Hy Bound Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 http://www.propellerheads.se/products/record/ So yeah, it looks like propellerhead has been working up to this kind of thing for a while. Anyone else think this looks cool? Personally, I have to say since it doesnt look like it adds any vst support that it kind of looks like a rip-off. The interface looks neat and comprehensive, but it looks like just another add-on to Reason than an altogether different product. Voice your 'pinion here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analoq Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 It's a bit odd they tout this for "musicians" instead of "recording engineers" and yet the mixing board is directly based off an SSL that only recording engineers would be familiar with. Also... requires a dongle?? Anyway, I welcome Propellerheads' contribution to this market. The more competition there is, the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 The automatic audio tempo following is interesting, but otherwise it looks like a homebuilt 64 bit version of SONAR 2.0 to me (which also didn't support VST). My gut reaction to the clip is that it's still too complex for very casual music makers (apparently their target market?), but not powerful enough to compete with other sequencers on the market at the $300 price point. What they SHOULD do is market it as a live-recording-centered competitor to FL Studio in the $100-$200 range. That could make some waves. I get a chuckle out of the marketing though. "smug engineers" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moseph Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 In its capacity as a $150 upgrade for people who already have Reason (OMG now Reason can do audio!), it could be a success. The lack of VST support could prove crippling in trying to compete with other DAWs, though. With Reason, the lack of VST support is acceptable when you view it as basically a plug-in suite -- Reason is expandable because it can be ReWired into DAWs; with Record, you're basically boxed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Yeah, I think this is more of a Reason upgrade or expansion than viable standalone product. The lack of VST integration is really bad, but not when you factor in Reason devices. Additionally, the timestretching is absolutely sick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abg Posted May 13, 2009 Share Posted May 13, 2009 Looks pretty nice I guess. I don't think I really "get" this product- don't these features already exist in every other major DAW? The time strectching seems nice but I thought Live does the same thing (I don't use Live though so who knows). Seems like the whole point is the easier to use workflow, and I do appreciate how ease of use changes and speeds up the creative process. Well, I guess I'm not the target market so I'll just sit back and see how its recieved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Only major innovation I really saw was the time stretching, which is freakin amazing, but other than that it looks like a linear recording DAW. For $250 what seperates it from all of the linear ones that have been around forever, cubase, sonar, live, etc. What is the matter with them and hating VSTs, it doesn't make sense, they could sell twice as many copies if they just integrated that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analoq Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 If there were a good way to add VST/AU support they would've done it. Like Reason, Record uses the "rack" concept to represent signal flow. It is a unique, consistent interface that would be compromised by integrating AU/VST support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenPi Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 I was actually gonna write something about this. I think its really awesome (especially for reason users). as a standalone, yeah I dont see it being very popular, but as a reason addition its incredibly awesome. I signed up to beta test, so I'll let you guys know what I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zircon Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Looks pretty nice I guess. I don't think I really "get" this product- don't these features already exist in every other major DAW? The time strectching seems nice but I thought Live does the same thing (I don't use Live though so who knows). Seems like the whole point is the easier to use workflow, and I do appreciate how ease of use changes and speeds up the creative process.Well, I guess I'm not the target market so I'll just sit back and see how its recieved. The timestretching is way better than any other app I've seen. Ridiculous realtime stretching with NO artifacts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 The timestretching is way better than any other app I've seen. Ridiculous realtime stretching with NO artifacts. I didn't see where it said it was realtime. Unless you know otherwise, I would assume that the timestretching is just like any other app (say SONAR) where the pitch/tempo stretched stuff should sound *ok* realtime, but generally artifact free only on export.I was mainly impressed that it would automatically stretch the audio, whereas in SONAR you'd either have to make each individual audio clip a "groove clip", or "slip edit" each clip to match your new tempo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Watch the demonstration video, it's realtime time stretching, and it's very impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmony Posted May 14, 2009 Share Posted May 14, 2009 Ok, yeah I missed him saying "realtime" the first time I watched it. I'll still hold on to some of my skepticism though until I see an actual demo of it sounding that clean during a tempo automation with the online stretching algorithm (not after export). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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