Jam Stunna Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 Waddle Dees are definitely one of the best projectiles in the game. And D3 just needs to grab, and he wins. His grab range is like half of Smashville, it's ridiculous. I think that tier list looks pretty off as well (Pit higher than Zelda? No way), but it is their first one. It'll get refined as time goes on. Pretty much all that really matters is top tier and high tier, and with the exception of Pit and Wolf, those two tiers look pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samurai_of_plague Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 does anybody wanna play? friend code 4081 7958 0284 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 does anybody wanna play?friend code 4081 7958 0284 get on #clanocr on irc.enterthegame.com to set up games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohbody Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Waddle Dees are definitely one of the best projectiles in the game. And D3 just needs to grab, and he wins. His grab range is like half of Smashville, it's ridiculous. I dont grab much, except with olimar because of its incredible efficiency, but deedeedee doesnt seem like he has much of a grab radius. actually for any attack that doesnt involve his hammer, people need to be practically right on top of him for the attack to connect. that goes for the rocket hammer as well. And none of the grabs in smash do much damage, i mean his down throw he sits on the opponent for 7 damage. atma why would I play you with sonic? Hes the easiest character to get the hang of, just remember that anytime you push a button he turns into a ball and does pathetic damage and youve pretty much got it. Id play you on internet, man, id love to, but no wii/ wireless. Id have to buy a wii and wireless router to play online and I dont have that kind of money right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 good lord that post fails on like 10 different levels glitch is probably one of those IM SO GOOD I BEAT MY FRIENDS MOST OF THE TIME people Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Stunna Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 D3's back throw does 16%. That's fucking nuts for a throw. Not to mention his dthrow is a chaingrab on like 2/3 of the cast, it's a tech-chase chaingrab if you can pull it off, it's an infinite in some cases (Pokemon Stadium and Corneria, for example), and it always links to at least a ftilt. No matter how you look at it, if D3 grabs you, you're going to eat close to 20% of damage. D3 doesn't even need his Smashes, because his utilt, dtilt, and bair are so brutal. His fsmash is too slow to realistically hit anyone (although it does punish people who underestimate its retarded range), and his utilt is so much better than his usmash it's almost a joke, pretty much like Snake. Lastly, he has five jumps, super armor on the top half of his body during his recovery, has a sure-fire suicide attack if he needs it, and amazing aerials in general. Basically, if you can't win a match as D3, you probably can't win at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohbody Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 D3's back throw does 16%. That's fucking nuts for a throw. Not to mention his dthrow is a chaingrab on like 2/3 of the cast, it's a tech-chase chaingrab if you can pull it off, it's an infinite in some cases (Pokemon Stadium and Corneria, for example), and it always links to at least a ftilt. No matter how you look at it, if D3 grabs you, you're going to eat close to 20% of damage.D3 doesn't even need his Smashes, because his utilt, dtilt, and bair are so brutal. His fsmash is too slow to realistically hit anyone (although it does punish people who underestimate its retarded range), and his utilt is so much better than his usmash it's almost a joke, pretty much like Snake. Lastly, he has five jumps, super armor on the top half of his body during his recovery, has a sure-fire suicide attack if he needs it, and amazing aerials in general. Basically, if you can't win a match as D3, you probably can't win at all. youre right, his back throw is pretty good. I always throw up or down, just a stupid reflex. I dont chaingrab because of this crazy sense of honor I have while playing, the same thing that drives me to commit ingame suicide if I get a bullshit kill in a one on one match. Problem with tilts for me is I cant train my thumb to not mash the control stick, so theres a waiting period for me to do tilts if i want to avoid smashing. ftilts are slow and do only 8 damage, and utilt is great if your opponent is above/ on top of you, and doesnt have a sword/common sense. Dtilt is useless by my judgement. That spendid bair is useful only if ddd doesnt change direction midair after his first jump Im not sure what you meant about armor, although Id like for you to maybe tell me more about that.. Im still learning here so plz chill atmuh. I admit to being pretentious before, and Ill stop. So far almost everytime ive posted youve nailed me on something and thats kind of annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Stunna Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 ^Evo could learn a thing or two about commentary from those guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohbody Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 glitch, super armor is when you get hit but there's no knockback, like on ike's or snake's up specialsalso you make yourself an easy target for atmuh to "nail you" because you say dumb stuff with a lot of authority got it. no dumb stuff then. How hard is chain grabbing? does it require a certain window of %damage on the opponent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 grab press down dash forward for very short time hit shield then a once youre almost at opponent press down dash forward for very short time hit shield then a once youre almost at opponent press down dash forward for very short time hit shield then a once youre almost at opponent press down dash forward for very short time hit shield then a once youre almost at opponent press down dash forward for very short time hit shield then a once youre almost at opponent press down dash forward for very short time hit shield then a once youre almost at opponent press down dash forward for very short time hit shield then a once youre almost at opponent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam Stunna Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 i don't use shield+a to grab. i just bound it to L insteadis that not pro? (also i b-stick) Depends on the situation, but shield-grabbing is an extremely useful technique. Especially for characters that have excellent grabs. Also, like Atma said, if you're running and then hit the shield button to perform a shield-grab, it will extend the range of your regular standing grab, without adding the lag associated with a dash grab. It's similar to how jump-canceled grabs worked in Melee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohbody Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 its not okay. better yourself and learn more smash. thish shield grabbing thing looks fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 youll get banend if you have swearing in your sig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferret Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Atmuh for the love of god can you make that sig smaller? I can almost use it as an anchor it's so huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 ok is this better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombie Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 BIG SMILEY Atmuh i love you man. Anyways it has been forever since i have played... I think i am getting rusty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 i just thought it was kind of comical that ferret who is basically synonymous with terrible decides to make his first post in over 2 weeks and it is a very sad attempt to undermine my posts by making an accusation that is senseless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohbody Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Thanks for advice atmuh looks like you dont want me banned after all. As far as b sticking, aside from wave bouncing its kind of a waste of a stick, unless there is some useful use of wave bouncing that I hadnt known of before. What would be really efficient would be a c stick that did a strong attack in the direction you pushed without messing up and jumping/ doing a nuetral a attack. but definitely switching grab to L, looks like it would make shield grabbing easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohbody Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 theres that high jump of his, but i cant think of anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Derrit Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 theres that high jump of his, but i cant think of anything else because you're dumb. lucas' bsticking pretty much lets him jump forward and pk fire, and end up in the same place or even further back from where he jumped from. great for spacing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 good lord that post fails on like 10 different levelsglitch is probably one of those IM SO GOOD I BEAT MY FRIENDS MOST OF THE TIME people i AM so good that i beat my friends most of the time WHAT NOW HUH HUH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nohbody Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 because you're dumb.lucas' bsticking pretty much lets him jump forward and pk fire, and end up in the same place or even further back from where he jumped from. great for spacing As far as b sticking, aside from wave bouncing its kind of a waste of a stick, unless there is some useful use of wave bouncing that I hadnt known of before, Wave bouncing= using b stick back while in air=what you just said. Its only good with lucas, however. If there are any other uses of bstick, Id like to know, Im sort of ok with lucas Red Shadow, if I try to come back from that Ill only get shamed again. Im starting to learn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 i AM so good that i beat my friends most of the timeWHAT NOW HUH HUH ya but i bet you lose to your mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Shadow Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Red Shadow, if I try to come back from that Ill only get shamed again. Im starting to learn 's just me and atma bein dicks to each other, pay no mind YA I LOSE TO MY MOM ATMA BUT SO WOULD YOU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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