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I need help! I just did Grandio Espada, and its a soundtrack I am on the fence about a lot of songs. If I rate it the way I want, it becomes the second best album by index and 3rd by Eval... Also I have 3 SS songs, but the game is fairly unknown, so its hard to really say they should be SS, but that implies popularity has a say vs quality... and if I take just those to S the album drops down. Further more there are 6 songs I don't really feel on a personal taste level, so while it already has a high quality score, its score could be also be being devalued a bit by bias... as well as over valued. In short, I'm looking for feedback on any song with a +T or -T next to them. Any further opinions are more than welcome as well. The soundtrack is listed 3 times near the bottom of the document. Lets for the sake of simplicity only debate the first entry (the one in blue) also using the short soundtrack with 25 songs... not the 127 all expansions soundtrack. (also note it only really has 23 songs because 1 is a duplicate and for some reason the author put in a bonus track from outlaw star (wtf?)) Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eRmXzG2gozNRcG2xcZTpEDYuEQtTmke0f15Ew7kBC64/edit?usp=sharing Soundtrack PS: I also swear Barracks is a real song they "borrowed" from actual classical music. But I'm not sure... If its a clever rework If it is I would need to find the original song and consider if its been sufficiently changed enough to count. UPDATE: I have more or less sorted it out at this point but feedback is always welcome

That explains why i couldn't find it lol.

Ill have to check that out, my eve corp showed me this plug.dj thing.

Yeah I am in it during the day. I'm trying to promote it though a few sources, but yeah, idk, maby ill park a DJ in it at home so it has something playing in it at least at all times? I'm not really sure the best way to get something like this off the ground. Also if were talking about the same other channel they also have a list of banned artists, and bitched at me for playing a remix saying that the channel is only for OST, I pointed out that the rules say OST, remix, cover etc. To which they replied "no not really". Then like 2 minutes after that another one was like "well your video's were unrelated to the music so it doesn't matter" -.- The 3 remixes I played were:

Its back up! Well its any genre, so long as its video game related Also its not officially OC-Remix's room. Not that it couldn't be. Its just a room I made after searching around and finding that other video game related rooms were things like "OST only" or "No dubstep, no the following artists x,y,z, no songs without videos, and more arbitrary nofun rules." So I wanted to make a room with less restrictions and dedicated to remixes rather than OST or OST + remix.

Still working on it, here you can view the spreadsheet. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eRmXzG2gozNRcG2xcZTpEDYuEQtTmke0f15Ew7kBC64/edit?usp=sharing ill write an entry about each soundtrack soon. Once I get a first 10 (should be today)

Annnnnd of course the day I post it the site goes down for maintenance -.-

I made a Plug DJ room you guys may be interested. https://plug.dj/video-game-covers-and-remixes What is Plug DJ? It't a chat/streaming thing with terrible art. But it lets you make playlists via youtube/soundcloud and "DJ" that playlist out to other people in the room. Anyone can DJ just by having a playlist. Once there is more than 1 DJ it will cycle through each DJ's playlist round robin style so its great for sharing songs. Its free, no advertisements and I personally don't stand to gain anything sending you guys there. Also they have never emailed me... Allthough I may have associated my school email and I never check that... But I'm pretty sure I used my main email and I've never gotten spammed.

Found it ._. it was in the User CP

On this work computer every thread is backwards, starting with the newest post at the top, and the oldest post on the last page, its very confusing. How do I set it back to normal?!

awesome thanks! sorry I meant to follow up on this sooner but we had an insane work week last week, and we are still cleaning up this week. So I haven't had time.

I could, I'm already doing it mostly in a basically excel sheet. But theres really minimal math involved... But i could probly make a poll type submittable format... Idk, you will see some of my stuff later on how Im breaking it down I was going to get to a 10 count then do a first batch. Also im purposely targeting candidates that would be in the top... PS: Contribution score is a terrible name for that system so if anyone has a better name throw it out there . Again this is 1 random persons general opinion so feel free to disagree its just for fun anyway. PPS: After going through about half of FFX soundtrack... Im starting to think I went WAY too hard on Phantom Brave. lol.

Well I dont plan on arguing with anyone so..

