CelestialSonata Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 Does anyone know of any sites or have presets for EQing guitar? I'm trying to get a good sound out of my guitar. I'm using the following plugins on guitar input mixer track: Nick Crow Wagner Mk2 Sharp (Drive 10, Bass 10, Mid 5, Treble, 5, Power Amp 5, Master 5) keFIR (mono) with Mesa Boogie Studio 22 331 Edge 48s.wav (Mix 100%, Gain -35.6dB, Length 0.05 sec/6%) Fruity Parametric EQ2 I have no idea how to set the Fruity Parametric EQ2 to get a good distorted sound out of my guitar. It often sounds like it's far away. Ideally, I want it to sound like Sixto's "The Path to Glory ~Theme of Bartz~" guitar. Also, is it better to record it flat then EQ the recorded guitar? Or should I keep the EQ plugin on the guitar input mixer track? Much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunahorum Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 All I know is I usually end up cutting around 200-400 and severely cutting under 200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelestialSonata Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 Yea, that's the muddiness area right, around 250-800Hz? When I listen to the recorded guitar, it sounds like it's not playing along well with the rest of the track, as in it's not blending. I think part of it is that it sounds like it's distant and I'm trying to get it to sound like the guitar is closer to the listener without having it sound too loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 EDIT: I didn't read, sorry. As far as close vs. far, make sure it's not washed out with reverb. Make sure you're double tracking rhythm guitars, and make ABSOLUTELY SURE you're not just cutting out large areas of the frequencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 All I know is I usually end up cutting around 200-400 and severely cutting under 200 Pretty much this for Rhythm guitar. Lead guitar I don't really do much EQing at all outside of dropping the highs a little. But it's your call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelestialSonata Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 I tried out Guitar Rig 4 and fell in love with it, it got me the sound I've been trying to get. When doubling tracking rhythm guitars, is that simply duplicating the rhythm guitar track on top of the other or should I rerecord it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Duplicating the same recording would just make it louder. The fatness comes from actually recording it twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Duplicating the same recording would just make it louder. The fatness comes from actually recording it twice. You also need to pan right and left. Make the first one 75% left, make the second 75% right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelestialSonata Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 Since each is panned differently, they'll need to go on different mixer tracks. Should I apply the exact same EQ on both tracks or should it differ slightly? These are great tips! Can't wait to rerecord and listen to the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 You also need to pan right and left.Make the first one 75% left, make the second 75% right. Who says there should only be 2, even? All of the rock musicians in the community I know of (save for M-H) use 4 rhythm guitar tracks, and where they're panned differs among people as well. I like to have two 80% left and two 80% right. Some have one 100% left, one 50% left, one 50% right, and one 100% right, like Nekofrog. If 2 works for you like it does for M-H, then go for it, but I've always had much better results using 4. Here's a little demonstration of my tone. Pardon the horribly off-key leads. http://tindeck.com/listen/knrb EDIT: I apply the same EQ to all 4 of my tracks but try it out and see how it works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishy Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I've always used two, panned 100% L/R. If you play them tight enough there's no need for more. I can see the benefit of doing 4 for super heavy metal, but for anything else I spend the time getting two tracks perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nabeel Ansari Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Who says there should only be 2, even? All of the rock musicians in the community I know of (save for M-H) use 4 rhythm guitar tracks, and where they're panned differs among people as well. I like to have two 80% left and two 80% right. Some have one 100% left, one 50% left, one 50% right, and one 100% right, like Nekofrog. If 2 works for you like it does for M-H, then go for it, but I've always had much better results using 4. Here's a little demonstration of my tone. Pardon the horribly off-key leads. http://tindeck.com/listen/knrb EDIT: I apply the same EQ to all 4 of my tracks but try it out and see how it works for you. Almost all of the rock musicians I know on this site use 2 except for Nekofrog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuketheXjesse Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I can see the benefit of doing 4 for super heavy metal, but for anything else I spend the time getting two tracks perfect. Why would you want to make anything else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelestialSonata Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 For the sake of time and until I develop a better ear, I'll go with two and make it perfect. I'll experiment with four sometime next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warfighter67 Posted March 30, 2011 Share Posted March 30, 2011 I would do 4, if my computer could handle 4 .. most of the time, since I use a lot of layering and VST in my music, most of the RAM and CPU power is already being used up. If I tried adding 1 or 2 more tracks for guitar, My computer would crash, xD. I have 2 guitar, panned 90% L/R for rhythm. For my EQ, I have recently just been cutting <100Hz on rhythm and leads. Also, to make things more interesting, I sometimes have 2 Leads, panned 20-30 L/R. I have one done that with one track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nekofrog Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 I've always used two, panned 100% L/R. If you play them tight enough there's no need for more.I can see the benefit of doing 4 for super heavy metal, but for anything else I spend the time getting two tracks perfect. I'm going to bump this several months late because this is the first time I've read this (NO I DIDN'T DO A SEARCH OF MY USERNAME TO SEE WHO'S POSTED ABOUT ME IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS TO STROKE MY EGO SHUT UP LEAVE ME ALONE) I have only ever had two tracks 100%L/R work for me. I don't know what mix of alchemy and chicanary I used but it worked that one time and never again. I just prefer 4 good, solid takes of VERY LOW GAIN GUITARS (talking almost clean, only a little bit of distortion) to make a huge sound. You wouldn't think low gain could = huge gain, but it works. And I don't use compression/EQ in any post stuff, so it's direct in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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