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As for CCG's, played MtG waaaaayyy back in the day, and stopped playing after Ice Age. I realized how silly they were at that point (anyone with more money and time to invest in collection will whip your ass every match,) and haven't really tried any others since.
That's the problem with the tourney/non-casual scene. But, they do a pretty decent job of keeping things reined in these days via the different formats. You can go to a competitive event where everyone spends the same amount and builds decks there, and it's a level playing field. Of course, you need to know how to put together a deck that way, so it really isn't quite level- but it isn't about the money at that point. But, if you're trying to play constructed competitively, yeah, you're gonna need to drop a lot of cash. Hence why I don't play competitively.
Course I still have managed to drop a lot of cash, but it's just a trade-off. Instead of a weekly movie night or what, we usually have MTG nights, which over time costs the same amount- sometimes more, sometimes less, but thus far I've been happy spending the amount I have compared to the entertainment I've gotten out of it, so I'm happy. I wouldn't call it silly outright, though, I guess is my point- it isn't entirely about money, though again you do need to be willing to buy some things.
Somebody was saying they were thinking of getting into either YGO or MTG- I haven't played YGO paper, though I've played a GBA cart of it just to see what it was like. From what I can tell, I'd definitely stick with MTG. YGO is less complicated, but it feels like less of a game to me as a result- but maybe things have changed with that. I used to view YGO as sort of an entry-level MTG but it costs just as much as MTG and I don't know if it gives as much in return yet. But that's just IMO. The GBA game was fun, though.
But YGO is less complex, and MTG results in a lot more rules stickiness- but, deviant that I am I actually enjoy figuring that stuff out. If there was money in it, I'd try to get judge certified, but I don't think I could do anything locally so it isn't yet worth my time.
And I'm with whoever said they vowed to avoid Warhammer- for me, though, there's not even a real temptation (thankfully). I don't have much disposable income (further proof that one can do MtG on a limited budget), and I am definitely not going to get into painting figures, though I admit some cool results can come of that. But for me, just can't do it. The collector in me dug Mage Knight, though, what with the work already done.
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I haven't seen it but I thought it was from the campy genre.
Was just going to say the same thing- I actually went to see it for the hell of it. It definitely comes off as campy- if you went in expecting that kind of silliness, I think the movie was a lot of fun.
If you went in expecting a serious action/thriller- what the hell's the matter with you? It's called Snakes on a Plane!
Anyway, I think between straight spoofs and campy movies I tend to prefer camp. But now and then, a spoof is good.
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My brother tried to get me to play with him using that argument--"we roll less and not too often!"--but as far as I'm concerned, if you're rolling dice, using stats, numbers, all of that, you're not really roleplaying, you're just...playing a game.
Hm. I suppose that's true, but if you really want to roleplay, you're pretty much just going to act, aren't you?
For my part, I don't know that I ever actually roleplayed. I had a character and all that, and I had a sense of the personality of the character, but it was mostly just an excuse to be silly. I don't think I could do it with a serious group.
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I will confess in one of the "___ Movie" movies (I was going to say "film" to make the sentence flow better, but I just can't bring myself to call it that), I think it was Date Movie- the trailer had a bit where a father was saying that if the kid hurt his daughter-
"You'll take me down to Chinatown?"
"No, I'll bust you in the head with a pipe."
That was funny. But I don't know if a few good moments justify 90 minutes and 10 dollars. I think they've milked it for far more than it was worth already.
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"I bend down and look through the keyhole."
"Okay, you get a splinter in your eye because there is no fucking keyhole."
D&D with my brother and his friends was awesome; though I abhor the game now. Roleplaying with numbers is boring.
I believe that last is the philosophy behind a lot of the aforementioned WW games like Vampire: The Masquerade. They make you roll for a variety of things out of necessity, but the basic rule is if the DM thinks your character can do it, there's no need to roll; you just do it. This way you don't get sucked out of the game to add up dice rolls every 10 seconds.
