Liontamer Posted January 24, 2008 Share Posted January 24, 2008 Now that I'm looking at the letter, from "Adam Fudge", I think some n00b is trying to get this posted because he liked it. It actually sounds pretty good, and it's by Krispy, so I'll find out from Kris what's up - LT clandestine is the name of the song and it is from the Chicago level in perfect dark for the n64. credits to:http://www.pdark-mod.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.zophar.net/usf/pdusf.rar - 20b "Chicago: Stealth" Good concept opening things up. The way the sequencing ends up, the bassline and beats seem a bit stiff and choppy in terms of the timing, not resulting in a smooth flow. Not quite a huge criticism there; I'm actually more impressed with how you enhanced and expanded the groove compared to the simplicity of the original. Not much else to say here. Smooth sailing throughout the arrangement, IMO. Definitely a great fit for Perfect Dark: Source as well as OCR. YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palpable Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 This is awesome. Great atmosphere built out of strings, decaying beats, and background synths (would have loved some rain and thunder FX too, haha). Excellent development of the simple Chicago theme - I get the feeling that this is what the original song wanted to be. Love the elegance of the climbing strings at 2:16. Production is very good. I agree that the bass playing could have been tighter, but that's not close to stopping this one. YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted April 13, 2008 Share Posted April 13, 2008 I have to agree with Larry that the beat and bassline seem stiff and choppy. The primary drum groove sounds like it should simply be way faster, like for a breakbeat or big beat track, rather than for a chill atmospheric remix like this. The more distorted and processed drums are very nice though. This reminds me of the bustatunez/TO collaboration "Rare Square" in almost every way, which I was a big fan of... but I think the percussion there was more fitting in the mix and less distracting. Production is good, other than the main drums. However, it really seems similar to the original in terms of style, mood, and instrumentation. In fact, I actually preferred the atmosphere of the original, even though the setup was almost identical to the remix. Lots of long sustained string chords, simple progression, etc. Even though there is a degree of interpretation in the remix, I just don't think it was quite expansive enough overall. The layers build up gradually throughout, but the texture never changes very much (besides more percussion), and almost all the notes are just long sustains. The whole mix sits awkwardly between being a dramatic action film score type of sound, and a chill, atmospheric groove, so neither style is working. Hate to be so negative, especially compared to the other judges, but I just think this one needs more cohesiveness, and more elements to set it apart from the source. NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkeSword Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Yeah, the drumbeat is obviously a faster loop that's been sliced and tempo-matched; it's pretty repetitive and actually doesn't seem to change at all throughout the piece until halfway through, but then it's just replaced by some more repetitive beats. This whole song sounds pretty stiff and plodding. There's not much interesting stuff going on aside from the stuff during the transitions. The song just sounds like it's on autopilot. NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zykO Posted July 1, 2008 Share Posted July 1, 2008 i agree that it seems stiff but that would be almost exclusively due to the fact that the drums are a loop here. that said, some genres benefit from that distinction and i think this is groovy at points... but ultimately that is where the track's only significant downside is. honestly, it doesn't really plod all that much... it does have some distinct parts to it and it transitions from them decently enough. furthermore, this is totally perfect dark. ========== yeah, i like it but im not yessing it outright. this needs a little more work. i don't think the drums are bad enough for an outright no... they just need to be beefier and because they're looped funny like that, they sound out of place... they need a real groove to them - the current one is too hard to get into. the loop you're using doesn't sound designed to carry a track for long stretches like that... it works, sure, but not very effectively... you should mix up the loops just a smidge... spell that one with one that grooves more straight forward, allowing your listener to follow the instrumental and then shake em up. this is very close as it already is pretty cool. YEScond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted July 11, 2008 Author Share Posted July 11, 2008 This is our current oldest submission. 6 months?!? Get it going guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big giant circles Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 I'm going to have to side with Andy and Shariq on this one. I really have nothing else to add/offer. Sorry for the glib vote, but between the two of them, those are exactly my feelings and concerns. Cool concept for a piece - it's definitely fitting of a Perfect Dark remix, but cool concept alone doesn't earn the green light by it's lonesome. The execution needs to back it up. More expression in the legato/sustained strings, and un-rigid-ify the beats. Speeding the track up maybe even 5 bpm could even help a bit. NO And now we're at 3Y/3N. 6 months and it may as well be at zero votes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcos Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Little bit of downtempo bias here methinks? This is