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However, while exhaustive and informative, the OP is a bit too long. This will discourage some folks half-way through.
Yeah, I think so too, to be honest. I'll definitely move the tracklist to a more visible spot, and I'll see what I can do about the novel-sized description. I'll try to move the important parts to the top to make sure we don't discriminate against people with an attention span of a senile goldfish. =D
Btw, why isn't this posted in 'Recruit and Collaborate' instead of 'Requests'?Actually, I posted the thread there at first. The moderators must have moved it. I don't know why, though. It just makes it harder for us to get more ReMixers on board.
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Great stuff, guys! I've added your claims to the tracklist. It's not legally binding or anything, so no worries if anyone at some point decides to drop a track etc.
I was really relieved when I saw that some people actually responded. I assumed the thread was just going to sink into oblivion like so many other threads before it. =D
Good to know that people are interested. Spread the word if you can! =)
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There, I've done it.
I've already 'adopted' three tracks to get things going, hopefully. I'm planning on keeping this thing alive even if I have to do it all by myself!
I'll try to update the thread with some promotional artwork (badges etc.) once I get the time. If anyone wants to pitch in, you're more than welcome to do it!
I will also try to contact a staff member to see if we can create a social group. Provided there's enough interest, of course.
Happy rummaging through dusty games that Time itself forgot! =D
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The PCReMix Initiative
Welcome, traveler!
But if you've come here to arrange the music of Zelda, Final Fantasy, Sonic, Super Mario etc., turn around now, vile demon! This is not the thread for you.
The Tracklist (moved to the top of the post for your convenience!)
If you want to 'claim' a track, just state the game and the song you'll be arranging. If possible, provide the link to the original. Some songs might not have official names since a lot of old games had no official soundtrack release. If that's the case, just describe where in the game one can hear the track.
Duplicate tracks are allowed, meaning that two ReMixers may choose to arrange the same song from the same game. However, we encourage diversity! You may end up being the only ReMixer with an arrangement from a specific game. How cool is that?
Make sure you do your very best with the arrangement! Our goal is to have as many posted ReMixes as possible.
List of claims
ReMixer - Track (Game) ~ State
Draconiator -
(Jill of the Jungle) ~ Substantial WIP (WIP thread)Archangel - Snow Theme (Heroes of Might and Magic III) ~ First WIP (WIP thread)
evktalo -
(Deathtrack) ~ First WIPGroboclown -
(Little Big Adventure) ~ First WIP (WIP thread)Groboclown, evktalo -
(Star Control 2) ~ First WIP (WIP thread)Archangel - Sea Theme (Heroes of Might and Magic II) ~ Claimed
Sockpuppet5 -
(Jazz Jackrabbit) ~ ClaimedSockpuppet5 - Medivo Theme/
(Jazz Jackrabbit I & II) ~ Claimedevktalo - Menu Theme/Mission 1 (Traffic Department 2192) ~ Claimed
Magellanic -
(Tyrian) ~ ClaimedBrandon Strader -
(Diablo 2) ~ ClaimedGuitArbitrary -
(Rescue the Scientists) ~ Claimedmk_97 -
(Lode Runner) ~ ClaimedIsolinearMoogle - SuvwI' van bom (Star Trek: Klingon) ~ Claimed
Esperado -
(Might & Magic V: The Dark Side of Xeen) ~ ClaimedArgle -
(Hocus Pocus) ~ ClaimedTrism -
(Command & Conquer) ~ ClaimedArchangel -
(Ultima VII: Serpent Isle) ~ ClaimedDj Mokram - Medley (Deus Ex) ~ Claimed
DusK - ??? (MechWarrior 2)
Amphibious - ??? (Warcraft 2) ~ Claimed
Mykah - ??? (Ultima Online) ~ Claimed
XPRTNovice - ??? (Quest for Glory 2) ~ Claimed
(First WIP - Substantial WIP - Almost done - Finished)
Signature BadgesFinished tracks
Archangel -
(Eye of the Beholder II) ~ Finished (WIP thread) [submitted: 28 January 2012]evktalo -
(Deus Ex) ~ Finished (WIP thread) [submitted: 12 October 2012]Magellanic -
(Tyrian) ~ Finished (WIP thread) [submitted]Flexstyle -
,(Starcraft) ~ Finished (Final version)I encourage you to wear these in your signatures to help spread the word. =)
(made by Doulifée)
(made by Doulifée)PC-game music, where art thou?
