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The only problem with making sure people join and participate in the OCR forums is that many of the people who have slot reservations are friends of other regulars. I know Powerlord, for example, has several friends who use the server, and I'm sure there's many others.

As an alternative, I think we should be a like a swanky country club and "sponsor" people for them to receive a slot reservation. If no OCR forum regulars want to sponsor SpectreShot, then he doesn't get one.

In other words, players don't come to Bahamut to ask for a slot. Instead, regulars go to an admin to receive a slot for someone else. If we don't know or like them, we don't pass the word along.

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i don't see the point in requiring someone be a part of this forum/thread in order to be considered for a reservation slot. The OCRTF2 server has been developing its own community fairly organically over the last year, and with it some folks have decided to stop lurking (you know who you are) and others have joined the forums, if only to post in this thread and say "hi!" once and then go back to pew pew. Seems to me that you can't just force people to join the OCR forum community, and to implement a sweeping change to how reserve slots are handled would probably cause a lot more tension than it relieves... sure, you'll be playing with "ocr people," but then you'll just be part of another insular elitist group of jerkfaces that frowns upon people who don't submit to its will.

also: the people who micspam on the ocr server that aren't spectreshot are: jenga, duckyboy, shpladoink, atma, demitri omni (grandpa deiter), d-lux (captain yahooooooooooo), chadly (during setup and usually not loud), darkesword (same as chadly usually), f4t4l (sound effects for item get!!), and i'm sure i'm missing some but other than that it's probably just pubbers that i pretty much instamute because they can't read the rules and at least give us a chance to say 'don't be a dick' before being a dick. all it takes is a few seconds of 'hay i'm play song' and i'd probably let it slide or at least give 'em chance to stop it before muting them.

ps: spectreshot is a random idiot who came to the server and wouldn't let go of his voice transmit key, after being muted by brushfire for being too offensive, he was unmuted and they recorded that 'heavy meatspin' heavy rush demo, and he invited himself to being a regular since then. i've mostly only tolerated him because other people seemed to like him, and while he can be witty at times he TRIES TOO HARD.

pre-post edit:

word chadly, that actually sounds like a decent suggestion that with some tweaking i'd totally endorse-- most of the regular players i have befriended have come to me to talk to baha to request a reserve slot because they generally don't play at the same time as he does, even though they've put in plenty of time on the server... after a while it gets hard to play regularly because the server is at 24/25 or 25/25 for a large part of the day; once things get rolling the server will stay jumping for a good long while.

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I don't know why people are getting mad that pub democracy did not go their way. Okay just kidding I do know but really, SpectreShot was just one vote, I don't see why he's getting all the flak. Shpla could've just as easily votebanned SpectreShot. And didn't ducky just post a rant about how vote commands were mostly harmless and anyone should have the right to use them at any time for any reason whatsoever?

Also doesn't Chadly have admin? If it's that big a deal you can just cancel the vote.

Edit: I play Disney Afternoon and Pokemon songs, but only during setup. :3

Edit2: WHOLE TEAM IS BABIES.

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Re: Micspam.

One server I play on has a fellow who's pretty good with Heavy. Whenever he kills someone with fists, he plays falconpunch.wav which I'm sure you can guess what it is.

It adds that extra bit of humiliation to it and makes it hilarious, imo.

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I don't know why people are getting mad that pub democracy did not go their way. Okay just kidding I do know but really, SpectreShot was just one vote, I don't see why he's getting all the flak. Shpla could've just as easily votebanned SpectreShot. And didn't ducky just post a rant about how vote commands were mostly harmless and anyone should have the right to use them at any time for any reason whatsoever?

Also doesn't Chadly have admin? If it's that big a deal you can just cancel the vote.

Edit: I play Disney Afternoon and Pokemon songs, but only during setup. :3

Edit2: WHOLE TEAM IS BABIES.

The problem with votebans is that once a ban is set, it's damn near impossible to remove... There is no menu option to unset bans. You have to know the *exact* name, IP address, or Steam ID that got banned. And by Steam ID, I mean the one that consists of the word STEAM_ and a bunch of numbers.

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The problem with votebans is that once a ban is set, it's damn near impossible to remove... There is no menu option to unset bans. You have to know the *exact* name, IP address, or Steam ID that got banned. And by Steam ID, I mean the one that consists of the word STEAM_ and a bunch of numbers.

It can be found by looking at the server logs...but wow it's a pain.

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It can be found by looking at the server logs...but wow it's a pain.

At least it should be in the Sourcemod logs as well... that'd be quicker to search, I think.

Still, I had to try each and every one to unban someone (bonzai I think) last year after they were having connection problems and the server (or Sourcemod) banned them for having too many connection attempts.

I think that one was an IP ban.

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I've thought about micspamming before, but I always get worried about whether or not people would like the music, so I've never really gone through with it. Except for once on Left 4 Dead, when we rushed across the rooftops in Dead Air singing along to Butcher Pete.

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Yeah, I generally don't micspam because people who have music playing can easily get annoyed. Excepting that one night where I played DKC 2 project tracks, but that was special.

