Lynnfire Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I haven't seen and Killer Instinct "Killer Cuts" remixes anywhere - and I'm wondering if it's taboo in the community to remix someone else's remix"? http://youtu.be/QcoeyDvyojQ?hd=1&t=13s For instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirby Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 I haven't seen and Killer Instinct "Killer Cuts" remixes anywhere - and I'm wondering if it's taboo in the community to remix someone else's remix"?http://youtu.be/QcoeyDvyojQ?hd=1&t=13s For instance. Though I am not certain of OCR's stances on accepting remixes of remixes, Dwelling of Duels held a Re-Cover Month last August; artists were tasked with remixes songs by previous DoD participants. And Prince of Darkness remixed SnappleMan's "Dead Batteries" off the Sonic 3 album back in June '10. So it's definitely not taboo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozovian Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 You might be mistaken about the kind of remixes ocr is about. We write our own arrangements and produce them ourselves, and typically don't use any of the original audio, the same goes for a lot of vgm remixers in the scene. I could be mistaken, but a quick listen to the example you linked didn't reveal anything drastically different from the original, so there's no reason to remix the remix. Can't speak for the entire remixing scene, but that's how I see it. To turn your question around, why would anyone remix a remix when they can remix the original? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillRock Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 You can remix any track thats made specifically for the game. If the track is a remix of a non-video game track, but the remix makes it into a video game, its a no (exception is tetris). However, to my knowedge, the judges allow you to pick the precise audio that you're remixing as long as the original was from a game. Say if you chose to remix the Dark World music from Super Smash Bros Brawl rather than the original from a Link to the Past, I assume they'd let you since the two are distinct versions in their own right and could influence the writing process of your remix. It might be worth another judge coming in just to clarify tho, just in case i'm wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palpable Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 Remixes of remixes are allowable under the standards, but I don't know of any that have passed. Here's our decision for one that did not. Check out our comments on that thread for more information about how a remix remix could be passable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpretzel Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00704/ This was kinda-sorta a remix of a remix, but as previously noted, it was more of an arrangement of an arrangement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio Pizza Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 How about Shnabubla doing a piano cover of zircon/sixto's "Subterranean Kamikaze" from TMNT 4? In the end I suppose it would come down to the talent of the artist(s). And just because something does not qualify for the submission standards doesn't mean it couldn't be posted in the Workshop forum. Can't post ≠ taboo. Can't post = doesn't meet site guidelines/requirements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liontamer Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 What's the deal on remixing remixes? Well... 5. Submissions that are revisions or new versions of existing, posted ReMixes will only be evaluated as additions, not as replacements, and must be substantially different. Revisions are not encouraged and may be held to higher standards. So, you can, but it still has to pass all other standards AND stand apart enough from both the original source material and the arrangement being arranged. That includes little-to-no direct sampling of the original audio, i.e. you can't do traditional remixing/sampling. http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00763/ http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01251/ http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00620/ http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00704/ If you were to base something off an existing VGM arrangement that's not an OC ReMix, similar rules apply, but we do have at least one. http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01164/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garpocalypse Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Well...So, you can, but it still has to pass all other standards AND stand apart enough from both the original source material and the arrangement being arranged. That includes little-to-no direct sampling of the original audio, i.e. you can't do traditional remixing/sampling. http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00763/ http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01251/ http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00620/ http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR00704/ If you were to base something off an existing VGM arrangement that's not an OC ReMix, similar rules apply, but we do have at least one. http://ocremix.org/remix/OCR01164/ (GarA)Sooooo, If I did Epic Melodic Death Ska versions of all of Mcvaffe's remixes they would still pass? (GarB) Answer: No they wouldn't because you suck Gar. No really, this might be a good idea for a future compo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirby Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Like I said in my post, Dwelling of Duels did a Re-cover month that was basically that. So it's already been done. Not that it shouldn't be done again, of course. XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Strader Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Oh this is cool news. I did a heavy remix of Age of Aggression and then everyone started saying to make Age of Oppression. So it'd essentially be a remix of a remix using the same structure, but acoustically. Good to know it'd have a chance here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Briggs Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I haven't seen and Killer Instinct "Killer Cuts" remixes anywhere - and I'm wondering if it's taboo in the community to remix someone else's remix"?http://youtu.be/QcoeyDvyojQ?hd=1&t=13s For instance. "killer cuts" is not a remix album it is simply the title of killer instinct's original soundtrack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rozovian Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 "killer cuts" is not a remix albumit is simply the title of killer instinct's original soundtrack No wonder they sounded similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Briggs Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I can understand the confusion, especially for someone who didn't own the original disc, which usually came packaged alongside a new Super NES and the game itself I'm pretty sure the disc is the full-production music they used for the arcade game, and if anything the SNES versions are "remixes" or "demakes" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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