Arbitrarily based on person taste Cause I don't have a lot to do at work. Ill post some charts once I get a few of them done. I didn't wanna spam posts so I was going to do like a batch post once I get a few done. Popularity is not really a factor. . . Other than in some extreme cases I'm not going to over-rule general consensus. Example, even if I hated the Zelda over-world theme on a personal level (I don't hate it but just for fun pretend I do)... I'm not going to argue that its anything other than SS due to its special case of extreme popularity. This is all just for fun anyway and shouldn't be taken too seriously, or as anything other than one persons opinion. No one can rank anything free of Bias either, but I'm trying very hard to leave that out of it.

Okay so, Here is how the system works. Quality Index: The songs are ranked by tier like characters in a fighting game. Rank (graded on a bell Curve) SS <- Legendary songs like Zelda Overworld most games don't have this. S <- Amazing tracks that will stick with you for years after playing Few games have these, and usually only 1-2. A <- Excellent all rounders, the stages you look forward to. Most games have 1-3 of these. B <- Above average songs that elevate above the norm. C <- Basic solid tracks that you may not remember... But don't upset the ears. D <- Sub-Par songs, usually filler tracks that perhaps aren't really bad, but out of the context of their intended use dont hold up musical merit. E <- Tracks that are bad, they stand out as being poorly produced or musically flawed. F <- awful tracks that are bad enough that even detract from the overall fun of the game. X <- Tracks with either no musical merit, or aren't really songs, sometimes just a 5 second jingle for victory, tracks here are basically music, but not full songs. (the death music from sonic 1, or the stage ending to mario world when you get the flag) Each rank is evaluated into the "Score" Of the album somewhat like a racing poll works. SS +10 points S +7 Points A +5 B +4 C +3 D +2 E +1 F +0 X Not Counted toward score or average. The average is the total score divided by the total number of songs. This means albums are ranked from 0-10 with 0 and 10 being near impossible. The average for most should fall around 3.14 Since SS rank songs are so rare that average is based on F-S which is what most games will have since generally most games soundtracks that end up remixed in the first place have a few S rank songs. If you include SS rank that expected average goes up to 4... But like... There may only be.... 10-20 SS rank songs in existence. (Example, Zelda Overworld). Evaluation Score: This score is meant to combine the total quality index multiplied by the SS-A points... Effectively factoring in the overall quality of the whole album... by the total points of the best tracks. This meant to help combat issues that come up from edge case albums. Example, Zelda has like all superb tracks but it only has 6 tracks... So it looks better on paper because it has no filler music if you do just an average score... But if you do it by the total SS~A points it has a very LOW score. This calculation is meant to place Zelda (and other games) on a adjusted index. SS~A Points: This is the total points contributed by the games SS S and A songs combined. Naturally larger albums with many good tracks will have more of this but longer albums are almost all subjected to having more filler tracks as well. Thus the need for an evaluation score.