It has come to my attention that OC ReMix is seriously lacking in arrangements of old PC (DOS/Windows) game music. I noticed that the first time I came to this site in 2002 (give or take a year), and I have to say I was somewhat disappointed. It is now 2012 and the situation hasn't changed much, even though ten years have passed!
Let's take a look at some numbers, shall we? I'm a linguist, but even I know numbers do not lie.
The OC ReMix archive currently lists 21 DOS games with 29 ReMixes, and 70 Windows games with 100 ReMixes (which also include games like Minecraft, Skyrim, World of Warcraft and so on—those don't count for the purposes of this thread, because they're relatively new).And then there's SNES, which currently has 645 posted ReMixes. Chrono Trigger alone has 108 (!!!) Remixes—more than the whole Windows bundle, and almost four times as many as the poor DOS group.
This madness stops NOW!
Have you finally gone insane, Archangel?
Yes. But before you start trolling and going all Salem-witch-trials on me, let me tell you that this is not just a whining rant. I'm planning on doing something to remedy this horrible, horrible, shameful situation.
With the resurgence of abandonware, game remakes, and DOS emulators (DOSBox being the most prominent one), the demand for PC-game nostalgia has risen dramatically. Sadly, OC ReMix, despite all its brilliance, is not the place for PC gamers looking for musical memories.
It seems really strange to me that musicians here express almost no interest in remixing PC-game music. Haven't you people played any of those awesome games from the 90s?
Commander Keen, Hocus Pocus, Mortal Kombat, Blackthorne, Heretic, Hexen, King's Quest, Quest for Glory, Heroes of Might and Magic, Might and Magic, Betrayal at Krondor, Indiana Jones, Discworld, Ultima, Diablo, Master of Magic, Eye of the Beholder, Dungeon Master, Menzoberranzan, Ravenloft, Blood & Magic, Command & Conquer, Lords of Magic, Prehistorik, The Secret of Monkey Island, Flight of the Amazon Queen, Day of the Tentacle, Full Throttle, Sam & Max, The Legend of Kyrandia, Age of Empires, Civilization, Warcraft, Wacky Wheels, Ski or Die, Doofus. The list goes on and on and on.I refuse to believe there's no one here who has played at least one of these games and enjoyed it and its music enough to make at least one musical tribute to it. What should we do about this, you ask?
Fear not!
I hereby solemnly declare the birth of The PCReMix Initiative!
Ah, yes. What?
The PCReMix Initiative is not a project and has no overarching main theme. There are no genre or content restrictions whatsoever. There will also be no deadlines and no directors. The Initiative is just a way to encourage people who love old PC games to contribute something fresh to OC ReMix and make the site a little less console-centered and more PC-friendly. This should draw in a lot more game fans and expand the borders of the already massive OverClocked Empire.
For the love of Peter, how does it work?!
It's all so simple an idiot could have come up with it! (Hm ...)
This is never going to work, you buffoon!1) Choose an old, pre-2000s DOS/Windows game for which you have a special place in your heart, and start making a ReMix of a song from its soundtrack.2) Make a post in this thread "claiming" the track. Since we need at least a little bit of organization to make this work, I'll be the coordinator. I'll keep track of the ReMixers, their tracks, and their progress. Remember, there are no deadlines, but by signing up you make an unofficial promise to yourself and your PCReMix colleagues that you will contribute a ReMix (or sixteen) and help fight this apparently extremely persistent PC drought here at OC ReMix.
3) If you need help with your arrangement, mixing or mastering, your PCReMix buddies will help you. Post your WIP in the Workshop (just like a normal WIP), but make sure you add 'PCReMix' to your thread title. Why is this necessary? I've seen too many threads with obscure arrangements go unnoticed to just let fate decide whether you get some help with your ReMix or not. This way you'll at least get some feedback from some of your fellow PC fighters.
4) When you're done with the arrangement, submit the song to the OC ReMix Judges Panel. Make sure you mention that you made the track as part of The PCReMix Initiative, because we need the publicity.
5) Cross your fingers and hope for the best!
Perhaps not, but that's no way to start a revolution! I'm definitely not expecting any sudden, major trend overhauls with this little micro-organization, but I do hope OC ReMix will get at least a small dose of PC-nostalgia after we're done.
