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So how about we give alltalk a rest for a while, eh? The idea of a team talk night was tossed around, then quickly disappeared when dissent was made.

Every time alltalk has been turned off, people here have started to complain about it.

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I think it's worth considering if those complaints have merit. Personally, I think people bitch about it just because it's different.

I wouldn't mind it at all. Server events increase the feeling of community, and I was very sad to see them disappear. Now we're right back to doing Goldbowl every night, with a little Badwater and Pipeline on the side. I honestly can't think of a way to properly express my annoyance over this.

Additionally, despite our professions toward being a casual server, a substantive portion of the regulars are, for lack of a better term, in it to win it. I'm all for fun and games, but there comes a point where getting stomped into the ground because your team has 3 spies/snipers and their team has 2, as well as a mysterious ability to ACTUALLY CO-ORDINATE, the game stops being fun.

Suffice to say, I just want a little teamwork from my team. Suspending alltalk occasionally would do a lot toward that end.

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Problem being though even with alltalk off, most pubbies won't coordinate anyway. Its a novel concept to think that if alltalk was off that everything would be "peaches and cream" about people doing their best to work as a team, but yeah, it just doesn't happen. That's why I have a couple of servers on my favorites list that are passworded for other communities I go to that are pretty much "work as a team or you'll get your ass banned". If the idea of the second server ever rolled out for OCR, it might be good to have one night a week set up for serious teamwork/alltalk off settings, or maybe more than one night a week.

I guess what I'm saying is that if you did a one night alltalk off, you're probably gonna confuse people, or just cause an issue of people who only want alltalk (most of the people in the thread here and on IRC) or the people want it off (serious players or random people that show up and ask for it). You're never really gonna make everyone happy with this decision, but I personally like alltalk cause it does make the server fun to hear people bitching about stuff, and its something that a lot of servers don't have. But if it comes down to it, have a regulars vote on here and on IRC.

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Problem being though even with alltalk off, most pubbies won't coordinate anyway. Its a novel concept to think that if alltalk was off that everything would be "peaches and cream" about people doing their best to work as a team, but yeah, it just doesn't happen. That's why I have a couple of servers on my favorites list that are passworded for other communities I go to that are pretty much "work as a team or you'll get your ass banned". If the idea of the second server ever rolled out for OCR, it might be good to have one night a week set up for serious teamwork/alltalk off settings, or maybe more than one night a week.

I guess what I'm saying is that if you did a one night alltalk off, you're probably gonna confuse people, or just cause an issue of people who only want alltalk (most of the people in the thread here and on IRC) or the people want it off (serious players or random people that show up and ask for it). You're never really gonna make everyone happy with this decision, but I personally like alltalk cause it does make the server fun to hear people bitching about stuff, and its something that a lot of servers don't have. But if it comes down to it, have a regulars vote on here and on IRC.

I like having all-talk on. When team-talk is on, you never get any fun banter going, and it quickly degenerates into one guy (usually a pubbie) whining about how his team sucks and generally being a dickass. Having all-talk on prevents people from taking the game to the point where it ruins the fun for others.

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i just remembered why we quit talking about turning alltalk off, baha installed a teamtalk/alltalk plugin that lets you switch between them but iirc he didn't get it configured properly or it didn't work?

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Most servers you join are teamtalk only. That's where you get the people complaining about how much their teammates suck, just like Darkesword mentioned. When people join OCR and they realize it's alltalk, it gives them a different attitude about playing the game (and for some, it's their first time on an alltalk server). Combine that with the fact that we're talking like friends, and we get a lot of people who stick around, like our pubbies who have joined the site because they wuv our server so much.

Alltalk is one of the highlights of the OCR server and if people want to get omgserious about the game and strategy, keep it to one night a week/month or join another server.

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I like having all-talk on. When team-talk is on, you never get any fun banter going

This, basically.

Also, Meatball and I would never get to talk since we're always on separate teams, and he is required to apologize every 5 head shots on my heavy. :<

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I don't mute people unless they're being annoying or I can't stand the sound of their voice, but I don't want to hear people talking all the damn time :/

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I mute people all the time actually -- two comments about how the team should be run from a newbie = mute for me. I don't have time to hear it.

I do like being able to have fun banter / bragging to the other team when you do something awesome though. Keep alltalk on most of the time.

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Most servers you join are teamtalk only. That's where you get the people complaining about how much their teammates suck, just like Darkesword mentioned. When people join OCR and they realize it's alltalk, it gives them a different attitude about playing the game (and for some, it's their first time on an alltalk server). Combine that with the fact that we're talking like friends, and we get a lot of people who stick around, like our pubbies who have joined the site because they wuv our server so much.

Alltalk is one of the highlights of the OCR server and if people want to get omgserious about the game and strategy, keep it to one night a week/month or join another server.

I would hope that random pubbies would realize it's an Alltalk server... the server name has Alltalk in it!

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I would hope that random pubbies would realize it's an Alltalk server... the server name has Alltalk in it!

Unfortunately, most don't seem to realize that & are surprised when they figure it out in game.

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Unfortunately, most don't seem to realize that & are surprised when they figure it out in game.

Speaking of the server name, it still says HLStatsX in it... that's been canceled now, hasn't it?

Nope, I guess not, my HLStatsX page says I was on yesterday.

Edit: Also, my HLStatsX page is... how can I say... better than my other stats pages.

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Yeah, I too dont get the people that join, then after talking shit about the other team, say "Is alltalk on duuuuuuuuuuur", then leave. Way to read the server name.

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Edit: Also, my HLStatsX page is... how can I say... better than my other stats pages.

that's because the other stats are ALWAYS recording information. This includes <6 people and even humiliation rounds.

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Oh, wow. Psychostats records humiliation AND less than six people? Damn...that's a little crazy. I guess it gives people who care about that stuff another incentive to win.

About alltalk, I personally enjoy it. The difference between the OCR server and Random Pub #37 is that the OCR server is more caring and less serious business. I mean, serious business is good and everything, but the ability to just hop on a server and have a good time with everyone from both sides is something that I think sets it above any other server.

I guess what I mean is that alltalk disencourages serious business and encourages people to have fun and not be assholes.

[Edit:]

And, if alltalk were turned off, how would Rambo chastize me about not being on his team?

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I guess what I mean is that alltalk disencourages serious business and encourages people to have fun and not be assholes.

This CAN be true. But it can also facilitate trolling and being an asshole.

And, if alltalk were turned off, how would Rambo chastize me about not being on his team?

Wait, he's got a point.

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To be perfectly honest, the only person I ever really hear talking about what's actually going on in the game is myself, and usually I'm just screaming at people for being terrible.

so turning alltalk off would just limit people for no reason

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Alltalk is one of the highlights of the OCR server and if people want to get omgserious about the game and strategy, keep it to one night a week/month or join another server.

This.

I left to go to a buddies server, since he just got it, and I figured I'd help him out. I just couldn't stand not having alltalk. It just seems so serious, and I was so incredibly bored that I left about 5 minutes later and came back to OCR.

If we have nights of non-alltalk, I probably just won't play. It'll feel too weird.

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I am changing my mind

if alltalk were off I'd have a fifty percent chance of not having to listening to tiddlywink's fucking voice

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Oh come on Bleck, Tiddly aint that bad.

By the way, to all that are keeping tabs, I am in an Air Force Hotel until Monday. There is a Cyber cafe, but it is kinda the pits, just like the rest of the internet on base.

If any one needs to get ahold of me between now and Monday, just send me a PM. I may read it some day.

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and now I'm banned from #ocrtf2 for claiming baha called me a dumbfuck

which he did several minutes beforehand

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