Games & Sex: another video by me!

[Fishy]

These are so fun to watch, I hope you make more.

[sephfire]

I'd love to try and spread these around a bit more, but I'm not sure what sort of places would be best for that. Kotaku maybe? I don't know.

These are so fun to watch, I hope you make more.

I'd love to make more, but I don't really have any new topics in mind at the moment. These have both been for class projects so far and I don't think I'll have any new research assignments for a while (if ever). Maybe something interesting will come up, though.

[Overflow]

Many great points were raised, and overall it is a great video.

I think that you were 100% correct in stating that sex in games must be present when appropriate, not just as some extra, cheap thrills.

Intimacy is the first hurdle, however, that game developers haven't overcome. Look at LoZ TP for example. They had a great opportunity between Link and Illia, but once the developers realized it, they had to think up some way to remove the intimacy so they wouldn't have to deal with it, so *SPOILER* bye bye Illia's memory! */SPOILER*

The only time I can think of a movie where the sex was necessary was Terminator, because Sarah having a son was an integral part of the story. Too often in movies is sex put in just because there's space for it, but all this does is just present sex as a cheap thrill, and it's the same in games. Personally, I think games are more enjoyable when you aren't distracted by, ahem, 'women', and if a game is based purely on being distracted by such 'women', I think that's just a sad, last-resort attempt at getting money from a shallow, male demographic.

[The Author]

I'd love to make more, but I don't really have any new topics in mind at the moment. These have both been for class projects so far and I don't think I'll have any new research assignments for a while (if ever). Maybe something interesting will come up, though.

Videogames and violence

Videogames as art

Videogames as a reflection of culture

Videogames in pop culture

Videogames as literature

Videogames and feminism

There ya go, glad to help.

[Malaki-LEGEND.sys]

For video games and feminism, you could do some kind of point, counterpoint-styled argument to point out how video games have helped and/or hindered the movement or something along those lines.

I like the idea of video games and as a reflection of culture. You could do stuff relating to how games are sometimes subject to cultural stereotypes, in-culture concepts, etc., etc... I think it could be taken to lengths on a number of things

[X]

Interesting and informative for people who don't already know all this stuff (read as "non-gamers"), but it does tend to drag on a bit, though perhaps understandably so.

In reality, people only hinder the advancement of video games because they're greedy idiots. For one, people are quick to condemn something they don't understand - they don't play video games and therefore slam people that do and are willing to find feeble (and likely untrue) excuses to do so. The reason that it reveals a motivation of greed is because bad coverage sells, and what reason would someone have to tell the truth if the opposite didn't earn them some benefit in the long run? None apparently. There's no care in honesty if it doesn't make you look good, and there's also no sense in not using it as a means of extortion in the process. Anything else is thoroughly "un-[insert nationalism of choice]." The video game industry simply makes for an easy target. That's all.

[Bleck]

For one, people are quick to condemn something they don't understand - they don't play video games and therefore slam people that do

I play video games and I still think WoW is a terrible and frightening habit.

[X]

I play video games and I still think WoW is a terrible and frightening habit.

You mean like EverCrack? Personally, I've never been able to get into any MMO's, but that doesn't mean that they're bad. It's just not my thing. If people want to roleplay their lives away, that's fine by me. It's their choice after all...

[Aninymouse]

That's actually my voice pitch-bent up about 10%. I realized in making the first one that my regular voice gets very boring after a few minutes...

STILL SNORE-INDUCING, LET ME ASSURE YOU caps.

[Less Ashamed Of Self]

Sephfire, in a just world you would be getting paid to do these. I knew your name from some remixes, and from general forum posts from within the community... but now I'm never forgetting the name sephfire (re:Daniel Floyd) as a clever ranter; I hope you find value in that.

[The Damned]

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Someone doesn't watch enough Simpsons reruns...

[Hy Bound]

Really well-done. My wife and I actually watched this together. She isn't exactly what you would call a gamer, but she actually really enjoyed; possibly as much as I did.

Great work, Seph!

[Robotaki]

Looks like someone is multitalented =p As some people have already suggested, you should continue this act you got going I'm in full support of it anyway. Perfect meld of humour and education for me.

[Chiwalker]

Hey where is the file for the first song played on your vid?

Sounds like a remix of super mario 64 snow or bomb battlefield levels, but it's not on ocremix?

[SLyGeN]

After watching this video, I had to check out the first one.

The thing that impressed me most was how coherent every single idea was and how every single thought flowed seamlessly from one to the other. That's talent.

[Tables]

Hey where is the file for the first song played on your vid?

Sounds like a remix of super mario 64 snow or bomb battlefield levels, but it's not on ocremix?

