Posted 2011-09-19, evaluated by the judges panel


Back on track! Next up we've got a revised version of Rexy & Brandon's organ/synth/guitar rock & metal mix off of The Sound of Speed; Bev writes:

"Rexy here again. Thank you for the feedback on the original Sound of Speed version; we've taken it to heart (well, at least I did) and have come together with a polished up mixdown. All information in regards to the arrangement process can be seen in the original decision thread. I admit, I was annoyed to see the track get pulled from the TBP list the first time around but the general feedback issued from the original submission was definitely a good foundation to improve on. Here I improved on the drum programming and humanized the organ part on the intro, while it was up to Brandon to take all the production concerns and address them here."

Judges were digging the arrangement even on the first go-round, but there were some production issues surrounding drums & rhythm guitar that were holding it back. I could have seen this being posted either way - it was certainly close - but I'm glad the changes were made, because I think this is the superior version of the mix. I'm gonna go a bit backwards here and start at the end of the track, because I really love how the lone solo synth is eventually left hanging precariously, out on a limb - it's unique, it works, and I dig it. But endings alone do not amazing mixes make; luckily, things intro strong too, with cymball roll into organ chords with a rise/fall organ arpeggio that sounds downright Castlevanian, before drums, bass, synth lead, and meaty elec. guitar drop at 0'18". Anyone who's played the first Sonic shouldn't have much trouble identifying the source, but I like what Rexy & Brandon have done with it - it's the type of theme that could have gone a couple different ways, but I really like the dynamic nature of this mix, the variety of lead instruments, and the cameos & attention to detail on the part-writing. halc's comment from the original submission did also point out some of the production issues, but those were fixed in this revision, so here was the good stuff:

"arrangement-wise, Rexy killed it. she always sneaks so many neat cameos into her pieces. this mix in particular is an unexpected change of pace given her previous works, with some nice original writing and solos by Brandon as well. excellent."

Ditto that - this arrangement is, for lack of a less carnivorous term, meaty. Which is to say, it's not only elaborate, it's also substantive: there's a lot of material, but it all has a place, flows naturally, and serves a common purpose. Great stuff from Rexy & Brandon - sorry it took so long to post, but the revision made it even stronger!

djpretzel

Discussion

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Black_Doom
on 2014-12-07 10:08:42

Hey, I didn't want to offend anyone! I just wanted to say this is awesome ;)

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Rexy
on 2014-12-07 09:05:02
it's one of Brandon's best tracks :nicework:

Eh? I wrote it, he performed and produced it :(

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Black_Doom
on 2014-12-07 08:29:23

Oh, what an awesome mix! It's very powerful. Actually, this is one of the best arrangements of Boss Theme. I also like SBZ and GG Boss Theme cameos, they really help to keep my attention. Heavy, pounding, with dirty organ, it's one of best tracks of this duo :nicework:

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Tuberz McGee
on 2011-12-25 19:13:44

The opening organ is immediately frighteningly good.

The drums kick in and everything takes a turn for the worse as I recall my childhood.

I remember how many times I died in this game. Oh god there were many.

The lead guitars are insanely good. The production is slightly off, which I think is great!

It gives that feeling of nostalgia for these battles. You had to think on your feet.

1:43 brings my favourite part. The lead is so catchy.

2:50 is the star of the show however. If I ever go back to those boss battles again, that's what I'll hear.

Either way. It's a great mix... I just wish it didn't bring back memories of me sucking. :(

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Mirby
on 2011-12-23 09:47:22

I thoroughly enjoy this mix. Nice collaboration!

Epic boss mixage right here. By the way, last time I checked you could find a midi version of this on VGMusic under Newly Submitted Files, and it’s by Rexy, so that’s pretty cool. It doesn’t take long for the source to start, and Brandon rocks the guitars in this. Main source at 0:54 in epic guitar. The percussion in this keeps a fast beat that makes me move to it. 1:41 brings Rexy in to the main picture with some jazzy guitar. 1:58 has Brandon take his own version of the mix, and it’s pretty sweet. It’s also a segway into Rexy’s awesome take with more guitar over it. 2:49 brings in the start to one of the more epic parts of the song, building and building until it explodes at 3:22 with more guitar source usage. 4:12 brings the start to the finale with rising notes that culminate in brief source usage that fades to silence.

