SwordBreaker Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 http://www.zreomusic.com/ http://www.zreomusic.com/music/symphony/II.MemoriesOfKakariko-320.mp3 As some of you may know, ZREO mostly covers Zelda music, not remix it. But they've been diversifying recently. I've been a huge fan of the project ever since its inception, and I was very impressed with this recent release of their "Open Symphony" project, which is a remix of Kakariko Village. The samples are excellent, the somber tune is so well done, and the way the remixer integrated a part of the "Clocktown" riff is flawless. I'm hoping that they would submit this track to OCR for more exposure, since I'm pretty sure that the judges will dig it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaFone Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I've listened to their stuff for a while and I agree, their work is fantastic. Don't really care if they're covers, though. Some of them were so reworked you couldn't call it "just a copy". Like the Shadow Temple. It was so tweaked I'd call it an actual remix. The song you've suggested is more like a song and a half, wouldn't that count as a remix? Anyway, I know that if I were a judge, I'd totally yes this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atmuh Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 both songs are straight covers and the trumpet sample pisses me off heck no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenon Odyssey Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 I smell clipping, and I don't think the arrangement is liberal enough for OCR. It reminds me of one of my Chrono Trigger mixes, where I basically soloed instruments over the existing baseline and chords...there isn't enough reinterpretation on their end. And I agree with Atma; I want to melt that trumpet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanthos Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Anyway, I know that if I were a judge, I'd totally yes this. Not based on OCR site standards you wouldn't. Being a judge here isn't about whether or not you like a piece, or even how good it is. It's about whether the piece fits the standards. I didn't listen closely, but heard enough to agree with the other posters here as to why this remix likely wouldn't get a yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sil Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Sometimes it helps to listen to real orchestral music to get a sense of how samples are supposed to sound. That said, I don't think this piece conveys that understanding as much as it should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zykO Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 NO ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumUltimA Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 NO....... haaaaaaaaaaaah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkeSword Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I've listened to their stuff for a while and I agree, their work is fantastic. Don't really care if they're covers, though. Some of them were so reworked you couldn't call it "just a copy". Like the Shadow Temple. It was so tweaked I'd call it an actual remix. The song you've suggested is more like a song and a half, wouldn't that count as a remix? Anyway, I know that if I were a judge, I'd totally yes this. Which is precisely why you'll never be a judge. Aside from the fact that it's a cover, there are a lot of balance issues between instruments, especially when flute and oboe attempt harmony and countermelodies. Too crowded. The samples really aren't that great either; they're only about as good as the ones I use. But like I said, without the attention paid to balance between voices, they don't really deliver as well as they could. So no, it probably would not get a YES from OCR judges. It's not a production, it's an arrangement with some serviceable samples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordBreaker Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 Wow...tough crowd. I was so sure you guys would like this. Anyway, I can understand the arguments about the samples...I think they sound pretty good overall, but I'm not an expert on that. Melody-wise, I really don't see why you think it's a cover, Darke. It sounds somewhat different from all the Kakariko melodies throughout the series, and the fact that it perfectly integrates part of Majora's Mask "Clocktown" riff scores extra points with me. Sure it's not the most liberal arrangement in the world, but it's pretty good. Oh, well. We can argue about this all day. I still love this track. Too bad it'll miss out on OCR, 'cause I think the arranger was interested in submitting or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhsu Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Tell him to post it in WIP to get advice on how to improve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwordBreaker Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 Tell him to post it in WIP to get advice on how to improve. Yeah...I'll do that if I speak to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFusion Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 Eh? Wasn't this the same guy who got shot down for being found guilty for ripping off midi samples and just replacing the instruments with his own garritan samples? There was a whole debacle of it on the forum of another site who I think used to host the website. Oh yeah, now I remember -- he had a donations link on his website, which had him taking credit for the work of the midi writers. There was quite large ruckus over the net as well. Anyone else remember this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechaFone Posted March 1, 2008 Share Posted March 1, 2008 I remember something to that extent being mentioned last time I brought this up, what, three months ago? I never did get a full story on what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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