Well, it's called Penguin Cap according to yonder credits, but yeah I guess its not on OCR. Quick to the time machine! I want to find this too.

edit: Screw the time machine, a careful google search revealed this to me in a dream:

http://dod.vgmix.com/past/jul05/03%20-%20CarboHydroM%20-%20Mario%2064%20-%20Penguin%20Cap.mp3

I'm still confused as to why it isn't on OCR, but nonetheless:

Again, awesome video funny voice A++

[JCvgluvr]

I would really enjoy more presentations from you. Your obvious imitation of Yahtzee is not just forgivable, but made unique thanks to your voice modulation and alternation between seriousness and silly satire. A couple pictures that amused me were your "governator" and "It prints money". Good stuff my friend.

STILL SNORE-INDUCING, LET ME ASSURE YOU caps.

As a joke, this wasn't funny. As a serious criticism, it was unfounded and uncalled for. So, which was it?

[BardicKnowledge]

Well done -- and yet another reason why FFX was much, much better than FFX2.

[sephfire]

Well done -- and yet another reason why FFX was much, much better than FFX2.

I still hold that FFX-2's battle system was one of the finest ever created for a turn-based RPG and the soundtrack was still great, but otherwise I have a hard time arguing.

[Overflow]

I would really enjoy more presentations from you. Your obvious imitation of Yahtzee is not just forgivable, but made unique thanks to your voice modulation and alternation between seriousness and silly satire. A couple pictures that amused me were your "governator" and "It prints money". Good stuff my friend.

I actually find this better than most of Yahtzee's stuff. Dan's ideas are much more coherent and logical, not just criticisms. Also, I really appreciate the absence of over-the-top language. While funny in Yahtzee's vids, it also makes me a little embarrassed and uncomfortable to hear the F-bomb so many times.

Now I just need to sit back and wait until the inevitable: F*** F*** F*** etc comes along, just to tease me, lol.

[Dhsu]

I did want to say one thing though, in that I, personally, can't think of a movie that was particularly enhanced by the sensual (and/or sexual) content to the point that the movie wouldn't have been the same without it. Perhaps that's because I've seen a lot of films and my brain's not seizing on one. Still, it just seemed a little over generalized to state that everyone knows such a film. That's just me though.

Yeah, I think that assumption was the weakest area of an otherwise provoking, if not entirely compelling, argument. It would be stronger in my opinion if you were to show how the "mature" portrayal of sex directly affected the acceptance of film as an art form. Providing examples like "The Graduate" is a good start, but correlation does not imply causation.

That said, if you had mentioned this project beforehand, I would've recommended talking shortly about Japanese eroge dating sims and visual novels. These games often focus very strongly on the intimacy aspect, which ends up making the eventual sex scenes more meaningful and rewarding. Then again, eroge are not generally considered works of art, so perhaps that wouldn't be so helpful to your argument, heh.

[Bigfoot]

Hey look, you're on Kotaku.

http://kotaku.com/5011043/video-game-sex-lecture-time

[sephfire]

Sweet. And they even think I'm a professor.

[Dhsu]

If exploring sexuality is a fundamental of art, then I guess music isn't art. Oh wait...

I think this is a great point, actually. You might argue that sex is ubiquitous in today's popular music, but I wouldn't call songs like "Sex in the Kitchen" works of art (well...maybe I would, but critics might disagree ).

On the other hand, love songs are as old as music itself. I think music's ability to separate love from sex is actually part of what makes it mature as an art form. And the same might be argued for artwork...yeah there are plenty of naked people, but artists managed to completely separate the human form from any sexual connotations. When you see Leonardo's Vitruvian Man or David, you don't think "wow, props to Leo for dealing with intimacy in a mature way." Same goes for literature...haven't ever read a book where sex (rather than love) specifically adds to my respect for it.

[The Author]

I think in some cases, sexuality was more important than sex.

Had Oedipus only held hands with his mother, I'm pretty sure he would have kept his eyes.

Sexuality is an important part of the human experience, more than romance, I think. This is reflected in multiple works of arts. I remember Atwood's Rape Fantasy, which was built around a sexual / power act, and that the discussion of that act in that short story was at the core of the experience. Just as Atwood's Surfacing (yeah, I love Margaret Atwood, sue me), dealt with consequences of sex.

The idea is that some works of art basically grew by including sex beyond a simple "and then they made sweet love until the sun rose."

Music (and by music I do not include lyrics, since these are textual and can include sex rather easily) is a non-textual art. It is also an auditory experience rather than visual. By these traits, it is rather harder to express anything other than general emotions. However, through connotative content, music can express love, passion, desire, and well, sex. A good example of that is porn movie soundtracks. Even if you remove the visual and the acted parts, the purely aural values of the music expresses sexuality.