What's interesting to me is that when you look at D&D a little bit, it's a lot clearer how VG RPGs came together- essentially doing the exact same things, just in the background.
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God, those D&D games sound so wicked.
Too bad it's just my and my younger brother over here D:
No way we could afford all the books if we wanted to play anyway...
Just for kicks though, if we wanted to try it, what would we need to get?
It depends on the game- some, the White Wolf stuff in particular (Vampire, Mage, etc), you'd be all set with a core book. D&D, it can be a little more complicated I think- I'll let somebody that knows better point you in the right direction. Cost can be a pain- I know they sell most in pdf form now, so it's a little cheaper I think.
I've never personally run a game, though I have a couple Vampire books kicking around. I played that a bit at college, but we had an inexperienced DM so he let us get away with murder, literally. My character was more or less singlehandedly responsible for the slaughter of an entire village. Good times!
There wasn't a reason for it, just because he thought it was funny. Yeah, he was kind of a dick.
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There are a lot of grey area movies like Tremors- it seems more like camp than a direct spoof, though. Spoof, to me, implies obvious source material. There's no mistaking what Spaceballs or Austin Powers are derived from. Tremors, while campy at times, seems to be something else. A very enjoyable something else, though.
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Just like to say I'm very pleased that we are in agreement on those* movies (you are not supposed to spoof comedies!)
It gives me a spark of hope for mankind. A cold, pathetic spark, but a spark nonetheless.
*Scary Movie, Date Movie, etc- this is on a new page now so I figured I should clarify what I meant.
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I demand that people share their tabletop experiences! Retarded MtG moments, insane dice rolls, whatever; lets here'em, folks.
K.
One D&D session, we were for some reason I no longer remember, trying to climb down this cliff onto a ledge far below. There was a door on the ledge.
We had a rope. Our party consisted of a half-elf (me), a half-orc, a halfling bard/gnome (played by the little brother of the DM, much younger than any of us present). There may also have been one more elf. That was all for the purpose of this event.
So, we all begin to descend the rope, hoping it doesn't break. I make it down pretty easily. The half-orc, somehow, makes it down fine. Then we come to the halfling bard (the little brother of the DM, it's worth mentioning). He begins climbing down and, of course, the rope breaks on the lightest member of our party. He plummets something like 50 feet and barely survives, comes within an inch of his life. We revive him, and all survey our position. Nowhere to go but through this door, since our rope is no more. The half-orc, being an assertive type, reaches for it.
"I stand to the left of the door," I discreetly say.
"I stand to the right of the door," the elf says.
The bard says nothing. Perhaps he is still a bit dazed after his recent brush with death. Pity.
The half-orc opens the door and our DM kindly informs him that he should roll. He also informs the bard of the same. They do so. We are already beginning to laugh again. Well, we being everyone except for the bard.
The half-orc, apparently the most agile member of his race ever, dodges magnificently to avoid the giant-ZOMG! fireball that was tripped when he opened the door.
The bard? Well, do you really need me to tell you? A bit bruised, a little less limber than usual, he of course fails to dodge and is hit in the face by said fireball. Hilarity ensues.
A bad day for a bard, all in all.
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ed;214429']Ashamed to admit it' date=' but I have a pretty kick-ass Pokemon deck sitting in my room with cards from older and newer series. I haven't gotten to use it, though, because official tournaments don't allow cards from some older sets. *Sigh...* one day, one day.[/quote']I never played the pokemon CCG, pretty much just magic for me.. I vastly prefer casual environments to tourneys, though. I build primarily the way you mention here- cards from all over. I don't use cards from the banned list so they're all legacy format officially, but playing those tourneys you just come up against crazy broken combo decks or whatever else, and I'm much more of a play for fun type (I'm a johnny/timmy, if anyone knows what that means..
), though I try to make them competitive.Anyway, the downside of all these kinds of games is they require a group of people to get together with regularly to enable you to have any real fun... I've been lucky in that I actually have 2 groups of friends, total of about 8 people, that are into it so I'm not usually wanting for a game. Downside of THAT is that I've spent a hideous amount of money on fancy paper...