Why even bother? Everyone just listens to Zelda and Final Fantasy anyway!
That is not true!
The PCReMix Initiative has several goals:
- Provide more PC ReMixes to eager listeners;
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Give 'obscure' or forgotten DOS/Windows games a chance to shine once more;
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Expand the OC ReMix game archive (I hear the primarchs love ReMixes from obscure games!);
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Promote PC-game music to console-centered people;
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Encourage ReMixers to think outside the box and make a DOS/Windows ReMix instead of arranging Gerudo Valley or Schala's Theme for the umpteenth time;
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Give game fans who are currently making modern remakes of DOS games a reason to turn to OC ReMix for their revamped music needs; and
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Trailblaze a new type of cooperation here at OC ReMix. Project albums take years to show any results. Initiatives may produce new songs in a matter of days! And the best part is: they may never end!
What's in it for me?!
I'm not giving you money if that's what you think!
Nevertheless, you get the chance to honor a beloved game, its music, and its composer with an arrangement, contribute to the growth of this community by helping improve one of its weak spots, and be a part of what will hopefully be a productive group of friends with a common goal.
Why should I do YOU a favor, alien lunatic?!
You are not doing this for me. You are doing this for yourself and the game/music/composer you like. I'm not going to choose your game or your track, and I'm not going to play big bad boss or tell you how to make your arrangement.
I'm simply trying to jump-start an influx of DOS/Windows ReMixes. I've been hearing whispers all over these forums every now and then. "I might make a ReMix of this game someday." "I had so much fun playing this, and the music was incredible!" "I actually have an unfinished remix of this from way back. I might finish it some time."
This is your chance! Don't miss it!
- Provide more PC ReMixes to eager listeners;
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So I was just sitting in the dark in bed trying to decide what to post today, and I listened to Archangel's Crystal World remix.
God damn chills like you wouldn't believe.
I find this really funny for some reason. Thanks for the compliment, though!
If you're still accepting requests, I'd like to hear The Place I'll Return to Someday. =)
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Also, what if someone casts Life 3 on OA?
I haven't written any reviews yet, but I'll get to it as soon as possible.
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Thanks a lot for sharing this! It's perfect for a rainy day like today.
I hope the singer gets into OCReMixing. You can never have enough vocalists like these. =D
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Aaaa!
I'm a little frustrated and I need a little moral support. Where better to get it than here, among my trusted minions?
My Return to Forever track is bringing my computer to its knees, which is really annoying because I have to mix each section separately, in a separate file. And I can only work with two files at any given time.
Does anyone have any tips on mixing a really crowded instrumental part? I've tried using equalizers to push some of the instruments into the background, but that sometimes results in a rather empty, subdued soundscape, which is the exact opposite of what I'm trying to achieve. I feel like an amateur turtle.
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Thanks for the support, Cash!
I hate to toot my own horn, but my Prelude arrangement just passed the panel and I'm very happy about it! It's my favorite arrangement to date (among my own tracks, of course) and I'm really glad it'll get posted someday.
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OK, I've listened to it at least three times now and I have to say I'm really impressed by the samples! Except for some of the parts where the trumpets and the violins change notes quickly, it sounds incredibly realistic. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least a little envious. =D And considering you did this as a little side project in addition to your regular full-time job, it's magnificent. Again, thank you so much. I'll make sure I spread the word!
Also, would it be OK if I sent you a private message? I have a few questions about the instruments you used in some parts. =)
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I can't believe this is actually happening!
I'm downloading the album as we speak. I'd love to listen to it right NOW, but I have an exam in about half an hour and need to leave for the university in five minutes or so.
I'll comment on this later, but for now let me just say that this is an awesome idea! I'm really happy this awesome soundtrack is getting some love.
Thank you so much for this!
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Welcome, Claire!
I would love to collaborate with you on a song or two. You have an incredible voice and I hope we get to hear a whole lot more from you here on OCReMix!
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This is cool! It definitely sounds jazzy. It reminds of the background music you hear in movies when people are having dinner at a fancy restaurant. =D
However, you could improve this by making it a little less rushed, especially in the beginning. Let your chords resonate a little while before playing the accompanying notes. You should definitely take it a little slower between 0:05 and 0:15. The sample itself is not that bad, but that part makes it sound mechanical. Also, so many quick arpeggios are more of a harp thing. =D
Try making the arpeggios just a little slower and hold the chords down a little longer to make it sound more realistic. I usually mess around with the tempo settings to do that.
