there are plenty of hiphop beats that have many layers and show awareness of the 'rules' of music in general (el-p from def jux is a great example) but there's more to a hiphop beat then layers, effects, time signatures, and the like...its about digging...searching for the perfect break, that lost jem that no one knows about, and making something that will compliment the MC. techno doesn't have an MC to think about...the focus is on the beat/song itself and keeping the kids who forgot their riddlin entertained. but yeah...pop hiphop productions sucks that of a black hole who whores herself to wandering asteroids. damn 3 key progressions