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Okay, I know you're out there. This many geeks in once place, you have to be.
You know why this comic is funny.
You may even own a few d20s. Or be thinking about buying a "booster pack" of something right now.
It's okay- you can admit it. This is a safe place. And we can all let the healing begin.
My own confession:
While not big into the whole D&D stuff, I have been involved in it a couple times, though never seriously. We always ended up doing ridiculous things and laughing until it hurt. I am moderately into MtG, though, as friends getting into it the past year rekindled the interest I had in the game in high school. A friend persuaded me to try out Mage Knight, although the game is pretty much dead now so we only played it a handful of times.
Anyway, I was just curious who else out here was into the various forms of gaming that don't involve burning out our retinas, and what your hidden vices were. So, I guess what I'm trying to say is... Roll for initiative, monkeyboy!
...Or boys, as the case may be.
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I like this genre as long as "Scary Movie" and its legion of inbred cousins are not included.
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You want to hear something awesome?
Look up Babylon Mystery Orchestra.
By way or warning, it's probably my least favorite in my nearly 1000 discs, just to emphasize how much I do not like it. I own it through only the blackest, most foul deed of trickery and deceit, but regardless, I am glad I do, in a terrible way.
To be fair, it's really just the guys voice that makes it stand out. When I hear him, all I can think of is that "goth" sketch from SNL with the kid in his garage getting beat up by his jock brother. Seriously.
If anyone hasn't checked out Avenged Sevenfold's last album City of Evil, I highly recommend it. Although, there is no definitive storyline to follow, the entire album as a whole unfolds like an epic. Subsequently, I learned about it by reading Akira Yamaoka's blog.Yeah, I like these guys. They aren't the best songwriters ever- that is, while they play very well and write good parts, sometimes I feel like the songs aren't the most distinctive and can tend to run together (but that's not really a problem when you're looking for something "epic" is it?). But, it's fun and very nice to hear good technical work in popular rock again.
Couple others to point out:
Echolyn - Mei The whole disc is one song, doesn't get much more epic than that. It's quite a listen, and while these guys seem to be little known, I really like what I've heard.
Neal Morse - Testimony a note on this one, it's the primary songwriter/singer from Spock's Beard, who has gone solo since converting to Christianity and this album is about his conversion. If that subject matter would get to you, you won't enjoy the album- but, it really is a good album on its own merits. The same kind of prog/pop Spock's Beard put out, essentially. Also, Mike Portnoy from Dream Theater handled the drum duties so can't go wrong there.
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I like this thread.
Me too, but I'm beginning to think that my wallet doesn't.
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Ayreon - The Universal Migrator (album - just amazing)
Is that the one that starts with some business about resurrecting backwards in time or something? "No one has ever ___ this far before..."?
I only own Human Equation, and while I liked what I heard on Migrator musically the lyrics were tough to get by sometimes. Then again, Human Equation has that "Motion personified alpha" line so I guess one just makes peace with it, eh?
EDIT: Want to emphasize in my previous post- the Dream Theater album is my own "must own" of that list- I think they're all worth the price of admission, but that is arguably the best album of their career, and I feel describing it as a masterpiece isn't an overstatement. There's a live DVD of the entire album available that is also worthwhile- if for nothing else than to see that they really can pull it off live (though Live at Budokan is a much better DVD production).
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Dream Theater - Metropolis Part 2: Scenes From a Memory (Part 1 can be found as a 10 minute track on their album "Images & Words")
Spock's Beard - Snow
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (this is a headache to figure out, but has to be mentioned when you talk about concept albums)
Trans-Siberian Orchestra, while primarily doing Christmas stuff, always does concept albums with storylines. They have 3 Christmas albums:
Christmas Eve & Other Stories
The Christmas Attic
The Lost Christmas Eve
Also 1 non-Christmas disc, called "Beethoven's Last Night." A bit melodramatic at times, but good stuff nonetheless. Probably more to come, but this was off the top of my head.
