ReMix: Treasure Hunter G 'Linoleum Stalactites'
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- Game: Treasure Hunter G (Square, 1996, SNES)
- ReMixer(s): Adhesive_Boy
- Composer(s): Akiko Goto, Hitoshi Sakimoto, John Pee, Masaharu Iwata, Tomoko Matsui, Toshiaki Sakoda, Yoko Takada
- Song(s): 'The World's Cavern 1'
- Posted: 2003-07-03, evaluated by the judges
Adhesive_Boy provides another interesting, not-your-run-of-the-mill ReMix, this time in 5/4 and from the Squareresoft RPG Treasure Hunter G. One of the main highlights is a great acoustic drum riff, well articulated, lending a hybrid-acoustic feel to the mix. Overall, this is compelling stuff, that doesn't cut any creative corners or hesitate to try new ideas. The melody is sometimes impressionistic and sometimes more straightforward, and a jungle-style breakbeat is layered on top of the acoustic riff. You've also got distant, spooky arpeggios, excellent choral patches, swirling, liquid synth lead, artistic and haunting piano, a solo string breakdown (!!) towards the end, and elements of jazz, ambient, and breakbeat all coming together perfectly. Tellingly, due to its unique, left-of-center style, Judge Israfel was perhaps the most positive, describing it as being "packed with interesting ideas from beginning to end" - if you're looking for interesting ideas, I'd have to agree: look no further. Not just interesting, but also musical and well-executed. Not quite chill music, not really driving or dancing music, to me this has enough motion, variety, and originality to just sit and listen to intently, appreciating the textures. At about five minutes, it's also telling that this mix still seems ephemeral, and doesn't drag on, which sometimes more experimental pieces have a habit of risking. Impressive and very respectably original stuff from Adhesive_Boy, from some new territory at that - kudos + recommended.
Discussion: Latest 15 comments/reviews; view the Interesting and ambient take on a track, with a few creative
liberties taken. I generally like it, though I think the
progression of the track is a bit slow; it meanders a bit, and the
beats could definitely be mixed up a bit more frequently. 5/4 is
pretty under-utilized, and you did a nice job with the percussion
to make it sound good.
Synthwise there's lots of cool stuff going on, with a pretty nice lead sound and some nice arpeggios as well. There is a bit of painful feedback about 3/4 through to the end though; i think some of the frequencies on that could have been tamed a bit.
I think i'd have enjoyed this a bit more if there was a little more going on melodically; there is plenty going on, but it mostly just fleshes out the underlying chordal structure rather than adding any specific color.
- OA on April 16, 2008
Synthwise there's lots of cool stuff going on, with a pretty nice lead sound and some nice arpeggios as well. There is a bit of painful feedback about 3/4 through to the end though; i think some of the frequencies on that could have been tamed a bit.
I think i'd have enjoyed this a bit more if there was a little more going on melodically; there is plenty going on, but it mostly just fleshes out the underlying chordal structure rather than adding any specific color.
- OA on April 16, 2008
Adhesive Boy's mixes are far and few between, but consistently
deliver as aural experiences. No two songs of his take the same
approach. Such is this piece, you wouldn't expect these instruments
to work well but AB pulls it off in style. Nice work.
- watkinzez on August 2, 2005
- watkinzez on August 2, 2005
I found this mix while checking to see if there were any Treasure
Hunter G mixes on the site... so far this is still the only one.
:(
The game's OST was absolutely mindblowing. By the time I got to the first training dungeon (where this song, "The World's Cavern 1" is played), I was hooked on the music. The CGI-rendered graphics weren't bad either. :D
Anyway! Just wanted to say how much this ReMix stands out for me. I love how it drifts around, pushes at the edges, and yet still comes back with the drums and beat. Funny you should mention Radiohead's "Morning Bell" - that was precisely what I thought of when I heard the intro percussion, complete with fade-in and all. :D
Actually, come to think of it, this ReMix style reminds me a lot of Radiohead's experimental stuff (as found on Kid A and Amnesiac - not so much Hail to the Thief). Electronic and very, very textured.
Well done. :)
- Fyda
p.s. Oh, and uh... one more thing: "Linoleum Stalactites"? O_o
- LFyda on June 1, 2005
The game's OST was absolutely mindblowing. By the time I got to the first training dungeon (where this song, "The World's Cavern 1" is played), I was hooked on the music. The CGI-rendered graphics weren't bad either. :D
Anyway! Just wanted to say how much this ReMix stands out for me. I love how it drifts around, pushes at the edges, and yet still comes back with the drums and beat. Funny you should mention Radiohead's "Morning Bell" - that was precisely what I thought of when I heard the intro percussion, complete with fade-in and all. :D
Actually, come to think of it, this ReMix style reminds me a lot of Radiohead's experimental stuff (as found on Kid A and Amnesiac - not so much Hail to the Thief). Electronic and very, very textured.
