[Gollgagh]

Originally Posted by Garpocalypse

Depends on the style of remix.

get out

right now

[Garpocalypse]

Originally Posted by Gollgagh

get out

right now

You should back up your statements with points. Any reason? Or just trolling as they say.

It was 2am when I made that post but I still stand by it. "I" would not be interested in a dance/dubstep/electronica version of FFT's music.

Now i'm not saying a remix album of the OST couldn't be done. Avaris' Winds of Inishmore came to mind as I was thinking about what a remix album like this could sound like and if this album does come to be, then I would hope Avaris would be a major player in the creation of it. I think an album full of similar quality remixes would be the greatest album on the site yet.

http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01719/ -Winds of Inishmore

[mak]

Originally Posted by Blissamenouzu

I really don't have a preference of genre... I love all kinds of music.

^This is the answer to Gar.
Any OCR album(except few) has the same problem... Direction mess. This makes most of OCR albums not interesting TO ME as a listener.
Actually ilp0's megaman is the only album I like at this moment.

[Melbu Frahma]

Originally Posted by Dj Mokram

You two might be confusing FFT with FFVI. No Ivalice game has the same kind of drive that a main entry Final Fantasy has.
Do you even realize the amount of work and commitment that is involved into creating just a 1-disc album here?

Pulling off a multi-disc requires mad arranging skills, a fair amount of credibility and the support of both the staff and the community.
Think about it: if any prominent remixer had ever been interested in these games, there would have been a lot more remixes posted.
Directing a project isn't as easy as sending a couple invites and waiting for people to come in droves, as people seem to think.

Oh, trust me, I know how hard it is to get anyone to participate in any kind of album project; I tried to help run an unofficial album from site a few years ago, and we got, maybe, six remixers? Who as far as I know, only completed 2-ish tracks before the project petered out and died. So yes, I'm well aware of how hard it is to get anyone to make an album of something that doesn't have the captcha of a main-entry Final Fantasy, or a Legend of Zelda, or Mario, or some other name-recognition game has.

What I was responding to was the unattainable part of what you said. Do I think that the three-disc, full-on awesome treatment that the music of Vagrant Story, Final Fantasy XII, and Final Fantasy Tactics deserves would happen? No. Do I think that a one-disc, 12-15 track album highlighting some of the best from each is unattainable? No.

Do I think it would require a HUGE amount of work, HUGE time drain, and probably take three to four years, minimum? Yeah. It'd probably also end up with only a handful of remixers doing the majority of tracks. But it's not unattainable.

As to what someone said earlier about me getting the project going, I would honestly consider trying it, but I don't really have the kind of free time any more to do something like that - the only reason I have as much as I have had lately is because I'm job hunting. And I'm still kind of turned off from the last time I tried to help a project get off the ground, tbh.

EDIT: Plus, I have nil communal pull, which wouldn't help either, lol.

[Dj Mokram]

Originally Posted by Melbu Frahma

Do I think that a one-disc, 12-15 track album highlighting some of the best from each is unattainable? No.

I get your point, though condensing 5~6 discs into just one would be sacrilege considering all the memorable tunes left out.
I'd advise dividing that endeavor into three 1-disc volumes, each being created after the previous has been released.
That should make things more feasible overall, but organizing it would still require credentials that neither of us possess.

[Melbu Frahma]

Originally Posted by Dj Mokram

I get your point, though condensing 5~6 discs into just one would be sacrilege considering all the memorable tunes left out.

Oh, no disagreement on my part at all - I'm nowhere near as familiar with XII's soundtrack as that of Vagrant Story or Tactics, but I can think of at least a dozen tracks off of both of those that deserve recognition without even having to think hard.

Originally Posted by Dj Mokram

I'd advise dividing that endeavor into three 1-disc volumes, each being created after the previous has been released.

That could work - it would help keep project artists focused and do each OST justice without having to wait on some mega-album being finished.

Originally Posted by Dj Mokram

That should make things more feasible overall, but organizing it would still require credentials that neither of us possess.

And there's the rub of it, unfortunately.

[Gollgagh]

Originally Posted by Garpocalypse

You should back up your statements with points. Any reason? Or just trolling as they say.

'Trolling' is a word that has completely lost any meaning whatsoever as it has been constantly applied to the entire gamut of posting styles ranging from simple disagreement to outright antagonism. If you never use the word again, you will have made the world a better place.

I just get tired of people saying that you shouldn't remix this or that into a given genre. You can't know that nobody would be able to pull it off. Perhaps it's not my place to say this since I don't have the killer studio chops necessary to make even the most basic mix, but someone whose musical abilities are a complete unknown to me coming into the thread and holding certain tunes as sacred/untouchable just because they say so comes off as extremely grating and close-minded.

[Garpocalypse]

Originally Posted by Gollgagh

I just get tired of people saying that you shouldn't remix this or that into a given genre. You can't know that nobody would be able to pull it off. Perhaps it's not my place to say this since I don't have the killer studio chops necessary to make even the most basic mix, but someone whose musical abilities are a complete unknown to me coming into the thread and holding certain tunes as sacred/untouchable just because they say so comes off as extremely grating and close-minded.

And saying get out of a thread doesn't come off as close minded? You shouldn't take personal offense to people's opinions. Yes, I love the FFT OST, Yes, I friggin' LOVVE Antipyretic. I did a transcription of it when I was in college and i thought about taking it to the both the head of the Orchestra and the Wind Ensemble to see about getting it played. It's the one thing i regret most not doing.

This is one of the many cases where the listener's love of the original will do nothing but interefere with their ability to enjoy another interpretation. It's hardly a foreign concept, every one who has made or listened to a mix on this site has had to deal with it. I know many people who avoid sites like OCR precisely because of that reason. They enjoy the original, that's enough for them. Tell you what I won't even get into how many people told me that they hated the Bach cello suites being played on a Contrabass. It doesn't matter who was playing them, their love of the bach cello suites, and their interpretation of them. The fact that the cello suites were being played on a bass turned many listeners off to it.

Before calling someone else out, on a thread you didn't create, you should make sure you have everything straight.

Originally Posted by Gollgagh

Perhaps it's not my place to say this since I don't have the killer studio chops necessary to make even the most basic mix, but someone whose musical abilities are a complete unknown to me...

This just baffled the crap out of me. You call other people close minded?
I think you should spend more time examining what you are saying bud. Keep your Metal Man impersonations to a minimum.

Apologies to the OP, there's always something to iron out when working on a new idea. FFT should be represented better on OCR but in a way that accentuates the original soundtrack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIV9V...feature=fvwrel
This is an extreme case but I think you see what I mean.

[Gollgagh]

You know what, just ignore me.

Getting into arguments on the internet isn't good for my blood pressure and certainly isn't worth your time. I have a tendency to shoot my mouth off where it doesn't belong.


Carry on, folks; sorry for the interruption. I'll go be pissy somewhere else.

[Garpocalypse]

Originally Posted by Gollgagh

You know what, just ignore me.

Getting into arguments on the internet isn't good for my blood pressure and I have a tendency to shoot my mouth off where it doesn't belong.


Carry on, folks; sorry for the interruption. I'll go be pissy somewhere else.

These types of discussions are important. While it's impossible to form a solid conclusion that everyone agrees with it is relevant to the often times very complicated relationship between musician and listener. Plus, a little friction helps everything move. I was about to go to bed, but maybe i'll work a little longer on my stuff, and maybe start a WIP for this OST.

I have got to stop posting in the middle of the night