Ayreon - The Human Equation - Prog album about a guy that gets into a car wreck. Different singers portray different characters while he's in a coma and the story comes out. Good music all around- features the singers from Dream Theater, Opeth, Saviour Machine (obscure band specializing in epic stuff), among others.
Alice Cooper - The Last Temptation I don't know that I'd call it epic, but it is rock and does have a storyline.
Oh, and also (done after this one...):
Opeth - Ghost Reveries Apparently a concept album, though I haven't looked into the story of it yet. Only got it recently.
Coheed & Cambria - Good Apollo I'm Burning Star IV, Vol I Also a recent purchase. Hope this doesn't get me branded as OMGEMOFGT. I do enjoy the album so far, though. Oddly enough, a lot of their lead guitar lines remind me of the Minibosses- I think it's something in the production. They draw comparisons to Rush particularly for the guys voice. Don't know what the hell the story is about, but there certainly seems to be one.
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Fixed for great justice.
Now there's a tattoo.
EDIT: You know, I always liked that line a lot better than "All your base"- loved the Phoenix Wright reference.
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Let's try to keep thing a bit more civil here people. I don't want this thread to get deleted like the other ones.
Could somebody clear up something for me? The word "abuse" has been thrown around a lot lately. I'm just a lowly lurker, so I might not be familiar with the "abuse" going on all over the place. I am familiar with the comments in response to the sidebar, but that situation was dealt with many moons ago. From my browsing of the forums, I have not seen anything that could warrant the deletion of an entire forum. I know that the mods would have dealt with this abuse and that they could probably cite specific examples to clarify what this abuse is like. I feel that the community would be more understanding if they could see that exact reason why their beloved forum was deleted.
Right now, "abuse" just seems like a term coined to be an excuse for deletion. Kinda like the term "weapons of mass destruction."
I was wondering the same thing (Sir, our intelligence says that there are weapons of mass destruction in this forum...
)- I am curious to see a few specifics on what the abuse in question was. I'm not questioning if it existed, I'm just curious to see it. -
There were plenty of newbies who got respect for how they posted and did things, and there are plenty of regulars who still catch shit to this day, despite how long they've been here or how much they've posted. How a given newbie (or poster in general) acted was the main source of potential flaming and put downs over the years. Not post counts, and not join dates.
Of course, that's just my opinion based on my own experiences.
I second this. I was never that deep in Unmod, but I don't recall ever getting flamed- and hell, I wasn't all that constructive. I goofed around in the photo caption threads, etc, but also in the occasional +1/postwhore thread, because it was fun now and then. But I didn't do it to up my count to gain respect- just for the hell of it because it was there, basically.
It seems that this is all besides the point, though- the major problem being discussed is people being treated badly when they were new. Maybe instead of banning a type of thread because of the psychological reasons it may have ended up degrading the forum over the years, we could try saying "Hey guys, don't be dicks, huh?"
Of course, this sort of thing will only be an issue a long time from now. Before one can insult a newcomer, there have to be people that aren't newcomers. We'll all be n00bs at OT for a while.
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As I just attempted to explain in my TLDR post
...We all want to keep it within reason. The "un-useful" thing isn't a problem in and of itself; it's that too much junk encourages people to post for the sole purpose of increasing their postcount. And that's what caused all those icky things I listed above, which resulted in UnMod's end.
That is understandable. However, I think it's important to remember that "productive" and "useful," as they pertain to threads, are relative terms. After all, I can see how one could deem PPR, Gendisc and the upcoming OT, as utterly useless and non-productive and be correct.
As Coop pointed out, it is difficult to define where certain threads fall- it would be a shame to throw the baby out with the bathwater- to employ a tired cliche.
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While it's good that the discussion is ongoing, some aspects of it are more constructive than others.
Unmod is gone- I'd be willing to place a large bet (on myself in round 1) that it ain't coming back. And even if it was restored, miraculously, resurrected before our eyes- it wouldn't be the same. Because of the people that have already jumped ship entirely, or decided they'll never come back, etc. Also, the aforementioned fear of losing it all again is major. What happened made a very real rift in this place as a whole.