Well done. :)
- Fyda
p.s. Oh, and uh... one more thing: "Linoleum Stalactites"? O_o
- LFyda on June 1, 2005
Very interesting... In a good way.
I like all the breaks from the fast paced backgrounds like 3:27
- jordex on October 19, 2004
I like all the breaks from the fast paced backgrounds like 3:27
- jordex on October 19, 2004
The re-equed version of this track is avaliable at vgmix, which
seems to be down at the moment. (link later) and here (at 128kbps,
unfortunately. that was kind of an accident):
http://adhesiveboy.no-ip.com/linoleum_stalacties_(EQ_version).mp3
I also have the original rns file, but the drum patches and some other of the crucial samples I used were part of larger refills that you'd have to have in order to open those samples.
- Adhesive_Boy on February 2, 2004
http://adhesiveboy.no-ip.com/linoleum_stalacties_(EQ_version).mp3
I also have the original rns file, but the drum patches and some other of the crucial samples I used were part of larger refills that you'd have to have in order to open those samples.
- Adhesive_Boy on February 2, 2004
I really liked this song. I wanted to bring up something I thought
of when I fired this mp3 up. The beginning drum sequence starting
at around 00:30 (that also comes back around 3:02) Sounds just like
the beginning of Sakuraba's Arranged version of "Stab the Sword of
Justice" from Star Ocean: The Second Story. For all that have seen
my posts, I'll sometime comment on how much I love that game
hehe...and anime for that matter lol. But yeah, the the sequence
sounds very familiar. If you can find that track somewhere, you'll
notice it too. ^_^
But anyhoo, great song, I like it at 3:25-ish when that whole violiny part starts.
- EX / mAnicmoogle
- EtherealXero on July 15, 2003
But anyhoo, great song, I like it at 3:25-ish when that whole violiny part starts.
- EX / mAnicmoogle
- EtherealXero on July 15, 2003
Just to clear up any uncertainty, my previous post was NOT meant to
be disparaging, though it may have sounded that way.
Despite my misgivings about the genre of music, the quality is high, and very creative. 5/4 is one of the least commonly used common time signatures used in music (if that makes sense). Way to use 5/4 EFFECTIVELY, and hope maybe some people will take some creative license with upcoming remixes and decide to make something 7/8, or even 12/8. :D
Keep it up Adhesive_Boy.
- Snyderman on July 10, 2003
Despite my misgivings about the genre of music, the quality is high, and very creative. 5/4 is one of the least commonly used common time signatures used in music (if that makes sense). Way to use 5/4 EFFECTIVELY, and hope maybe some people will take some creative license with upcoming remixes and decide to make something 7/8, or even 12/8. :D
Keep it up Adhesive_Boy.
- Snyderman on July 10, 2003
Yes, it does emphasize the same beats as Mission Impossible, but
that is also generally the way 5/4 is done anyway. I always counted
it as if I was counting in 10/8...so it'd be like
[b]1[/b]23[b]4[/b]56[b]7[/b]8[b]9[/b]10. That's just generally the
way it's been done...Mission Impossible is really just the most
famous tune in 5/4, so everybody usually associates it with that.
One of the drum riffs is pretty similar to the drums Radiohead's
"Morning Bell" though.
Anyway, thanks for the compliments.
- Adhesive_Boy on July 9, 2003
Anyway, thanks for the compliments.
- Adhesive_Boy on July 9, 2003
Not to rain on Adhesive_Boy's parade, but Mission Impossible
anyone?
It's the exact same pattern. (5/4 with the exact same rhythm)
I must say though, this, while not my style, is very unique. I can't really explain it. I liked it for the sheer unique/strange feeling it had, while being a song I didn't particularly enjoy. Good work though, I must say.
- Snyderman on July 8, 2003
It's the exact same pattern. (5/4 with the exact same rhythm)
I must say though, this, while not my style, is very unique. I can't really explain it. I liked it for the sheer unique/strange feeling it had, while being a song I didn't particularly enjoy. Good work though, I must say.
- Snyderman on July 8, 2003
At least 99% of all songs ever created are in standard 4/4. This
song may throw you off, but it's all good - I found it easier to
listen to after I started doing the conductor thing, waving my
finger in the air to the time of the music. I happen to have a
picture lying around from when I was telling a friend about 5/4,
will dig up from harddrive and link...
http://www2.kalenda.com/andrew/temp/fivefour.jpg
Just try and find the beginning of the measures... the 3:32 area is a good place to find the rythmn, land the 1 like on that picture and cycle through, and the rythmn is much more apparent. At least that's what I did, the song went from somewhat disorienting to enjoyable.
- Nobbynob Littlun on July 7, 2003
http://www2.kalenda.com/andrew/temp/fivefour.jpg
Just try and find the beginning of the measures... the 3:32 area is a good place to find the rythmn, land the 1 like on that picture and cycle through, and the rythmn is much more apparent. At least that's what I did, the song went from somewhat disorienting to enjoyable.