Other than that, this was very enjoyable! I really hope you finish it as an original track!
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My heart was overwhelmed with joy when I saw that someone posted a remix from the Ultima series! And a great video, too! I have to share this with my friends.
Do you think you could maybe post a link to the mp3? I'd love to have this track on my playlist. It's really relaxing!
Och dessutom är du svensk! Bra jobbat! =D
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-reeeeeeeally looking forward to Immoral Melody and Dark Messenger remixes in particular, haha- The most I've seen of those 2 songs elsewhere is rock renditions.
Hehehe, I'm the one who made that mix. =D Thanks for the support. I hope I live up to your expectations! =D
I've only heard some of the songs from the album, but I think it's going to be a real treat!
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Hey everyone!
I'll get on my final track as soon as possible. I would have done it sooner, but I moved to Sweden about a month ago and had a bunch of papers to take care of--I still do, in fact.
I have some save states and a ZSNES emulator if that helps. I've finished the game about a year and a half ago. I can't record the gameplay though. I haven't got any software to do that, and even if I did, I really don't have the time to do it. Sorry. =D
Good luck with your mixes, you all!
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Wizards printed these checklist cards you can put into your deck to represent double-sided cards.
http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/isd/g4cc1x3ges_en.jpg
Once they come in to play (or 'enter the battlefield' in today's lingo), you play with the actual double-sided cards.
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Yup, transform can work both ways sometimes. Actually, it usually does, only a few exceptions are one-sided transformations.
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I probably won't be able to attend since I'm in Europe and I can't really stay up until 2 AM.
Sorry everyone! I hope you have fun!
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I'm up for it too! I'm a Magic freak!
Had I but known sooner that OCR people play it too!
Oh, the HUMANITY!
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Tyrian! That's great!
I was actually planning on doing an orchestral arrangement of this same theme. It's great to hear a Tyrian remix here. The game definitely doesn't get enough attention.
I really liked the electronic parts, and the inclusion of the game's sound effects was a nice touch!
The drums do seem like they need some more work, but I'm not an expert on that, so I can't give you any advice.
However, I can suggest that you substitute the violin instrument with something else. Judging by the sound of it, it doesn't have the proper attack for such a fast-paced melody. It's good for long notes that accompany the main melody, though.
I hope that helps! I wish you'd make the mix a little longer, though. I think it still has a lot of potential.
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I'm one of the 3300 subscribers, haha. =D
Great job! I do appreciate metal, and I always look forward to your arrangements. I hope you'll submit something to OCReMix too!
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Bossanova!
I love this! I especially liked the piano and the percussion. It's really enjoyable, thanks a lot for arranging it!
I'm definitely downloading this and putting it on my dinner party playlist. XD
Good job!
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A great beat and a very enjoyable listen! =D
I'm a failure at mixing, but I did notice a couple of things I would change if I were you.
I'd pan the guitar a little more to the right. If you're listening to the song with your headphones, it's a little strange to hear most of the stuff in the first part of the song through your left headphone.
Also, I'd use less reverb on the piano. All the other instruments sound more like they're played in a small room, so the piano sticks out a little too much. Then again it might be the samples you're using.
Otherwise, the song sounds fine to me. I hope you finish it! I'd love to hear the final version. =D
The PCReMix Initiative ~ Let's put the PC in OC ReMix!
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I want to stress that I don't want to argue with you and that I respect your decision, but I fail to see how this thread is so radically different from all the "Guitar player wanted!" or "Looking for artist!" threads in R&C. We're recruiting people and we're planning on collaborating in the WIP-forums as far as feedback is concerned.
At the end of the day, it doesn't really matter where the thread is. It'll just take a little longer for people to find us this way.
Sure! Just tell me when you've decided so I can add you to the list!
Agreed. If it's an old PC game, go for it.
Well, a lot of DOS games were also available for the Amiga (including Eye of the Beholder II, which I've claimed), so cross-platform games are allowed, as long as they're more PC-oriented. Rayman was originally a Playstation game, but if the PC soundtrack is different from the Playstation one, you're more than welcome to remix it here!