Arek the Absolute Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 The warioware stage looks like it would be fun the first time you play, and then after that it looks like you would have to focus too much on the microgames and not enough on the fighting.Confirm/deny? major deny the stage is funky but you can definitely fight without focusing on the minigames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overflow Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 major denythe stage is funky but you can definitely fight without focusing on the minigames You could probably even play a round devoted just to the minigames, not fighting. That could be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybell Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 major denythe stage is funky but you can definitely fight without focusing on the minigames Yay! This makes me happy. When it first was shown at the dojo I was psyched all over the place, and then I got worried they'd screw it up. Also, unrelated to this, but I was just playing as G&W in Melee and I realized that never, not once, have I ever seen his down-b used successfully in a match. Has anyone else ever had any success with this move? Often times I end up forgetting about it, mostly, but once I did manage to fill the bucket before dying finally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 The down b special is great. Any time someone is using a projectile, I pop up the bucket and get three in. Sure, it won't do a lot of damage *especially if you suck up three shots from fox*, but it still helps. The move got buffed like crazy in brawl. I won't spoil how. That is something you will have to see for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Taucer Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Once I was playing a match against my brother, where I was G&W and he was Ness. I caught 3 PK flashes with G&W's down-b. The result was quite epic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 also im pretty sure the bucket carries over its charge even when you die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 every person ive played with and many have been people who are not no item final d fags like me have hated the warioware stage after the first time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaybell Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 also im pretty sure the bucket carries over its charge even when you die Huh, so it does. Whoops. The problem with me is that I'll somehow pull off filling the bucket, and then I screw up the actual attack somehow. every person ive played with and many have been people who are not no item final d fags like me have hated the warioware stage after the first time Please elaborate, I'd like to hear a differing viewpoint on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Please elaborate, I'd like to hear a differing viewpoint on this. well if you do the microgame you get a stat boost like invincibility or a big mushroom and if 1 person gets the shroom and the other gets the star its kinda unfair and the games get downright annoying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjSammyG Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 See Ionno about that- that makes the game more fun for me. In a tourney, of course that's not cool, but the OH SHIT element of the opposing player getting invincibility is fun for me. That's what it boils down to, I guess... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 In "for fun" matches, the stage is awesome. If you are in "serious mode" then of course you are going to hate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 the people that hated it were also only playing for fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 atma and i just played about 40 matches i wont say how many he won man bro, what happened. we were even last time >.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 i seem to enjoy killing myself a lot by accident when i get falcon on random also what the heck is with yoshis pound beating dededes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjSammyG Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I guess I'll have to WITHHOLD JUDGEMENT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhsu Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 For some reason that fits perfectly with your sig. Also dang it Atma, I can't tell between possession and plurality in your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arek the Absolute Posted February 21, 2008 Author Share Posted February 21, 2008 i seem to enjoy killing myself a lot by accident when i get falcon on randomalso what the heck is with yoshis pound beating dededes You were only Captain Falcon twice though, and you only killed yourself one of the two times. Also, haha, ya, that was awesome how Yoshi's ground pound totally owned Dedede's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjSammyG Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 For some reason that fits perfectly with your sig. Damn, man. You're right. I'm imagining ol' Bogard saying that as he throws his hat off now. Thanks for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overflow Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 So, in SSB64, wasn't Link decided as the best character? Strongest, and best range? I'm guessing in melee it was either falco or marth, because of their speed, strength and range. How about for brawl? in the videos, it looks like Link has been beefed up A LOT. which character would you brawl owners say is best? Also, comment on the 64 and melee characters; I'd like to hear other opinions. But...Let's try and keep it opinions, not a flame war, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 You were only Captain Falcon twice though, and you only killed yourself one of the two times.Also, haha, ya, that was awesome how Yoshi's ground pound totally owned Dedede's. when i was him the first time i killed myself right in the beginning at 14% and the second time i killed myself TWICE, both in the 10-20% range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drack Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 So, in SSB64, wasn't Link decided as the best character? Strongest, and best range? I'm guessing in melee it was either falco or marth, because of their speed, strength and range. How about for brawl? in the videos, it looks like Link has been beefed up A LOT. which character would you brawl owners say is best?Also, comment on the 64 and melee characters; I'd like to hear other opinions. But...Let's try and keep it opinions, not a flame war, lol. No. In '64, all the tourney-level players played Kirby and Pikachu. Link had no spike and a bad recovery. In Melee, characters were more balanced. Tournaments were won most frequently by Fox, Falco, Marth, and Sheik players, in that order. Jigglypuff and Peach are close behind, but there are amazing players for every character. For Brawl, it's way too soon to tell. The local tournament I attended had the top three being a Peach/Olimar player, a Metaknight player, and a Wolf player (me), but that really doesn't mean anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobaltstarfire Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 when i was him the first time i killed myself right in the beginning at 14% and the second time i killed myself TWICE, both in the 10-20% range It's not good to have lemmings as a role model, you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drack Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 I'm positive they're trying to ask whether the computers are complete dunces like in Melee, not how hard it is to beat them.For example in Melee the CPU's wouldn't recognize when, say, there's an opponent charging a smash right beside them, or there's a giant PK Flash heading their way, or a Kirby Air Ride star is about to crash down on them - a human in any of these conditions would either run the hell away or charge the attacker, do SOMETHING smart to avoid getting hit, but the CPUs don't know what's what and get hit every time - they simply CANNOT see it coming, whereas a human can CLEARLY see the attack coming seconds before it arrives. Are Brawl's CPUs smarter and more human in this respect? CPUs still don't change their behavior against charging smashes and incoming warp stars. It seems that they're generally good at attacking but don't observe the opponent's actions beyond simple things like position. Even so, they're a greater challenge than Melee CPUs in general. For a character with a good AI (Like the CPU Meta Knight), a Level 7 will give about as much challenge as a Melee Level 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Global-Trance Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 No. In '64, all the tourney-level players played Kirby and Pikachu. Link had no spike and a bad recovery.In Melee, characters were more balanced. Tournaments were won most frequently by Fox, Falco, Marth, and Sheik players, in that order. Jigglypuff and Peach are close behind, but there are amazing players for every character. For Brawl, it's way too soon to tell. The local tournament I attended had the top three being a Peach/Olimar player, a Metaknight player, and a Wolf player (me), but that really doesn't mean anything. What? Did you forget Isai's Captain Falcon for 64? Edit: Also I'm at Game Developer's Conference this year. I'll be seeing Sakurai speak about Brawl on Friday afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 What? Did you forget Isai's Captain Falcon for 64? Edit: Also I'm at Game Developer's Conference this year. I'll be seeing Sakurai speak about Brawl on Friday afternoon. WWUUTT! GT at GDC? Definitely leak lots of stuff, or whatever you're allowed to tell us And yeah, Link actually sucks in SSB64 as I found out by playing Chillindude's Fox. Fox can still shine spike in smash 64 :[ I didn't know that until then. Also, Jiggs can l-cancel all of her arials into rest so getting hit = KO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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