Edit: Just to keep everyone up to date, this is the current rotation:

ctf_2fort

cp_granary

pl_badwater

cp_egypt_final

cp_follower

ctf_turbine

cp_steel

pl_goldrush

cp_gravelpit

cp_well

pl_waste

cp_dustbowl

cp_badlands

Suggest changes, or forever hold your peace...or at least unless Powerlord or Fireslash changes it upon suggestions.

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ctf_2fort

cp_granary

pl_badwater

cp_egypt_final

cp_follower

ctf_turbine

cp_steel

pl_goldrush

cp_gravelpit

cp_well

pl_waste

cp_badlands

fixed that for you

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Oh, a map change. That explains how cp_well came up twice in a row.

I really wanted to play pl_waste tonight, but my connection is being weird tonight... even resetting my cable modem and router (which sometimes fixes problems like this) didn't help.

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And didn't ducky just post a rant about how vote commands were mostly harmless and anyone should have the right to use them at any time for any reason whatsoever?

There is a big difference between !voteban and voteban.

!voteban pulls up a voting option, where people opt a yes or no choice to ban a player for 30 minutes. I've only used this option when I had a votekill option, and even then probably twice in recent memory (against tiddly as lulz). Using this command in the manner that Spectre used it is blatant admin abuse, and should be stripped of his reserved slot

voteban takes the 17 people and blah blah blah the thing I use because it's relatively harmless. If Spectre used this, then ahahaha poor shpla that sucks, but no harm done (this is probably not what happened, since this same feature is on atmuh's server, and yeah, he's shpla)

From what shpla said (that the vote needed 70% to pass), I assumed it was the !votemute option, since that seems more likely to have given him those statistics, and I don't think random pubs would take the time to type voteban and then pick shpla, then once that passes, a !voteban type vote comes up and then 70% has to pass. Do you see a bunch of pubs doing that? I do not.

I see them picking the instaban !voteban option, which automatically pulls up a yes/no ban vote.

Also I remember the good old days when a reserved slot meant something. It meant that $3 every month went to the server fees that's what. I'm unsure how to handle the reserved slots best, all I know is I should have one :3

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I have no problem with the vouching system that Chadly proposed, but let me just respond to what Garian said.

Yeah, it's nice that the server has grown organically as a community, but in the end, it's a server for the OCR community. I like playing on our server because I get to play with people that I already know and interact with, people who are into video games and video game music and video game remixes and all that. I don't want to play with Joe the Pubbie, who doesn't give two shits about this community or what we do here, and when it comes down to it I really just don't like playing games online with people that I don't know. I actually don't play TF2 on any other server because of this reason.

I don't think it's too much to ask that people who want a reserve slot should join the forum and post here occasionally. We discuss stuff like map rotations and server events here, and if they play regularly enough to want a reserve slot, then they should take part in those discussions.

EDIT: I also want to say, we should put that one king-of-the-hill map in the rotation. Was it called Garbage Day? We played it last night, and I was really diggin' it.

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Does voteban(and friends) have the usual 1 = yes 2 = no, or whatever, setup? I've always hated that. I know there are revotes and stuff, but still. Sometimes my amazingness[sic] allows me to stay alive in the action long enough to not have a chance to fix my weapon-switch vote.

Votes should run from 6-0... although that would shorten map options on many servers.

Meh. I dunno. I don't play as much as I used to so maybe it's not even an issue.

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Votes should run from 6-0...

+1

I only actually vote on about 1/3 of votes that come up because I switch weapons a lot. :|

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I agree with DS. It started as a server for this community, and that's one of the reasons I keep coming here. I like most of the people, and it has very few pub people to ruin the fun. That's one of the reasons I don't play on the SA servers that much, cause I'm not a huge poster there, and I feel out of place. I don't like coming to someone's house even if I know a guy that knows a guy that hangs out there.

That and I don't think some kind of community participation would hurt, especially if someone regulars the server. We could be nazi fucks about it and require a server validation link and pass etc, but it'd be nice just to have some input on maps on here, you know?

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+1 on Garbage Day. I think I suggested that a while back and got the same response, which is 'it's okay unless it's played regularly or if the teams are unbalanced, then it's awful.' I'm willing to take that risk. If teams are really bad, we can just RTV off it.

+1 for vouching system, although I thought that's what we already did. I'm not terribly knowledgeable. :-/

I'm also of the persuasion that the server itself is growing its own culture, and while it's not separate from the OCR forums, it is certainly distinct. That being said, I do enjoy having a place to talk about it in the form of this thread.

[Edit:]

I think I joined OCR like...a few months, if not weeks, before playing on the server, so I really don't know much of what I'm talking about. Take it with a grain of salt and all that.

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Some update came out today, so I tried joining the OCR server and I ran into an error:

"Server is enforcing consistency for this file:

particles/water_dx80.pcf"

So... my guess is that when TF2 updated, for some reason it didn't grab that file. Then when I exited the program, it got some other random error.

Anyone else having this problem?

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Everyone who updates and then connects will have the problem. The server needs a restart to update itself, till then it's running on the last build.

I messaged Baha and Powerlord, hopefully one of them will get back soon. Fireslash is offline, and to my knowledge they're the only three who can restart it.

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Everyone who updates and then connects will have the problem. The server needs a restart to update itself, till then it's running on the last build.

I messaged Baha and Powerlord, hopefully one of them will get back soon. Fireslash is offline, and to my knowledge they're the only three who can restart it.

restarted.

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