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Old 01-25-2012, 06:34 PM
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I know First Evolution I got it as well, but I never liked it as much as the original (I own an original japanese cartbridge), but I think the music isn't so different between the two versions
You're right. Not much difference between the two. First Evolution is basically a sound upgrade of the original.

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Yeah, maybe it can be combined with the battle music?

Btw, I know there are some tracks that are in both Star Ocean and Valkyrie Profile (Confidence in the Domination, Incarnation of Devil and Mission to the Deep Space), so I think those would be ideal for this project. I don't know which disk they would go on though...
I think we can put each of these tracks depending on where they debuted first. I'm pretty sure Mission to Deep Space first appeared in Star Ocean 2. The other two came up first in Valkyrie Profile, right? But yeah, we'll definitely have these three up as they're common tracks in tri-Ace's games. I particularly enjoy Mission to Deep Space the most.
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Old 01-25-2012, 07:20 PM
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I think we can put each of these tracks depending on where they debuted first. I'm pretty sure Mission to Deep Space first appeared in Star Ocean 2. The other two came up first in Valkyrie Profile, right? But yeah, we'll definitely have these three up as they're common tracks in tri-Ace's games. I particularly enjoy Mission to Deep Space the most.
I think Incarnation of Devil started off in Star Ocean as well.
http://starocean.wikia.com/wiki/Incarnation_of_Devil

Anyway, these are my suggestions for VP:
Epic Poem to a Sacred Death
Requiem to a Predicament (Maybe with some Counterfeit Self as well)
Fighting the Shadowy Gods/Singing the Praises of Victory
Confidence in the Domination
Turn Over a New Leaf
Doorway to Heaven
All Is Twilight
At the Bottom of Hell is Distortion

Those are kind of the "Necessities" in my opinion. Most of them are in Covenant of the Plume as well, and I think some of them are also in VP2.

I haven't played VP2, so I can't really suggest anything for it, but I really like it's battle theme.

As for Covenant of the Plume, most of the music is from the first game, but there is Armed Blockade Stream, and Music Box Memento might be nice to include as well.
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Old 01-25-2012, 08:00 PM
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don't make a list

Let people claim what they want from anything Motoi has ever made

Make a list of game playlists instead of single songs
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Old 01-25-2012, 09:15 PM
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protip

don't make a list

Let people claim what they want from anything Motoi has ever made

Make a list of game playlists instead of single songs
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I really want this album to have a certain focus on his best tracks from me and the community collectively, not any and all tracks from these franchises. There are exceptions if the remixer is so passionate about a track I didn't include, but that's about it. Because to be honest, even though Motoi is a great composer, not every track he makes is special. There's a lot of filler in his stuff which I don't want to focus on. Also, I prefer to keep the concept of focusing on the tri-ace and tri-crescendo games, and thus all the Tales games are out of the question. OCR pretty much covered those quite well so re-doing them again here is completely unnecessary.

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Old 01-25-2012, 09:19 PM
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I think Incarnation of Devil started off in Star Ocean as well.
http://starocean.wikia.com/wiki/Incarnation_of_Devil

Anyway,
these are my suggestions for VP:
Epic Poem to a Sacred Death
Requiem to a Predicament (Maybe with some Counterfeit Self as well)
Fighting the Shadowy Gods/Singing the Praises of Victory
Confidence in the Domination
Turn Over a New Leaf
Doorway to Heaven
All Is Twilight
At the Bottom of Hell is Distortion

Those are kind of the "Necessities" in my opinion. Most of them are in Covenant of the Plume as well, and I think some of them are also in VP2.

I haven't played VP2, so I can't really suggest anything for it, but I really like it's battle theme.

As for Covenant of the Plume, most of the music is from the first game, but there is Armed Blockade Stream, and Music Box Memento might be nice to include as well.
I agree with the VP1 picks. All of those tracks are just so cool. I'm not as familiar with the VP2 OST, but we'll get to that bridge soon. For now though, thoughts on my current tracklist from the Baten Kaitos games?

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Old 01-25-2012, 09:25 PM
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You'd only get claims for the best stuff, if any claims.. better to set limits later rather than sooner. Besides suggesting that Motoi has any work that isn't best is like.. lame.
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I think it's good to have guidelines. I don't see any reason why people can't necessarily do songs that aren't on the track list, but there's no reason why there shouldn't be one at all.
Every project director runs things differently anyways .

EDIT: By the way, I noticed that the first post mentions that each disk should be around 20 tracks. I think it might be a good idea to aim slightly under that. 18 tracks is probably fine, but when you get closer to 20 you could be cutting it close in terms of length. Since most writable CDs can only hold 80 minutes of music, each track on a 20 track disk would have to be under 4 minutes (which might be limiting for some people). Just thought I'd put that out there; It would suck to end up with a disk that was just a minute or two too long to be burned.
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Old 01-25-2012, 10:29 PM
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You'd only get claims for the best stuff, if any claims.. better to set limits later rather than sooner. Besides suggesting that Motoi has any work that isn't best is like.. lame.
Well, it's just my opinion of things, particularly if we're talking about his modern games. Most of his PS1 era tracks are phenomenal, with very little filler in between. But Baten Kaitos and after contain a lot more music than the PS1 games, so there are tracks that I listen to that aren't up to par with others in terms of catchiness...or ones that feel too familiar. Again, I know this is all rather subjective, but I can't help but feel this way.

Besides, it's not like I'm going to outright decline tracks that are outside of these playlists. Like I said, if a remixer feels really passionate about a certain track I didn't include, then we'll go for it. It's just that if I keep it open from the start, I fear that the tracks I want to prioritize would be overlooked. I'd rather see two different takes on one of the tracks I've mentioned than two remixes of tracks I don't feel as passionate about. If the tracks I've suggested get no claims at all, then so be it...we'll come up with alternatives.

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Old 01-25-2012, 10:31 PM
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I think it's good to have guidelines. I don't see any reason why people can't necessarily do songs that aren't on the track list, but there's no reason why there shouldn't be one at all.
Every project director runs things differently anyways .

EDIT: By the way, I noticed that the first post mentions that each disk should be around 20 tracks. I think it might be a good idea to aim slightly under that. 18 tracks is probably fine, but when you get closer to 20 you could be cutting it close in terms of length. Since most writable CDs can only hold 80 minutes of music, each track on a 20 track disk would have to be under 4 minutes (which might be limiting for some people). Just thought I'd put that out there; It would suck to end up with a disk that was just a minute or two too long to be burned.
Very good point, Kuolema. Haven't thought of that, actually. I've been too used to using the word disc in a digital sense rather than physical.
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First post updated with my suggestions to the Valkyrie Profile part. Open to other suggestions from remixers and forums dwellers! Thanks to Kuolema for his suggestions and links. I'll keep this open for a couple of days or so then get to the hardest and longest part: Star Ocean series.
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