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Lockdown Decision OCR00001-OCR01000

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Please evaluate the following ReMixes for removal from OCR prior to lockdown, with an emphasis on standards violations but also taking quality issues into account where applicable. Please respond by indicating each mix by number, in sequence, and putting a YES or NO next to each - YES if you think it should be removed, NO if you think it shouldn't. Leave mixes you are uncertain regarding blank for now. I'll be voting on this set as well, so you can use my post as a template.

1. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00272

Quake_3_Thalk_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Just sound effects, no game music.

REMOVED

2. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00297

Chrono_Cross_OpenItUp_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Apparently just the original with a drum loop, perhaps sped up. Need to hear original...

REMOVED

3. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00027

Doom_E1M1_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: MIDI rip with instruments changed.

REMOVED

4. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00114

Super_Metroid_Fashion_Techno_Remix.mp3

Reason: Just weird sound effects, no game music.

REMOVED

5. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00024

Secret_of_Mana_Fear_of_heaven_Ben_Lewis_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: SPC with drum loops, author admits to it being essentially so.

REMOVED

6. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00236

Starcraft_EasilyAmused_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Sound effects, no game music.

REMOVED

7. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00020

Super_Mario_Land_Millennium_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: GBS rip with creative processing and drums.

REMOVED

8. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00144

Mega_Man_2_Ending_Trance_Reality_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: NSF rip with drums.

REMOVED

9. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00033

Chuchurocket_DaleNorth_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Drum loop on original. Commercial music - not in game.

REMOVED

10. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00074

Mega_Man_Vejita_CutMan_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: NSF rip with drums.

REMOVED

11. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00142

Mega_Man_2_WeaponGain_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: NSF rip with drums.

REMOVED

12. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00051

Starfox_Space_trip_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Just weird sound effects, no game music.

REMOVED

13. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00242

Startropics_LeafVibe_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Not from any identifiable ingame music.

REMOVED

14. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00049

Mega_Man_3_Topman_Chuck_M_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Quality issues.

REMOVED

15. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00128

Chrono_Trigger_Synthetic_Time_Parasite_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Quality issues.

REMOVED

16. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00039

Chuchurocket_BadCD_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Drum loop on original. Commercial music - not in game.

REMOVED

Update:

17. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00281

Kirby's_Superstar_Wind_Breaker_OC_Remix.mp3

Reason: original with layered scratching/fx

REMOVED

18. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00679

Counterstrike_InTheLineOfFire_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: game had no music

REMOVED

19. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00306

Counterstrike_PaleriderTraining_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: game had no music

REMOVED

20. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00031

Sonic_Labyrinth_Zone_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: If not a MIDI/GYM rip, almost exactly the same

REMOVED

2nd Update

21. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00666

Robocop_CPC_Zone_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Uses original very extensively. However, both drums, bassline, and later synths are additions.

22. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00185

Final_Fantasy_7_OneWingedTechno_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Apparently a MIDI rip. Also, quality issues regardless.

REMOVED

3rd Update

23. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00106

SimCity_Speed_Town_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Original with drums on top. Quality issues.

REMOVED

24. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00315

Koudelka_Requiem(ElectricFlamesMix)_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: samples too extensively from original

REMOVED

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1. Yes (remove)

2. Yes

3. Yes

4. Yes

5. Yes

6. Yes

7. Yes

8. Yes

9. Yes

10. Yes

11. Yes

12. Yes

13. Yes

14. Yes

15. Yes

16. Yes

Update

17. Yes

18. Yes

19. Yes

20. Yes

2nd Update

21. No

22. Yes (MIDI for verification would be nice)

3rd Update

23. Yes

24. Yes

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1. YES

Reason: Just sound effects, no game music.

2. YES

Reason: Most certainly the original with a drum loop,sped up.

3. YES

Reason: MIDI rip with instruments changed.

4. YES

Reason: The original spc not even in sync with the drumloop, and a bunch of distorted sound effects from the game. He somehow managed to make it out of tune as well.

5. YES

Reason: SPC with drum loops.

6. YES

Reason: No SC music whatsoever.

7. YES

Reason: GBS rip + drums.

8. YES

Reason: NSF rip + drums.

9. YES

Reason: Original with drums layered on top. Nice job, fun, but a definate violation :(

10. YES

Reason: NSF rip + drumloop

11. YES

Reason: NSF rip + drumloop

12. YES

Reason: SFX, no Music.

13. YES

Reason: Found the nsf, listened to the whole track. Its not in there.

14. YES

Reason: Its not so much a remix as a huge 2 minute flange effect.

15. YES

Reason: I like the idea, but the quality issues and sanity issues must come into consideration.

