BaconProcurement Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 (edited) The Gym Leader Tribute Project The Concept Pokemon, it really needs no introduction, as it has become one of the most successful franchises in gaming history due to its innovative design and gameplay. One of the staples of this series is the Gym Leaders, Pokemon Trainers tasked with testing the battling prowess of up and coming trainers. All of which specialize in a certain type of Pokemon. Defeating them is no easy task and they stand in your way of becoming a champion. And they have stories of their own to tell. This project’s aim is to create musical vocal interpretations of each Gym Leader based on the track (or otherwise) of the town they reside in. And it seems like the Elite Four and Region Champions want in on this unrequited love too. Genre and Track Guidelines There is no set genre restriction for this project. Rock, Hip-hop, Reggae, Latin music, and yes, even country music is fare-game but they must have vocals in the ReMix. Here is the list of Gym Leaders and track sources associated to them. For the most part, source #1 is going to be the main source for the track, whereas the rest are optional. Other sources you can use are the Gym Theme, which plays in every single Gym in every Pokemon game (I don’t think I really need to post a link to that.) and Battle Against Gym Leader theme in the respective games they appear in. Other sources that are okay should relate to the Gym Leaders primary Pokemon type. What I mean is that if you choose a Gym Leader that specializes in water Pokemon, the surfing theme is acceptable. Grass and Bug type Gym Leaders can also have forest themes. Just pick sources within reason and in the same games they are from. Just remember that source #1 is the “meat and potatoes” of the ReMix. Don’t go over board with adding as many sources as possible. It should have some consistency to it. And yes I’m aware that some of the Gym Leaders have the same town/city theme in the earlier games. So what I did was pick tracks from the same game to offer variety and in some cases actually work better for them. (Like Sabrina having the Silph Co. track instead of the same track used in Pewter and Viridian City.) Claiming Tracks Its first come first serve regarding claiming a Gym Leader. Just simply post your claim in the thread or PM me and I’ll add you to the list. If you aren’t a posted remixer, I’ll need some sort of samples of your work before quickly placing you on the list. Having trouble writing lyrics? Here is the complete list of Gym Leaders on Bulbapedia to get rough ideas on their personality. There are also episodes of the anime available to watch on-line that feature battles against Gym Leaders to get a feel for them. Also, don’t knock off the Gym Leaders within the Pokemon Adventures Manga either. Most notable differences between the manga counterparts than the games and anime is that Lt. Surge, Sabrina, and Koga are all members of Team Rocket, Lance and the Elite Four are the main villains of the Yellow arc and there’s Pryce. (Just know that his role in the Gold/Silver arc is spoiler territory and proceed with caution if you don’t like spoilers. ) Hopefully, this will get you some ideas but you don’t have to follow them closely. Your own imagination about them is just as good. Regarding the lyrics themselves, it can be emotive or silly. Again, no set preference. Who is needed? Arrangers - to well claim tracks and produce the music. Lyricists - to write lyrics that compliment the Gym Leaders. And most importantly, vocalist. If you can sing but don't have the production chops, get in contact with someone who has claimed a track to help out. Hey, you never know until you ask politely. About me: Been a gamer for most of my life (since I was 4 years old). Pokemon is without a doubt one of the franchises that I cherished as a kid and as an adult. I probably can't even fathom the amount of time I sinked into this series. Just about every aspect of the this series I love. The battle system is surprisingly deeper than I thought, the art desgins of the Pokemon are excellent, and I love learning about the inspiration of said Pokemon designs. I highly doubt I'll abandon this series anytime soon. (BTW, Glaceon, Mismagius, Mawhile, and Luxray are some of my favorite Pokemon. Favorite Gym Leader is Misty.) Current News: (Artistic representation of the project) Right now I just want to focus on the Kanto Gym Leaders so if you want to claim a Gym Leader consider them first before jumping to Sinnoh or Unova. If you really want to claim Roxie or Clement I’ll put you on the list. Just know that it may take awhile when we get to that region as this project is going to focus on one PokeRegion at a time. That way I can call it the Kanto Version of the Gym Leader Tribute! As of right now, there is no WIP deadline but if there is it would probably be March/April of 2015. Again, I'm just going to focus on filling the Kanto slots until I figure out a solid date. Also if you are interested in contributing but only have vocal chops say so and I’ll add you to a hand and dandy list that will make it easier for someone that wants to collab with you. Need male and female vocalists to contribute. If you have anything else to contribute, like possible artwork designs for sigs, or other suggestions I may need, I’m all ears. Since I have never done this sort of thing before, any help and advice is welcome. 