ReMix: Chrono Trigger 'What Hath Thou Done with This'
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- Game: Chrono Trigger (Square, 1995, SNES)
- ReMixer(s): Vicks Cornatto
- Composer(s): Nobuo Uematsu, Noriko Matsueda, Yasunori Mitsuda
- Song(s): 'Frog's Theme'
- Posted: 2002-08-10, evaluated by the judges
Newcomer Vicks Cornatto's initial submission, from Chrono Trigger, is a good solid techno bread-and-butter mix with a nice variety of synth textures that keeps things fresh, some syncopation and pitch bends, and an especially groovy piano solo at 1'56" that throws in some blues/rock flavors. The lead synth sound used is a little questionable - sort of a synth brass patch but with a piano attack - but augmentative harmonies on stereo osc-sync timbres help support it in most sections. Drums and offbeat bass are both relatively cookie-cutter for the genre, though that's certainly true for a number of techno tracks here so it's not fair to single this one out. I'd just like to see more + varied drum programming and basses that have a bit more autonomy on tracks of this nature. Gripes aside, the arrangement is still good, sounds and mixing above average, and the piano section in particular stylistically impressive. Good initial submission from Vicks.
Discussion: Latest 15 comments/reviews; view the Wretched synth sounds, but some cool soloing and counterpoint.
There's clearly interpretation, but the GM sounds have gotta go.
:-(
With updated sounds this would be a really cool mix, as there is a lot of care put into trading the lead and counterpoint parts. Sometimes the melody gets buried by all the extra parts, but it's pretty repetitive as far as the sections go, so I guess that distracts from it.
Not really feeling this one, but an update to the sounds and maybe some breakdowns or something to add some freshness to the track would make this one a lot better.
- OA on March 24, 2009
With updated sounds this would be a really cool mix, as there is a lot of care put into trading the lead and counterpoint parts. Sometimes the melody gets buried by all the extra parts, but it's pretty repetitive as far as the sections go, so I guess that distracts from it.
Not really feeling this one, but an update to the sounds and maybe some breakdowns or something to add some freshness to the track would make this one a lot better.
- OA on March 24, 2009
This really could use a remake. The instrument quality is pretty
bad, although I like the sound of the lead-synth. And what's more
important, is that the arrangement simply rocks, and I really like
the piano solo. The part that begins at 2:25 is also great. A great
remix that suffers a bit from not-so-great instrument quality.
- Echo on May 16, 2008
- Echo on May 16, 2008
While there is alot of awesome variation in the arrangment I have
to agree with some that the over all quality and execution is
wanting. Of course I don't mean it in a detrimental way.
It's a fun listen. Good work.
- Flare4War on January 4, 2006
It's a fun listen. Good work.
- Flare4War on January 4, 2006
I not a remixer( hopes to be one though) but I don´t understand
your "it´s enough sound quality" talk. This remix kicks, that synth
at the almost beginning was really cool, reminded me of Toto, and
the rest was just swell. The piano part was very jazzy, he kept to
the real melody but changed it so that he could play it more
freely. Even if the instruments does sounds s little MIDIsh, it
doesn´t bother much, because I like it.
If maybe the first word is what I think it is, I may not be as harsch as him, but yeah, I agree.
- Bummerdude on September 27, 2005
FireBug2X wrote: DEAR TO ALL WHO GO AGAINST THIS REMIX
If maybe the first word is what I think it is, I may not be as harsch as him, but yeah, I agree.
- Bummerdude on September 27, 2005
I like this mix. But maybe that's because I like Frog's Theme. As
in, I would just leave the game for a while when it was playing so
I could listen to it.
Anyways, I let a few people I know listen to it - the one description that really stuck in my mind was "It sounds like it's on a pogostick....I want a pogostick now!" and honestly, I agree - the beat makes you want to jump.
- BlueMage on February 16, 2005
Anyways, I let a few people I know listen to it - the one description that really stuck in my mind was "It sounds like it's on a pogostick....I want a pogostick now!" and honestly, I agree - the beat makes you want to jump.
- BlueMage on February 16, 2005
in this remix, i loved the beat and listened to it
in the middle, it sorta got slow for my brain and i feel half asleep, still listening to it but not paying much attention to it... then when im about to delete it, the very essence of the song was still in my head and i loved it... now this may not make much sense.. but it was awesome.. lol
well anyways good remix keep it up
- Incronaut on February 15, 2005
in the middle, it sorta got slow for my brain and i feel half asleep, still listening to it but not paying much attention to it... then when im about to delete it, the very essence of the song was still in my head and i loved it... now this may not make much sense.. but it was awesome.. lol
well anyways good remix keep it up
- Incronaut on February 15, 2005
Ginnsu wrote:Kyle Nin wrote: It's not the instruments that you use, it's how you use them.
Don't be giving me this cliche "It's not the size, but the motion in the ocean" stuff. .
"But I do know it takes a long time to get to england in a row boat." -Jeff Foxworthy
I agree... and I like this... I hate it when remixes go too crazy off what the original piece was... its very annoying.
- EvilRyu38 on April 20, 2004
I love this remix. It converts the song to a techno track, but
stays true to Frog's Theme more than the other remixes. Keep up the
good work, man!