- Nobbynob Littlun on July 7, 2003
Thanks guys! I didn't figure that everyone would like it, but I
figure that there's so much normal-sounding stuff out there, it was
time to do something a [i]little[/i] different. The track is pretty
simple - I did about 2/3 of it in one day (because it was for a
contest), and if I were submitting it now I'd definitely EQ it and
add some more on the low end.
Umm, but yeah. The intro sound was just me breathing into the microphone with tons of delay (and speeded up a little) and the drums are just riffs that I had floating around in my head. They do sound looped, and I really should've done more to vary them. At that section that starts at about 1:54, I just had two different drums that I fiddled with the volumes to make a weird effect. Most of rest of the stuff is pretty basic...some arpeggios w/the piano and I added some violins in there so people wouldn't go insane listening to that extremely flanged and overdriven guitar lead for the whole piece.
The way djp describes it, though, it sounds like a friggin masterpiece. Glad he liked it. Enjoy.
- Adhesive_Boy on July 6, 2003
Umm, but yeah. The intro sound was just me breathing into the microphone with tons of delay (and speeded up a little) and the drums are just riffs that I had floating around in my head. They do sound looped, and I really should've done more to vary them. At that section that starts at about 1:54, I just had two different drums that I fiddled with the volumes to make a weird effect. Most of rest of the stuff is pretty basic...some arpeggios w/the piano and I added some violins in there so people wouldn't go insane listening to that extremely flanged and overdriven guitar lead for the whole piece.
The way djp describes it, though, it sounds like a friggin masterpiece. Glad he liked it. Enjoy.
- Adhesive_Boy on July 6, 2003
Hmm..never heard the original version of this song, so I feel
somewhat guilty reviewing it.
That aside...
The percussion is great. I agree with the previous posts about Dave B. (awesome music, awesome!) I wish I could get this remix with just the percussion and the chanting-voice-sound from 4:42 till 4:50.
Not too keen on the other synth stuff going on...though there was a point at 3:30 with the violins that I liked.
Good remix, trying something new. Can't say I care for it tooooo much, but that's my own pickiness. Anybody else should listen and judge for themselves.
- Rucianu on July 3, 2003
That aside...
The percussion is great. I agree with the previous posts about Dave B. (awesome music, awesome!) I wish I could get this remix with just the percussion and the chanting-voice-sound from 4:42 till 4:50.
Not too keen on the other synth stuff going on...though there was a point at 3:30 with the violins that I liked.
Good remix, trying something new. Can't say I care for it tooooo much, but that's my own pickiness. Anybody else should listen and judge for themselves.
- Rucianu on July 3, 2003
Wow, this is very different. A lot of different motifs coming
together, and the song just changes as it moves along. The
orchestral breakdown caught me by surprise. This reminds me in ways
of Pink Floyd's "Run Like Hell" with the panning and subtle melody.
I have to give mad props for making a good beat in 5/4. It's
typical for beats in 5/4 to sort of stutter, because they'll play a
rythm that's really more of a 4/4 groove with an extra beat. This
beat flows like Dave Brubeck's "Take Five". So, kudos for that
Adhesive Boy. I suppose I could go on about other aspects I like,
such as the contrast between sparse piano and complex drums, but
that'd be somewhat convolutted. I just love this piece.
:nicework:
- Kamikaze Noodle on July 3, 2003
:nicework:
- Kamikaze Noodle on July 3, 2003
Ew... sorry, if this is what new ideas sounds like, give me old
recycled stuff any time :P
- Psycrow on July 3, 2003
- Psycrow on July 3, 2003
I've also had Linoleum Stalactites since IMC-X, and for those that
are familiar with the IronMix Challenges, IMC-X was supposed to be
an advanced level remixing challenge, with a longer time limit and
higher expectations on the level and quality of
rearrangement.
It's one thing that only Adhesive_Boy and Suzumebachi were willing and able to create submissions for IMC-X, but AB's finished results were VERY impressive now, and I'm glad that this track made it's way on OCR.
Like DJP, Geoff and Sir Nuts all said, there's ton of variety here, and there's full, broad, professional sound. I'm not really able to articulate everything I liked about this track, since I'm no musician, but I definitely recommend you try this now, if you haven't already listened to it.
- Liontamer on July 3, 2003
It's one thing that only Adhesive_Boy and Suzumebachi were willing and able to create submissions for IMC-X, but AB's finished results were VERY impressive now, and I'm glad that this track made it's way on OCR.
Like DJP, Geoff and Sir Nuts all said, there's ton of variety here, and there's full, broad, professional sound. I'm not really able to articulate everything I liked about this track, since I'm no musician, but I definitely recommend you try this now, if you haven't already listened to it.
- Liontamer on July 3, 2003
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