Liontamer Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 btw, this remix is cool. just sayin'... It begs to be said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick The Newbie Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 how much a remix "reflects the tone" of the source tune has nothing to do with how much of a remix includes recognizable pieces of the source tuneawesome remix, great job! Maybe I'm not explaining myself properly? I'm not saying like how upbeat or grungy or UNTZ it is when I say "tone". I'm saying that if i were to play an original piece of music, and then dub just the melody of a video game song on top of it, the original song I've created doesn't then become an arrangement of the vg song just because they have the same key and tempo. Let me reiterate here that I think spring junkie is very enjoyable, I just think the second half is more demonstrative of it being an "arrangement" than the first half is, regardless of the existence of the places where source melody pops up in the first half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince uf Darkness Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 Considering you didn't follow your own POV when looking at "Spring Junkie," I don't see why you'd say that. The standards also don't exclude what you're claiming they exclude. But I did. I guess this where we're just going to have to agree to disagree on what really defines a song. In my opinion, if you take a song and mute the melody, you'll have more of that song than muting everything except the melody, especially in an arrangement. Of course I understand the logic behind wanting to have the majority of the song have melody, but I'm just saying that that shouldn't necessarily apply to every genre of music. If THPOB was a completely different song, totally unrelated to the chord progression and feel of the source, I would probably agree with it having lack of source. Anyway, I think what strikes me the most about this song is the main drum/bass/keys theme from 0:00-1:30 and again from 1:56-2:43 basically being the main theme of the song. I can't find anything remotely sounding like it in the source. If you want to go all stopwatchy, those sections total 137 seconds, which is more than half of the song. wuv u larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillRock Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 For me the source content lies from 1:05-1:33 (source melody usuage with some minor variations) then 1:40 to 1:57 is the Chorus Melody. 2:24-3:03 is the source slowed down with melody usuage, Chords at the end are different to the source - the second chord in the 4 chord sequence is changed from the 3rd to 1st, but its recognisable enough to me. My feeling is that its the intro thats the problem source wise, and while its liberal, you can tell its suppose to be spring yard imo. I could. Overall, I'd count at the very least 1:30 of source material... I have a feeling it would probably have passed the panel but this probably should have been judged, rather than DP in my personal opinion, due to the liberal nature of the remix. That being said, I do enjoy this remix. I can see both sides of the argument but I think there is enough connection to the source for those to hear that are looking for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halc Posted April 13, 2011 Share Posted April 13, 2011 appreciate the comments everyone. glad y'all like the mix regardless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giga Bowser Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 Not just me who loved this but also my 6 year old bro XD he noticed by himself that its a sonic remix:shock: well its now in his blood he'll never forget this wonderful sonic remix collaboration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperiorX Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 when I listen to this mix, I'd have ZERO problems identifying it as Spring Yard/Sonic. Yeah, I mean the spring noises in the very beginning of the song don't give it away or anything... I really like this mix, even if it is more "liberal". I actually prefer a more 50/50 or 60 source/40 original composition anyway. If we're keeping 90-100% source but just changing instrumentation or structure, what is the fun in that? Improvisation feeds an artist's creativity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crulex Posted April 14, 2011 Share Posted April 14, 2011 I flat out loved this ReMix and enjoyed that the sound effects were put to good uses over the course of the song. I really got a casino/sexy lane feeling from this ReMix before it faded with the nice chill out ending filling with gulping. It's just a very sexy and well done ReMix and I had no problems hearing the source tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Different standards need to be taken for different genres Pud makes some really good points Also I take full responsibility for the last "chorus" bit being recognizable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Doom Posted January 19, 2015 Share Posted January 19, 2015 I had no problems hearing the source tune. Seconded. Anyway, for me, THIS is a classic halc tune. Chippy, mellow and very sexy <3 Gotta say that the bass here is terrific. And EP is also very tasty. The SFXs are nicely used as well. The whole thing sounds quite suitable for a casino. Speaking about source usage, I had really big problem recognizing Labyrinth Zone, but to my mind it's a good thing, so well it's incorporated here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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