- Krendall on April 13, 2004
- Krendall on April 13, 2004
This is an average (perhaps a little above average) interpretation
of Frog's theme. For reasons I can't understand, the overall sound
quality seems to be very low.. sounds like 96kbps to me. But
anyway: while no one aspect of this remix stands out, it is put
together well and flows in a way that is pleasurable to my ear. It
is perhaps a bit minimal during the first half, but that is amended
during the second. The bare bones percussion could have been
better, especially considering the length of the piece. Regardless,
the use of variation of the melody and a group of different
instruments is commendable.
Though I think the interpretation and arrangement is good, the execution was not amazing for the reasons I described (boring drums, low sound quality, minimal first half). Out of ten, I would give this remix a score of 6.5.
- zircon on August 5, 2003
Though I think the interpretation and arrangement is good, the execution was not amazing for the reasons I described (boring drums, low sound quality, minimal first half). Out of ten, I would give this remix a score of 6.5.
- zircon on August 5, 2003
I'm totally agree with Zeality.
He is new and well I mean that the music was great. not the best but it was good. So if you don't like it, why do you listen to it then?
- Cheese Soda on June 22, 2003
He is new and well I mean that the music was great. not the best but it was good. So if you don't like it, why do you listen to it then?
- Cheese Soda on June 22, 2003
Seriously, give the guy a break and stop dissecting the song. What
do you want, a 100-piece orchestra? This is a good mix. That's why
it got on OCR after they started judging (unlike Sigmatism,
Simcity_Speedtown, cough)
- Zeality on March 11, 2003
- Zeality on March 11, 2003
Though I didnt't find the sounds used annoying, I must admit that
they might not be the best of quality. However, this is very well
compensated by the style, groove, and feeling in the track.
Especially the piano solo and the piano sound are really good, and
the modified melodies straight after the intro were great. I really
can't complain about the sounds, because:
1. They weren't bad at all. (Especially for a 1996 computer) Just not perfect
2. Everything else in the piece makes up for it.
A bit of repeating myself there, but I had to make it clearer for some strange reason. Anyway, though not a total jackpot, this piece is very entertaining at the least, and much more at it's best parts. Thanks.
- HighWave Impulse on March 11, 2003
1. They weren't bad at all. (Especially for a 1996 computer) Just not perfect
2. Everything else in the piece makes up for it.
A bit of repeating myself there, but I had to make it clearer for some strange reason. Anyway, though not a total jackpot, this piece is very entertaining at the least, and much more at it's best parts. Thanks.
- HighWave Impulse on March 11, 2003
Really nice work, although I have to agree everything's a bit thin
und dry for a techno track (Or rather Trance, which is often
falsely labelled as Techno). The bass is a bit too unseeming and
soft, you should add some more kick to it, in my opinion. A bass
drum with more thumping electro-character maybe, and the bass line
- it's really catchy - make it louder! I think that would be a nice
contrast to the rather soft lead. You should try adding some
ambient synth sweeps to fill out the background, you've basically
only got lead instruments and percussion. The melodic work, no
criticism there, really nice work!
(Further elaboration on the difference between techno and trance:
Trance refers to a synth-based music genre which is generally soothing and relaxing in flavor. Ambient sweeps are often combined with gate masks to ambient soundscapes. A steady 4/4 beat accompanies this progressive, repetitive melody. Hard Trance, a more powerful version of Trance is often labelled as Techno, with its slightly "dark" character. Techno itself is a very abstract electronic music branch, it has basically the same structure of trance, but isn't progressive, it's more chaotic and random. A very lively and changing beat, sometimes with very weird time signatures, and metallic, machine-like sounds accompany minor melodies. You find sudden changes of velocity and times signatures, breaks and sometimes the whole thing even reverses itself to suddenly forward again. Oh my, have I been ranting.. Well, hope you didn't fall asleep. If you did, turn up Mark Oh's "Never stop that feeling" to full volume and enjoy your blood curdling in your veins.)
- Zetasphere on March 11, 2003
(Further elaboration on the difference between techno and trance:
Trance refers to a synth-based music genre which is generally soothing and relaxing in flavor. Ambient sweeps are often combined with gate masks to ambient soundscapes. A steady 4/4 beat accompanies this progressive, repetitive melody. Hard Trance, a more powerful version of Trance is often labelled as Techno, with its slightly "dark" character. Techno itself is a very abstract electronic music branch, it has basically the same structure of trance, but isn't progressive, it's more chaotic and random. A very lively and changing beat, sometimes with very weird time signatures, and metallic, machine-like sounds accompany minor melodies. You find sudden changes of velocity and times signatures, breaks and sometimes the whole thing even reverses itself to suddenly forward again. Oh my, have I been ranting.. Well, hope you didn't fall asleep. If you did, turn up Mark Oh's "Never stop that feeling" to full volume and enjoy your blood curdling in your veins.)
- Zetasphere on March 11, 2003
The song had its foundation set, and just built up with the basic
elements. This remix keeps a relatively simple structure
throughout, but that's all you can really do with this particular
song. After all, it is a very short theme. It's worth a listen,
even if you're into more complex melodies.
- Thylacine on November 23, 2002
- Thylacine on November 23, 2002
I'm working on a version of my song with better samples (and maybe
some natural intruments :) ) I was wondering if you guys think that
I should bother, or if I should just work on a new song all
together... and if I should then what song shall it be... Call me a
sell out, but I'd like to do a song by in a Square Soft title. I
just like the music put out by them. Lufia is a good game too...
anyway I'm rambleing now...
-Vicks
- VicksCornatto on November 22, 2002
-Vicks
- VicksCornatto on November 22, 2002
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