So, how to fix that? I don't know if you really can. You can't rebuild what Unmod was. It's gone forever. Offtopic will be a different place, and maybe, over time, it can attain some of the things that made the deletion of Unmod such a sad event.
I'm going to try and get involved in it when it shows up, and I'm very interested to see what develops. It won't be Unmod, but it will hopefully become its own place, if it is allowed to do so. I enjoyed the random silliness that Unmod had, but regrettably I never got involved in the deeper aspects. I wish now I had, but maybe I can contribute to something like that in OT when it arrives. I do hope that things like photo caption contests, random image threads, etc. are allowed to thrive.
Anyway, I think we need to move from saying what was wrong about this- we all know that. Nothing can be done to fix it. All we can try and do is aspire to make OT a place with a history of its own, and ensure somehow that what happened to Unmod doesn't happen again. Even so, it will be a while before people can forget that they lost a part of the net they considered home. That doesn't just get better overnight, even with apologies, new forums or whatever else. It takes time, more than anything, and that's what was really lost and can never be replaced- the time people spent making Unmod what it was, good and bad. If you notice, a lot of these posts look something like euologies. That says quite a bit.
Now an exception to what I said about the complaints- part of the process of getting past it, for some, may be saying how much the deletion sucked- then so be it, I say, do what you have to. But if it's just pointing out what was wrong for the sake of saying how it was wrong- well, I think we all realize that errors were made, on both sides.
Anyway, I just think we need to look forward and be constructive. This post is just to say what I think I'll do and how I'm feeling about it, not really to give much advice- it isn't my place to speak for anyone else. I hope OT can be a place I want to spend time in, and I hope I can help make it that kind of place- but we won't know for sure until we see what's allowed and what isn't, and who will be there. So until then I'll just wait and see. I will say, though, that I hope to see many of you there.
Perhaps even the shtymodjdgfgts.
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...Those pictures are really infuriating, because it's so obvious what Pixie was thinking when she posted those pictures. Same goes for everyone who crowded around DJP when he deleted UnMod. They just had to rub it in, didn't they?
Wonderful.
Yeah, it definitely... Well, whatever. As for it all being in good fun- considering how strongly people felt about that forum, very poor judgment if it was meant as anything other than a big middle finger. If that is what it was, I'm not sure if this is a place I want to be. Don't know if I'd be welcome at .org, since (as I keep saying) I was never a strong presence in Unmod. But in any event, I need to think about whether or not I'll be continuing to post around here- not that it matters, since I assume I don't contribute anything.
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Well, didn't wait 10 hours for a wii just to have 2 friends on the thing... So, here you go. But while I'm at it, might as well add the ones from my DS titles, too- even though most of my DS time right now is spent playing through Phoenix Wright again...
Wii: 8952 1994 2705 1342
Mario Kart: 073074 334652
Metroid Prime Hunters: 2191 1517 9204
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Great mix, my only complaint is that Ryan8Bit already made an equally awesome version of the same track.
Which can be found here.
However these two mixes are quite distinctive, and really the only thing that's the same is some source material and the basic genre. There's a lot of differences, enough for me, certainly. The feel is very different, for one. I think this one goes more places, as well. Chances are if you liked Ryan's, though, you'll also enjoy this.
Keep in mind, it would kinda defeat the purpose of this site to have only one mix per piece.
Now, my thoughts on this one... I usually don't post reviews, but I thought I'd add a good word... I enjoyed it, a good rock piece. I'll take not the next time I see Spinning Images come up!
EDIT: On the ending... I wouldn't say it was too sudden. The mix doesn't lend itself to a gradual stop - maybe a long fade out could have worked, but given the driving nature it made sense to do it full out til the end, I think.
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I really liked what they did for Sidewinder- the long acoustic, almost classical outro. I think that might be my favorite part of the album.