pieces like this pushing the envelope of what's acceptable on this site. This is quite a sparse track, doesn't tend to do a lot, it has to be said, though the things it does do seem to grab my attention. It ties in well with the quirkyness of the original soundtrack (much of which's material is also quite sparse and atmospheric).

Originally Posted by OverCoat

Personally I think chiptunes should be given just as much consideration on OCR, and they ARE, in my mind, just as valid as any of the "higher quality" productions found on this site.

As do I. It's important to realise that technical prowess, in whatever field, isn't necessarily proportional to what the goal of this site is, which is providing enjoyable remixed game audio.

Originally Posted by Israfel

I don't really think this should have been a controversy, but then, I think Espergirl (a Shnabubula chiptune; don't think it was ever submitted) is probably ocr-worthy too, so I'm apparently coming at this issue from a different angle.

I think Shnab submitted it, from what I remember. It'sa-comin' hopefully! And it'll be ridiculously controversial if/when it does - moreso than the FF6 Figaro Chiptune, for sure. I said to him at the time, if they reject that one they may aswell put a great big "we don't accept chip mixes" badge on the site somewhere. Anyway, should be great fun!

Hmm, I wonder how djp figured this was Suzuki and not Tanaka? Is this some sign that there's some hope in finding comprehensive track credits for this game? I'd jump for joy if that's indeed the case.

[DJ Skratch 'n' Sniff]

I downloaded this song a long time ago off mazedude's site so, when I first saw it here, I was like, "Man, that's an old one." I hope he submits Homestar's Mystic Quest; it's off the heezy.

Anywho, I don't see what the hell this chip tune negativity's all about. Good music is good music and ain't that enough? Figaro Chiptune is way more experimental than See Sixty Funk but, you know, whatever. Honestly, I think there may be a bit of elitism going on around here; submission standards have changed so much since 2000... I mean, I understand bandwidth issues and OC's surprising success but sigh... I guess that's why we have vgmix and Overlooked; because not everyone's good enough for Overclocked. Man, that was a lot of incoherant rambling; just forget I said anything at all.

Mazedude rocks.

[OverCoat]

Originally Posted by DJ Skratch 'n' Sniff

Anywho, I don't see what the hell this chip tune negativity's all about. Good music is good music and ain't that enough?

I agree with you, but I think the main problem is that the objective of the site is to showcase high quality arrangements, and some probably feel that, since chiptunes have intentionally low audio quality, they don't belong here.

But then, "quality" is pretty subjective. However, the judge panel sets a precedent for the site by allowing this song, so I think if a chiptune is very well composed [like this one], then it would most likely be passed. And, on top of that, read Darke's quote in the ReMix writeup :) he makes a good point and I think that quote seals the deal on this whole "chiptune controversy" thing. :)