quite embarrassing that this has been here for 6 months. This is a very atmospheric soundtrack type smouldering beat. I think the slightly off time bass was quite groovy. However, what lets this mix down is the beat which is too repetitive (although there are additions at 1.39). If the beat was phatter ie, more emphasis on the kick, it would have also made this mix sound more solid. However, I thought the other instrumental elements were fantastic - and the arrangement, while simple, was very effective. Taking everything into consideration... YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anosou Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Cool track. Very modern, very Amon Tobin. I liked the chopped up drumbeat and the general sloppiness of the bass. They both really helps to set the vibe. It does sound very intentional and groove-based and not like an error. The drum-loop could use some more low-end if this was a big beat track, but in this case I don't think it's nessecary. Very cool to let the saxophone take the lead, superb tone. I thought the strings was so-so but it's a minor. The arrangement otheriwse is plodding along quite good. Some interesting expansion of the source and generally very true to the mood of the original, something I can appreciate. This is good enough for me and conceptually a great arrangement. The low-end could've helped to aim this to a larger crowd and give the loop more impact but I think that would've taken focus from the chill arrangement. So I'm gonna go with YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vig Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 I dig the tune. I think some of the balances are a bit off. I agree whole-heartedly with Weed that the groove needs to be beefier. fat kick plz. If you need to, carve a chunk out of the bass/low strings to make room for the kick around 60-125 Hz. Those strings are kind of boomy anyway. NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted August 21, 2008 Author Share Posted August 21, 2008 C'mon stragglers! Don't be a hater! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Harr, I downloaded this just before you posted. Vote comin right up. EDIT: I think the overall groove of this track works well. Its one of those beats where you can't tell if its out of time or not, or even if it was intentional, but it works for me. The beat is swung, but the bass line doesn't seem to be, which is where that weird timing comes from. I agree with the comments saying that the beat could have used a beefing though. The orchestral elements build very well, and they compliment the groove. The main point of contention is really whether or not the overall feel created works, and to me it worked fine. What I think really makes this track is how the key moments and changes are built into. The 0:38 intro, the 2:29 breakdown and re-entry, the way everything builds up to 3:45 and cuts out for the ending. The execution of these moments pushed this one over for me. Its definitely not without its faults, but I didn't find the beat as antagonizing as others and the moody arrangement full of lovely dark chords hit me in the right way. Arrangement is above bar easily, and I can see why production might be borderline with a few frequencies fighting each other, but I think it does the job. A nice take on the theme and I hope to hear more. YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHz Posted September 6, 2008 Share Posted September 6, 2008 Nice expansive approach. Similar to the original in a lot of respects, but I do like the way you've built on it. Maybe a bit plodding, but I'd go more with "deliberate." The production has pretty much been fully covered, so I'll let you go by saying that it could use some work, especially on the drums, but it doesn't drag the track into NO territory. Arrangement works, production checks out, it's been eight months but here is one last YES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted September 20, 2008 Author Share Posted September 20, 2008 I checked it out, and Kris is cool with having this posted. All blessings to Adam Fudge, wherever you are. Hey, Kris! Quoted below is a letter from someone attempting to submit a track from Perfect Dark: Source, "Clandestine". One of yours? - Larry Hi Larry, Frankly I am flattered you even remember me. I kind of left the scene with a whisper when all my friends disappeared one by one (I still haven't heard anything from Mr. Alexander since that day although I keep in touch with Robert Guinn). Yes that is mine and for what is worth, it was the last song I produced some two years ago. I actually think some of the other songs from the dead mod project are better in quality, but I guess that is for you guys to decide. You have my permission to post it on OC ReMix if that is what you were looking for. Hell, you can review the entire "soundtrack" if you like although I think "Defection" fits the OC ReMix mission statement better than some of the other songs (i.e. it is a bit more of an rearrangement). God knows it is way less sloppy than the Halo remix I have on there (talk about a shitzophrenic song). -Kris (Krispy) Haha, of course I remember you, bro. Yeah, it's not too often that we get unsolicited submissions, especially regarding artists I know, so I went ahead and paneled it. We actually passed it, and I wanted to make sure you were OK with even having it posted, as we wouldn't do that without your explicit OK, so thanks for that. If you'd like to submit more from the PD: Source soundtrack, we'd definitely be down. When I have some time, I'll take a listen to everything and let you know if I think you should consider submitting more stuff, which would always be a good way to pimp the project. Hope you're doing well! - Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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