So I have been around games and game music all my life. I work in the game industry (not as a musician) and for fun, I decided to come up with a ranking system for OST. In this post I'm going to maintain the list of OST In order of Rank, and in the Next post, I will explain how the system works. Individual sound track reviews will be posted after that as I do them. Feel free to comment, suggest OST, complain Just have fun with it. Spreadsheet Link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eRmXzG2gozNRcG2xcZTpEDYuEQtTmke0f15Ew7kBC64/edit?usp=sharing +T Means I May have over-rated the song due to personal taste -T Means I may have under-rated the song due to personal taste -N Is Nostalgia warning! Song has been rated lower than you expect, even though I have fond memories it does not mean the song is good. +N Nostalgia may have influenced this rating to be higher than it should be. OST Rank Chart: By Evaluation Calculation (SS~A*QI) Rank: Game | Quality Index | SS~A Sum Points | Evaluation | 1: Chrono Trigger | 4.38 | 206 | 578 | 2: Final Fantasy X** | 3.75 | 109 | 409 | 3: Sonic 3 & Knuckles | 4.74 | 80 | 379 | 4: Streets of Rage 2 | 4.9 | 72 | 352 | 5: Pokemon R/B/Y/G | 4.44 | 151 | 350 | 6: Castlevania 3 | 4.78 | 70 | 334 | 7: Phantom Brave | 4.11 | 65 | 267 | 8: Megaman 3 | 4.79- | 53 | 253 | 9: Mario 3 | 4.22- | 55 | 232 | 10: Zelda (nes)* | 6- | 25 | 150 | By SS~A Sum (All A, S, SS Song points added up) Rank: Game | Quality Index | SS~A Sum Points | Evaluation | 1: Chrono Trigger | 4.38 | 206 | 578 | 2: Pokemon R/B/Y/G | 4.44 | 151 | 350 | 3: Final Fantasy X** | 3.75 | 109 | 409 | 4: Sonic 3 & Knuckles | 4.74 | 80 | 379 | 5: Streets of Rage 2 | 4.9 | 72 | 352 | 6: Castlevania 3 | 4.78 | 70 | 334 | 7: Phantom Brave | 4.11 | 65 | 267 | 8: Mario 3 | 4.22- | 55 | 232 | 9: Megaman 3 | 4.79- | 53 | 253 | 10: Zelda (nes)* | 6- | 25 | 150 | By Quality Index (All songs SS~F points/number of tracks excluding X) Rank: Game | Quality Index | SS~A Sum Points | Evaluation | 1: Zelda (nes)* | 6- | 25 | 150 | 2: Streets of Rage 2 | 4.9 | 72 | 352 | 3: Megaman 3 | 4.79- | 53 | 253 | 4: Castlevania 3 | 4.78 | 70 | 334 | 5: Sonic 3 & Knuckles | 4.74 | 80 | 379 | 6: Pokemon R/B/Y/G | 4.44 | 151 | 350 | 7: Chrono Trigger | 4.38 | 206 | 578 | 8: Mario 3 | 4.22- | 55 | 232 | 9: Phantom Brave | 4.11 | 65 | 267 | 10: Final Fantasy X** | 3.75 | 109 | 409 | *Short Soundtrack **Long Soundtrack -Lenient Scoring

@ Liontamer, on my chart thats 103 (it makes sense once you click the playlist link) It was just better for my chart to use a shorthand (I ranked it S) Thanks for the input/backup PS: If your emotionally sensitive when it comes to music, I challenge you to keep your sh-- together throughout 211 while listening carefully. PPS: sadly a few of these songs are cut off pre-maturely since its just random uploads... would have been nice if they let a few of them loop more than once. But not all of them have this problem. Also if you find a copy of this game it actually comes with the soundtrack in most cases.

So out of all the games out there with just amazing soundtracks. I feel like there are at least 2 games neglected... Golden Sun, which does have a few remixes here, and Phantom Brave. Phantom Brave is an early 2000's Strategy RPG from the makers of Disgaea/Final Fantasy Tactics. It honestly has one of the very best soundtracks of all time, which is saying a lot since it comes out of an age where strong melodic soundtracks were almost universally replaced with dull background chords to make room for dialogue and "Atmosphere". I also took the time to find you a OST link and ranked all of the songs (fighting game tier style of course ) If your not familiar here is how to read the chart... Rank (graded on a bell Curve) SS <- Legendary songs like Zelda Overworld most games dont have this. S <- Amazing tracks that will stick with you for years after playing Few games have these, and usually only 1-2. A <- Excellent all rounders, the stages you look forward to. Most games have 1-3 of these. B <- Above average songs that elevate above the norm. C <- Basic solid tracks that you may not remember... But dont upset the ears. D <- Sub-Par songs, usually filler tracks that perhaps aren't really bad, but out of the context of their intended use dont hold up musical merit. E <- Tracks that are bad, they stand out as being poorly produced or musicly flawed. F <- awful tracks that are bad enough that even detract from the overall fun of the game. X <- Tracks with either no musical merit, or aren't really songs, sometimes just a 5 second jingle for victory, tracks here are basically music, but not full songs. (the death music from sonic 1, or the stage ending to mario world when you get the flag) ------------------ Phantom Brave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4idHnGXM_Q&index=1&list=PLF0AAD1984339AD94 SS S 103, 112, 113, 202, 211*, A 102, 109, 110*, 201, 204*, 212 B 101, 104, 105, 107*, 214 C 106, 108, 111, 213** D 203, 205, 206, 207, 208, 209*, 210* E F X *you may like these songs more than I did based on your musical taste. **this is a filler track but its a very good one so I bumped it up. I tried to be particularly hard on the songs when ranking them to offset being a fan of the series, but take a listen, see what you think, and if you enjoy any of them please do a mix or cover This soundtrack should be known! The game is pretty good too.