ReMix: Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom 'Nial and Nowhere'

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Phantasy Star III: Generations of Doom

Quinn Fox had some excellent source material to work with here - we share a mutual appreciation for the PS3 soundtrack at large, and this track is definitely a standout. I think Quinn did an admirable job with this light, floaty, angelic, largely harp + choir arrangement - a big fan of the original, there are things I would have done differently, and I might one day cover this myself, but I did enjoy this rendition. It's a fairly direct interpretation of a rather short piece, adding more ornate instrumentation and minimalist brush drums. General observation from the judges was positive, but noted that the piece was largely mid-to-upper frequencies and could have used some EQ to beef up the all-but-absent low end. I'd like to add in that I think the original is one of the more flagrant examples of how the Phantasy Star soundtracks can compete head-to-head with the works of Nintendo and Sony guys like Uematsu and Mitsuda. Overlooked and undervalued, I've seen recently that the original Phantasy Star series will be coming out as 'Phantasy Star Collection' for the Gameboy Advance. Not sure how I feel about the original games on a Nintendo console (actually, I'm pretty sure I find it disturbing and a bit unholy) but it'll be interesting to see what they do with the music. Coming back from my tangent - not necessarily Quinn's best work, and I feel given the strength of the source material he could have pushed himself a bit further, but an enjoyable piece nonetheless. If you've never even heard the original, don't hesitate at all.

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Discussion: Latest 13 comments/reviews; view the complete thread or post your own.
Another piece that gets right to the point without any delay! Some people may not like these brief pieces, but I actually enjoy them. Almost like an interlude. The fade in is quite nice and the bells sound, as all your mixes thus far seem to, chilled and mellow. The hammer dulcimer is a little jarring for me, but it's not a huge factor since it only debuts for a short time. The fake choir sounds nice even though it's clearly synthetic; it adds a nice texture to the piece. The track is all about the different colors and elements with nothing being too prevalent, and I approve.

- tweek on October 16, 2009
endblink;3838 wrote: Fault one: The length. It's way to short. Especially since the end of the song really starts to build. You get into it right as it finishes.
Fault two: The fade out. TERRIBLE. It gives it a feel that the ReMixer didn't know where he was going with this... or didn't know where he wanted to go with it, so he just didn't go anywhere with it. The fade is the biggest 'What the-?' I've heard in a while.
Fault three: Taking the first two faults in mind, I feel this mix could have had more. The ReMixer is certainly talented enough. I truly feel he could have taken more liberties with the song. Make us go somewhere. While I can tell the differences, there's not enough to them. Of course, I won't say what that 'more' could be, that up to the ReMixer, but it definately left me wanting 'more'.

I can see what was meant about wanting the length to be extended, but that was never a big deal. It got in, it got out; win.
Also, harping on fadeouts regardless of context is one of the dumbest criticisms ever in the community. It was always dumb when Prot did it, and it's dumb now. :lol:

- Liontamer on July 14, 2009
Nice source. Interesting sounds, quite unique, a bit muffled. Horrible fadeout.
--Eino

- evktalo on December 16, 2008
Fantastic mood, but that ending just makes me sad. :(
I pretty much agree with all of the other reviews; It has a wonderful nostalgic feeling, and a very serene atmosphere, but it is dragged off to fadeout land just as things are getting good. It seems like Quinn just ran out of an idea, and I think that he should have just shelved the mix for a few months and come back to it rather than do the fadeout.
A half baked classic, if that's even possible.

- OA on April 18, 2007
Sounded very dreamish, I guess the harps and strings helped with that. It's like your being in a perfect little town where kids play in the streets and there's flower shops and cafés in every corner.
I love how it then goes over into something that sounds like a music box. Like if someone is reliving his or hers childhood. When i read the other comments about this one, I prepared my mind for what supposed to be a horrible fade-out. I can agree that it doesn't fade very quickly, but it ain't bad if you would say.
Peaceful regards to Quinn, nicw work.:nicework

- Bummerdude on January 7, 2006
It's so beautiful, I wish it was longer!

- jordex on November 18, 2004
I like what was done with this tune. But I'm going to have to agree with the others here and say it's definitely too short. Just as the song gets going, and builds to what could be a new area not found in the original or perhaps some variation on the originals theme, it fades out. It left me feeling like it wasn't done... like it was ended prematurely.
I think this is a cool sounding remix that was brought to a finish before it was ready to be done.

- The Coop on March 31, 2003
Cool. This is just one of those chill songs, dreamy even. I'd like to see quinn do more of this kind of style.

- GrayLightning on December 24, 2002
Nice melody, but I agree is too short. When it starts to get cool, it ends :-/
Cool anyway.
PD

- PrOfUnD Darkness on September 13, 2002
It's a nice quiet piece of music, but it's too short and the end is not good enough. Then I find it happened too little. Too little changes and this make the remix a little bit boring.
Quinn Fox. Get the criticism and your next remix will be wonderful :)
6/10 (1=worst; 10=best)

- Hamu-Sumo on September 7, 2002
I love this mix. Its is a truely beautiful piece, and it really captures the music's original feel. The things Quinn Fox added to the piece as far as instrumentation and effects are compatible with the song's original mood and really enhance it. This is really important because I think a lot of remixers are good technically, but in the end they are simply taking melodies and dropping them on top of their own beats, which can have good results, but often ignores the song's true feel that lies beneath the notes. I think to truly remix is to capture what the original composer was trying to express, or at least to understand it. And I think he's achieved this! PSIII music definitely had a unique feel to it, very dreamy in parts, which lent to the fantasy-aspect of the game. Really some of the best game music ever. Overall, this is one of my favorite remixes ever. Great work!!

- Evilhead on September 3, 2002
I think I must of heard some WIP version that was floating around out there, because when I first saw this posted up on the homepage, I couldn't believe it had made it.
I re-downloaded it and was surprised to hear it sound so much better... but still needing more work.
Fault one: The length. It's way to short. Especially since the end of the song really starts to build. You get into it right as it finishes.
Fault two: The fade out. TERRIBLE. It gives it a feel that the ReMixer didn't know where he was going with this... or didn't know where he wanted to go with it, so he just didn't go anywhere with it. The fade is the biggest 'What the-?' I've heard in a while.
Fault three: Taking the first two faults in mind, I feel this mix could have had more. The ReMixer is certainly talented enough. I truly feel he could have taken more liberties with the song. Make us go somewhere. While I can tell the differences, there's not enough to them. Of course, I won't say what that 'more' could be, that up to the ReMixer, but it definately left me wanting 'more'.

- endblink on August 31, 2002
Phantasy Star 3 'Nial and Nowhere'
Well, I can't compare it to the original, but this is overall a very strong effort. It's short, but there's one fine arrangment packed into the two minutes this song runs. However, two things really ruined it for me. The first was the way the song faded - I've never liked fades, and this was implimented especially poorly (next time, give the user some clue that the songs about to end). Also, the engeneering is way off. This needs some major EQ work to put some highs in, since it sounds really muted right now. But if you can get past the flaws, this really is a worthwhile download.

- orkybash on August 31, 2002

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