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Bahamut
on 2011-12-07 19:28:45

The song sounds too discrete early on - it needed some more production work to smooth out those kinks. The background instrumentation creates a strange overall feel to the song which adds some mystery to the song. The song sort of meanders a lot to me. Not bad, but overall it could use a little more work IMO.

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Brandon Strader
on 2011-10-09 16:36:19

I didn't know because my headphones/monitors don't playback that kind of thing, it sounds normal for me but I recognize it as something I've had issues with for a long time because of that and I think I have it under control with modern tunes (which people probably wont hear for years) :-P

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Rexy
on 2011-10-09 09:21:33
While I appreciate the effort gone in to create a second Mix of this song (and I know how difficult it can be to mix a rock song altogether), it sounds way too over-compressed; whenever the kick drum gets played, it turns everything else down for a split second.

:whatevaa:

Yeah, when I first heard it through headphones the day after Brandon did the mixdown, my first thought was "is the compression going to form as a new flaw for the track?", but after several listens I managed to get used to it. Given that the judges didn't bring this up in the re-vote, I'm not really sure if it's a big deal as such.

I do however acknowledge that this irk is probably going to split people. But at the end of the day we both had fun working on it over the past year or so, and we will be sure to keep learning from the experiences we run into :)

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Not a Number
on 2011-10-09 09:04:28

While I appreciate the effort gone in to create a second Mix of this song (and I know how difficult it can be to mix a rock song altogether), it sounds way too over-compressed; whenever the kick drum gets played, it turns everything else down for a split second.

:whatevaa:

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OA
on 2011-09-20 11:14:30

Sure is meaty! Like, pork. mmmmm

Nice collab guys, I dig it. :-)

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Crulex
on 2011-09-20 10:17:11

Synthy Organ Metal FTW! The source of Robotnik's theme was always a bit dynamic and such, but the guitars and drums really bring it out here and I love how well it was elaborated. Took me a second listen through to catch Scrap Brain, but once I did, I loved every bit of the ReMix. 3:23 and on up to the ending was my favorite part. Awesome works guys.

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RDX
on 2011-09-20 05:30:47

All I can say is yes. The difference made is stunning. It went from being a pretty good track to a really awesome piece. Very tasty.

I'm a fan of the punchy drums, btw. They take away from the lead guitar a little bit, and while that should (probably) be a bad thing, I actually really like it.

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evktalo
on 2011-09-20 01:37:36

I'm very happy to see this revision get posted! A great track, as it was on the album. The arrangement is excellent, as before. The mixing is clearer than before, and I feel this makes the synth/organ/metal fusion work together much much better. In the old version the guitars sound a bit like they were recorded in a barrel. Here they have a slightly lo-fi "texture" I enjoy. And like I said, the guitars and organ/synth mesh together better. Overall the good stuff is more available to the ear, so to speak.

On the negative side, there is a somewhat uncomfortable "pumping" effect between bass drum and bass, which bothered me greatly on the first listen - it was physically uncomfortable to listen to on headphones. I guess it's there to let the bass drum punch through? On further listens, I'm getting used to it, but I still don't enjoy it. To go on with the negative, around 1:45-2:05 the timing of the rhythm guitars is noticeably off to me, but that's more of a nitpick, and overall the level of playing sounds good to me.

Great track - and also quite unique. I'm happy to hear this revised edition!

--Eino

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djpretzel
on 2011-09-19 23:42:18

What did you think? Post your opinion of this ReMix.

Sources Arranged (3 Songs, 2 Games)


Primary Game:
Sonic the Hedgehog (Sega , 1991, GEN)
Music by Masato Nakamura
Songs:
"Dr. Robotnik"
Additional Game:
Sonic the Hedgehog (Sega , 1991, SMS)
Music by Masato Nakamura,Yuzo Koshiro
Songs:
"Dr. Robotnik"
"Scrap Brain Zone"

Tags (8)


Genre:
Metal,Rock
Mood:
Aggressive
Instrumentation:
Electric Guitar,Organ,Piano,Synth
Additional:
Origin > Collaboration

File Information


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Sonic_the_Hedgehog_Hogtied_OC_ReMix.mp3
Size:
6,880,977 bytes
MD5:
fb84137d0efa3eda735a0b29fa478284
Bitrate:
192Kbps
Duration:
4:43

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