16. YES

Chuchurocket_BadCD_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Drum loop on original.

17. YES

Kirby's_Superstar_Wind_Breaker_OC_Remix.mp3

Reason: original with layered scratching/fx

18. YES

Counterstrike_InTheLineOfFire_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Not Game Music

19. YES

Counterstrike_PaleriderTraining_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Not Game Music

20. YES

Reason: exactly the same as original

21. NO

Robocop_CPC_Zone_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Uses original very extensively. But later on theres a ton of original. This is not an extreme violation.

22. YES

Final_Fantasy_7_OneWingedTechno_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Apparently a MIDI rip, But has original values too. Still, its too extreme of a violation.

23. YES

Sim_City_Speed_Town_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: If you listen, its the original played over with some... very ... subpar drums. Anyway, I think it constitutes drums over original.

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No qualms here.

1. YES

2. YES

3. YES

4. YES

5. YES

6. YES

7. YES

8. YES

9. YES

10. YES

11. YES

12. YES

13. YES

14. YES

15. YES

16. YES

17. YES

18. YES

19. YES

20. YES

yadda yadda yadda

21. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00666

Robocop_CPC_Zone_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Uses original very extensively. However, both drums, bassline, and later synths are additions.

NO: Agreed; borderline controversial, but not bad enough

22. :arrow:http://remix.overclocked.org/detailmix.php?mixid=OCR00185

Final_Fantasy_7_OneWingedTechno_OC_ReMix.mp3

Reason: Apparently a MIDI rip. Also, quality issues regardless.

YES: Toss it

23. YES - NO THANKS

24. YES

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1. Yes (remove)

2. Yes

3. Yes

4. Yes

5. Yes

6. Yes

7. Yes

8. Yes

9. Yes

10. Yes

11. Yes

12. Yes

13.

14. Yes

15. Yes

16. Yes

I think I'll go wash my ears out now.

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I'm YES for all three of those. Having also played Counter-Strike for about three years or so, I can reinforce Prot's statement by also pointing out that there is indeed NO music in that game.

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Hi guys, finally got hold of all of these, and I agree with everyone that they should be removed.

1. Yes

2. Yes

3. Yes

4. Yes

5. Yes

6. Yes

7. Yes

8. Yes

9. Yes

10. Yes

11. Yes

12. Yes

13. Yes

14. Yes

15. Yes

16. Yes

...will still have to look at Protricity's suggestions for removal...

-Jive

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i have access to a computer today, i'll try to vote on these later this evening. and yes, prot, the general bitch-level has gone up over the past week, but i havent been on in the past two days, so i havent gotten any complaints regarding mix removals.

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One last one that 3 people bitched at me for.

Btw, is anyone else getting this degree of bitching? I think I might have to remove my aim info from the forums or something.

Castlevania_Adventure_CV2K_OC_ReMix.mp3

Apparently an nsf + drumloop with minor remixing skills.

Personally, I dont believe this is an 'extreme violation', but I do agree that it borrowed WAY heavily from other sources, drumloop and original.

What do you guys think?

Not extreme enough, not as bad as the other examples, orchestrates more on top than just drums. Honestly, not saying that just because it's McV, it really does do more than NSF+drumloop.

UPDATE:

Prot's three additions, as well as a Sonic Labyrinth Zone ReMix that's almost certainly a rip of some nature - or far too close to the original - have been added. Please update you votes accordingly.

We have a consensus on 1-16, so I will proceed with their removal at this point in time.

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17. Kirby's_Superstar_Wind_Breaker_OC_Remix.mp3

18. Counterstrike_InTheLineOfFire_OC_ReMix.mp3

19. Counterstrike_PaleriderTraining_OC_ReMix.mp3

20. Sonic_Labyrinth_Zone_OC_ReMix.mp3

17. Yes remove it

18. Yes

19. Yes

20. Yes

The Counterstrike mixes were mixes of samples than anything else.

These are CS mixes. I've played CS, it has no soundtrack. Though its kinda unfortunate that that means no CS remixes ever, the point still stands that a game cannot have remixed music if it has no music.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

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21: Borderline, but the latter synth work makes up for the use of the original (in my opinion). If we throw this away, we have to get rid of Tetris Quasiultramix or whatever vaf's thingamy is called. KEEPER

22: Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with everyone else on this one. It's pretty much the same. LOSER

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And another:

Sim_City_Speed_Town_OC_ReMix.mp3

If you listen, its the original played over with some... very ... subpar drums. Anyway, I think it constitutes drums over original.

And Another:

Koudelka_Requiem(ElectricFlamesMix)_OC_ReMix.mp3

This is at Pordon's request. It is indeed track1.mp3 with drums over it and some flanging. He did some repeating, but thats all.

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