Sarifus Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Hey there! I'm new here, just joined. Something that's been annoying me for years was that the Frozen Throne cinematic music was never released, so the other day I got round to making my own sequenced/recorded version of it from ear. Not really a 'remix' per se - rather, I have attempted here to recreate the original piece. Let me know what you think. It's uploaded here; http://www.freewebs.com/stevenarrangements/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red9 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 link? i sense not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarifus Posted November 14, 2008 Author Share Posted November 14, 2008 link? i sense not I'm sorry? There's a link in my post...=S Below the "it's uploaded here" I linked http://www.freewebs.com/stevenarrangements/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 Well this is impressive, even if it's not a remix. Do you compose for video games by chance? Because these samples are definitely not something that an amateur would have. Can you hook me up with some of them samps ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarifus Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 Well this is impressive, even if it's not a remix. Do you compose for video games by chance? Because these samples are definitely not something that an amateur would have. Can you hook me up with some of them samps ? Heya! Thanks for the comment, and thanks for the interest! I don't produce music for actual commercial projects yet (though I plan to), but I do compose for mods and higher quality fanmade stuff - I'm composing for Ryan's Rapture at the moment, which is a semi-professional fanmade BioShock prequel animated series. I always want to generate as high sound quality as possible - sometimes I make my own samples, sometimes recording live instruments and sounds here and there; but usually I use sampled instruments as a base - East West Quantum Leap Symphonic Orchestra is really good for both price and quality. £100 ($200) gives you a full sampled orchestra with all the important instruments with basic articulations. I also use symphonic choirs, and RA from the same series. (RA is ethnic instruments.) For the choir in this, I used a combination of symphonic choirs and my own voice multitracked, to get both a big sound of a full choir, and the clarity of a real voice. It's the best techniquen I've found for producing a real sounding choir without having an actual choir at one's disposal hehe. "Vienna Symphonic Orchestra" is also a really really good sampled library - probably the best orchestral library - but they are also really really expensive...I would only consider paying for them if I was working for a big budget company and had thousands of pounds to spare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red9 Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 i have two things to say. 1st. wow 2nd. nothing says i'm a profession than an excellant track and some quality software, it shows some initiative. that vocal set idea is very creative indeed it comes acrost very well and sounds very orcish to say the least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 $200 for E/W orch eh...tempting. Though I know that the E/W symphonic choirs is disgustingly expensive too :^( Sweet idea with your own voice. OCR needs some more decent vocalists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarifus Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 i have two things to say.1st. wow 2nd. nothing says i'm a profession than an excellant track and some quality software, it shows some initiative. that vocal set idea is very creative indeed it comes acrost very well and sounds very orcish to say the least Hey, thanks a lot! I'm glad you liked it! =) I've posted one of my original pieces in the non-remix section if you want to check it out. Having the software definitely does help - even if you're fantastic at composing, knowing about the software and producing a good digital result is very important, I think - because when you hear a piece of music, it's not just the notes that matter, and it's not just the notes that you hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarifus Posted November 16, 2008 Author Share Posted November 16, 2008 $200 for E/W orch eh...tempting. Though I know that the E/W symphonic choirs is disgustingly expensive too :^( Sweet idea with your own voice. OCR needs some more decent vocalists Hehe ^^. I did buy EWQLSO and SC and RA separately...I annoyingly found later you can get it all in a bundle called "Collossus" I think, which sounds as though it gives you all that, and some other stuff - it includes Ministry of Rock I think - for much cheaper. That really annoyed me. But meh. They are very good sampled sets - good enough to produce a really good quality sound, and if you just record a live instrument and voice here and there, it get a truly professional-sounding result, I think. And that saves you the £6000 ($12000) you'd otherwise spend on Vienna Symphonic library 0_o I believe Choirs and RA are both the same price - around £250 ($500). But as I say, Collossus seems to give you these and more for twice that much, which seems a very good deal - you get the gold orchestra, choirs, ra, ministry of rock for the price of the Choirs and RA separately. Again, I was rather annoyed when I discovered that >.