4/1 update: Just asking around and looking for potential folks to contribute. It's a process that has been fruitful so far. Current Kanto Claims: Amphibious - Misty Wildfire - Sabrina Ethan Rex - Giovanni Possible vocalists to consider BrothaDom (M) Orangedragan (M) - baritone Xarnax42 (M) Wildfire (F) MangaMan (M) Natalya Zarraga (F) angaros (M) - preferably towards rock/metal arrangements Furilas (M) - bass Analea (F) - soprano Miscellaneous XPRTNovice - willing to collab as long as a part is written for a sax, clarinet, guitar, etc. Founder (and master spreadsheet maker): BaconProcurement Production Consultant: Timaeus222 (Mad Genius: DarkeSword) Edited June 1, 2014 by BaconProcurement Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkeSword Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I think this would be cool as a fully vocal album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrothaDom Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Just gonna pop and agree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamJars Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I third this idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconProcurement Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 I think this would be cool as a fully vocal album. Now that you mention it, that could definitely work. I figure that whoever picked a Gym Leader they could do whatever they felt represented that character in their own way. Now they can do it in the style of Ninja Sex Party's and Egoraptor's Starbomb album or like Weird Al! (Both of whom made Pokemon songs.) I wonder what Giovanni is going to be singing about? Taking over the world perhaps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyRiderX Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I really like this idea! Sounds pretty solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PixelPanic Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 (edited) Been working on a similar thing, actually. Concept songs for different gym leaders, in the same key as the original, but with different chords/melodies so-as to stand up on their own. I'm interested, but I don't want to full commit right now. For example, my Brock one is about going up to the mountains, hoping a sabbatical will help a failing relationship. It's not really about Brock but the concept was around Mt. Moon and uses the key of the Pewter theme. Edited January 10, 2014 by PixelPanic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Rex Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 I really like the idea of this but I think it might run a bit smoother if you focus on a region at a time as to prevent remixes being spread out over all regions with nothing getting completed for a whole region. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconProcurement Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 I really like the idea of this but I think it might run a bit smoother if you focus on a region at a time as to prevent remixes being spread out over all regions with nothing getting completed for a whole region. I get the feeling that is going to happen anyway as most people are going to be drawn towards one Gen over another. Since Gen 1 is so nostalgic for a lot of people, that Gen would probably go first anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yeah, but at the same time, I've heard people say that Gen 3 has the "best" music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DusK Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Virbank City remix made to capture the personality of Roxie would probably be the most challenging remix I've ever done, and I'd totally give it a shot. And going with Shariq's idea, if I could find some badass rock-attitude female vocalist to complete it... damn, that'd be my mix of 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melbu Frahma Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yeah, but at the same time, I've heard people say that Gen 3 has the "best" music. I've always preferred Gen 2, myself. Then again, I've never listened to any of the music past Gen 4. It's a great idea, and I think the dividing by region idea is a good one. You could do it a la DarkeSword's FF5 album idea - make each region an installment of the whole, with a track for each gym, and maybe a ninth track combining the Elite Four/champion themes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconProcurement Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yeah, but at the same time, I've heard people say that Gen 3 has the "best" music. That's entirely subjective but I will admit, the tracks in Gen 3 tend to be more "catchy". Just look at Petalburg City where Norman is at. It made me raise an eyebrow when I first heard it playing the game. Gen 5 has some great tracks too, like Castelia City and Driftveil City. Virbank City remix made to capture the personality of Roxie would probably be the most challenging remix I've ever done, and I'd totally give it a shot.And going with Shariq's idea, if I could find some badass rock-attitude female vocalist to complete it... damn, that'd be my mix of 2014. After listening to that theme, it would be a really interesting challenge consider your musical style. It would definitely be a bit slower track but doable. I've always preferred Gen 2, myself. Then again, I've never listened to any of the music past Gen 4.It's a great idea, and I think the dividing by region idea is a good one. You could do it a la DarkeSword's FF5 album idea - make each region an installment of the whole, with a track for each gym, and maybe a ninth track combining the Elite Four/champion themes. I got the feeling that would have happen anyway. Especially, with the inclusion of vocals. Now that the subject of vocals has been brought up, has there ever been an entire vocal OCR album before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrothaDom Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 I feel like the concept has been tossed around. There's been talk of incorporating more hip-hop, and that typically calls for a large set of vocals. But as far as this idea, I think it's a really interesting one. Would the start be the first 8 leaders, and first Elite Four? Or is there some other theme cooking up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangedragan Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Did someone say vocalists? Baritone here that's all for working on this album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconProcurement Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 I feel like the concept has been tossed around. There's been talk of incorporating more hip-hop, and that typically calls for a large set of vocals.But as far as this idea, I think it's a really interesting one. Would the start be the first 8 leaders, and first Elite Four? Or is there some other theme cooking up? There is no set genre, it's more or less what you feel the best genre to represent that character. If it's hip-hop, go for it! Again, no set genre. Regarding which Gen to start with. I think having everything open for selection and which ever one gets the most representation will end up getting focused on. For instance, if out of 10 people, 4 of those chose a Gen 1 Gym leaders then Gen 1 it is. The more I think about it, it would be better to break up the Gym Leaders into regions than per Gen mostly because of gen 2 giving you the option to explore Kanto after you beat the Elite Four and replacing two of the Gym Leaders, namely Blue and Janine. That being said, since Blue is the champion of gen 1, that would mean he would get two songs if champion themes are added. Iris would also end up with two as well since she is a gym leader in Black and White then becomes champion in Black and White 2. Regarding the Elite Four, I would make that optional considering that 4 vocals are going to be needed and most likely be more involved than the Gym leaders. Breaking up into Regions would definitely be better. Any objections or additional thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkeSword Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Do it by regions. Makes the most sense. Consider doing an open call for people who are just vocalists and pair them up with musicians and remixers from the community. There are a lot of talented folks outside of OCR who sing and rap but don't necessarily have production/arrangement chops who'd love to be in on something like this. Would also recommend getting a dedicated production consultant to make sure vocal mixing is tight across the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timaeus222 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Would also recommend getting a dedicated production consultant to make sure vocal mixing is tight across the board. I'd be up for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconProcurement Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 I'd be up for that. Sounds like a sound plan. :3 I cobbled up a spreadsheet of the rosters of the Gym Leaders of Kanto with sources I think would fit them since many towns share the same track. Noticed Johto has the same deal so I'll work on this when I get the chance on Sunday. If anyone has any counter-arguments for my picks or offer suggestions, I'm all ears. I just went by what I think fits best for each Gym Leader. Gym Leader Roster sheet I also add the Elite Four if someone really wants to pick them. For now the focus will be with whatever region everyone wants to go with. Whether its Kanto or Kalos, it doesn't matter. Now I have to think of a clever sounding name for the album. It'll come me eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrothaDom Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I wasn't able to access the file...you may need to change the permissions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconProcurement Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 (edited) I wasn't able to access the file...you may need to change the permissions. Sorry about that. Try it now. So I finished the Roster Sheet. Took quite awhile to complete. Things I noticed while making this, I thought Kanto was the only one with towns/cities that shared the same theme. Gen 5 was the first to have unique themes for every town/citiy. The city where Crasher Wake's gym is at shares the same theme as Solaceon Town. (The only city that I'm aware that did that in Gen 4.) Clair has her own theme song. Wallace and Steven share the same theme songs for some odd reason. Cynthia's theme is a beautiful piano piece that makes me picture her with a phantom of the opera mask playing on a giant organ. Also, the Unova Region has the most Gym Leaders with 12. Kalos Region was the simplest list to make. Let me know if any of the links is messed up in the spreadsheet. Edited January 20, 2014 by BaconProcurement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconProcurement Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 I think I've come up with the perfect name for this project: Gym Leader Revengence followed by (region) Version Also need to find the right place and time to further hammer out details timaeus222 and anyone else that wants to help. Ocr's chat, PM's, are fine by me. Since I work overnight, the times I can really be reached at are early morning to 1pm-ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrothaDom Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I'm willing to lend any help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconProcurement Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 After listening to the blessing of all you guys (especially Overclocked Assembled in the recent Talkback) regarding this idea, I'm going to go ahead and start taking names for which gym leader you want. Here is the Roster Sheet If anyone has noticed, I added Red as the champion of the Kanto Region. His source themes is the Last battle theme in Gold/Silver and Pallet Town. Because you know, he is from Pallet Town and that is in Kanto. I'll make a full update on further details on the first page when I get out of work tomorrow morning. For right now, I'm want to focus on the Kanto Region. This doesn't mean that you can't pick other regions, it's just that consider Kanto Gym Leaders before you jump to the other regions. You can still pick other regions if you want. Just know it won't be focused on yet. Since I'm a Magikarp out of water regarding making an album like this, any advice is welcome. Also, for now I'm calling this the Gym Leader Tribute: (insert region) Version, depending on which region the Gym Leaders are from. (Gym Leader Revengence is a bit silly.) Having it called Volume 1, 2, etc. is boring. Plus, I really don't want to answer those that say, "But Johto should be #2!" And yes, I'm going through withDarkeSword's idea and making this a fully vocal album. Bare that in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconProcurement Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 First page is updated! Check it for spelling errors, err, just check it! "Oh my Arceus! What in Giratina am I doing?" - some guy on Victory Road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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