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKa Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 Hehe ^^. I did buy EWQLSO and SC and RA separately...I annoyingly found later you can get it all in a bundle called "Collossus" I think, which sounds as though it gives you all that, and some other stuff - it includes Ministry of Rock I think - for much cheaper. That really annoyed me. But meh. They are very good sampled sets - good enough to produce a really good quality sound, and if you just record a live instrument and voice here and there, it get a truly professional-sounding result, I think. And that saves you the £6000 ($12000) you'd otherwise spend on Vienna Symphonic library 0_oI believe Choirs and RA are both the same price - around £250 ($500). But as I say, Collossus seems to give you these and more for twice that much, which seems a very good deal - you get the gold orchestra, choirs, ra, ministry of rock for the price of the Choirs and RA separately. Again, I was rather annoyed when I discovered that >.> well, as my artist name suggests...I am essentially a hobo. =( so it won't be a while till I can afford that stuff /emokidcry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarifus Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 well, as my artist name suggests...I am essentially a hobo. =( so it won't be a while till I can afford that stuff /emokidcry Aww....=( There is the advantage though, that if you can save up for it, you then have it for life - you don't have to pay for a venue and players and rehearsals. You've got a professional quality set of samples permanantly, accessable at the touch of a button. That's one thing I really love about these things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uranai Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 You a realli nice song there. The choir sounds incredible. I'd love to provide some more helpful review isntead of just prasing, but I don't think I know a lot about orcestra mxing. I'd love to hear some heavy guitars and drums along that orchestra, some symphonic-metal-esque stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozovian Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 You know, I doubt many of us have neither venue, players, or rehearsals in their homes. At least not of this type. Would hardly be practical be stuff an orchestra in your closet. Would be cool, but not practical. Anyway, I had to hear this. Everyone says how cool it is. Just to be nonconformist, I gotta find something to complain about, something to crit. Can't say anything bad about the choir or overall sound, those are awesome. Hah, low brass is a little sampled sounding. Or wait, is that how low brass really does sound? 2:20 brass - another thing that doesn't sound pwnsome! Hah! Gets a bit too quiet for my tastes before the actual ending... which comes in a little too sudden. For my tastes anyway. Brass and my own taste were the only problems I could hear. You should turn this into a remix. Or remix it from scratch. Whatever. It would be awesome, if not pwnsome. Great, great piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarifus Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 You know, I doubt many of us have neither venue, players, or rehearsals in their homes. At least not of this type. Would hardly be practical be stuff an orchestra in your closet. Would be cool, but not practical.Anyway, I had to hear this. Everyone says how cool it is. Just to be nonconformist, I gotta find something to complain about, something to crit. Can't say anything bad about the choir or overall sound, those are awesome. Hah, low brass is a little sampled sounding. Or wait, is that how low brass really does sound? 2:20 brass - another thing that doesn't sound pwnsome! Hah! Gets a bit too quiet for my tastes before the actual ending... which comes in a little too sudden. For my tastes anyway. Brass and my own taste were the only problems I could hear. You should turn this into a remix. Or remix it from scratch. Whatever. It would be awesome, if not pwnsome. Great, great piece. Hey there - thanks for the crit! In terms of it getting quiet, it just does that as part of the cutscene - and the same goes for the ending. This isn't necessarily how a person would write a piece of music by itself, but Jason Hayes originally wrote it for a Warcraft cutscene, so it's very much based around what's happening. The brass samples...hmm. All the instruments here are digital - except for my voice - but sampled in this case certainly does mean recorded from a live instrument. So every brass note you hear is an actual recording. I think low notes played loud with quite a few players does sound pretty like that - it's just very clearly recorded with a close mic, as opposed to recorded from a distance in a concert hall. That could be the reason it sounds strange? 2:20 - the chordal swell, with trumpets and choir? Did you think something sounded off there? I've made a complete audio reconstruction of the scene (with this music, also added sounds effects and did the voice acting) and uploaded it on youtube if you or anyone else wants to see it in full context http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=NLLC0tnAtDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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