SSB Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 NEWEST VERSION: http://files.zenixstudios.com/2cdrebeljazzalt.mp3 10-7 VERSION: http://files.zenixstudios.com/377rebeljazz.mp3 http://zenixstudios.com/files/0b7rebeljazz.mp3 Link to original: http://files.zenixstudios.com/d40rebelarmy.mp3 Bringing out the jazz for this one ;DShould mention that I eventually plan on putting some solos in that seemingly empty spot. C&C welcome. UPDATE: New version includes revamped intro. To summarize the changes to the intro, I changed the trumpet to a flugelhorn and changed the way the notes were attacked as well as removing the bass from the chords to make the attacks sound smoother. Threw in a drum beat and slowed it down too. Also added a makeshift ending, this is mainly what I want suggestions on. Lastly, did some panning and mastering work to make it sound a little better. Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minstrel Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I have not heard the original, so I can't comment on how interpretive your work is. It's very well arranged though and interesting troughout the whole song. Good work with dynamics, I like the parts of the song kept pretty sparse in instrumentation. Too bad all instruments suffer from the typical general midi sound. Can't blame your skills for that though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB Posted August 18, 2006 Author Share Posted August 18, 2006 The beginning segment is almost a direct transcribing of the original melody, so that should give you some idea. Thanks, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 good ol' bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MacG Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 The original song was good, and this sounds like it will be a good remix. I'm not good when it comes to giving feedback, so all I can say is, "Good luck!, You'lllllll need it!" (Can anyone guess what game that was from?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB Posted September 4, 2006 Author Share Posted September 4, 2006 more feedback would be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 last try =\ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamoh Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 This just sounds like midi (note: horrible) of a really fantastic arrangement. Ultimately you may want to just break down, find a jazz band, and write out the parts like a normal composer. Some of the parts are pretty ambitious for individual instruments - and the ending is abrupt - but I like it a lot as a piece of music, not as a remix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamuraiFoochs #Reload Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Yeah. Not bad in theory, in fact potentially awesome, but reeks of MIDI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share Posted September 16, 2006 Jazz is definitely difficult to produce realistically so I'm not sure what to do, really, unless I find a band that can play it. I think the only part that might be tricky for a real band is the first trumpet part that goes pretty high, and I had this in mind considering I play the trumpet. I just wanted to add that almost screechy feel to it. So because of that it might be out of the range of what, say, my high school band can do. I can't really afford to pay anyone else, though. These are the Garritan Jazz sounds too so I don't think I'll get a lot better than this =\ Thanks for the feedback, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koelsch1 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 awsome arrangment. Too bad the sound quality is holding it back. Its very well written. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamoh Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Jazz is definitely difficult to produce realistically so I'm not sure what to do, really, unless I find a band that can play it.I think the only part that might be tricky for a real band is the first trumpet part that goes pretty high, and I had this in mind considering I play the trumpet. I just wanted to add that almost screechy feel to it. So because of that it might be out of the range of what, say, my high school band can do. I can't really afford to pay anyone else, though. These are the Garritan Jazz sounds too so I don't think I'll get a lot better than this =\ Thanks for the feedback, though. Well 1st trumpet CAN be fudged - either let the player stay low or change the arrangement a bit. But yeah, this is a really good composition that would benefit greatly from live treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB Posted September 19, 2006 Author Share Posted September 19, 2006 Ok, thanks. As soon as I get my computer in working order again I'll work on fusing in some more trumpet parts and work on toning down the range a little and see if I can't make it playable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB Posted October 5, 2006 Author Share Posted October 5, 2006 another bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
about:blank Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 I've always liked this song, and I think you definitely do it justice. You have a very interpretive take on the theme. I don't really the samples themselves are that bad, but they could potentially hold this from getting submitted. I would go into detail into what I liked about this, but to be honest, I pretty much liked everything. I noticed that the song stops abruptly, so I'm assuming you aren't done arranging everything yet. My only advice to you would be to definitely keep at this, and to try to maybe find some live performers once you've finished arranging everything. I look forward to hearing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB Posted October 6, 2006 Author Share Posted October 6, 2006 You're right about the ending. I plan to completely rework the intro (to make it jazzy) and add an actual ending as well as expanding on the middle segments, maybe adding more phrases. I've also emailed a local jazz group I know of, so if they agree to do it for me it may come to life after all. Thanks all for the positive feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghetto Lee Lewis Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Haven't listened to the WIP yet, but I'm very interested in this song. I played through that miserable excuse for game (it's FF2J for Famicom, that's the Japanese NES thingy). I recognized the title; it's definitely one of the best songs from the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcom Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 You're right about the ending. I plan to completely rework the intro (to make it jazzy) and add an actual ending as well as expanding on the middle segments, maybe adding more phrases. I've also emailed a local jazz group I know of, so if they agree to do it for me it may come to life after all.Thanks all for the positive feedback. I prefer the intro the way it is, its a nice shift. End is too abrupt though, so definitely work on that. Will be a great arrangement if you find the right samples or a real band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 Well even if I do keep the intro as it is, I still want to work on phrasing, improving the background with more motion, and whatnot. An ending shouldn't be too hard either. Hopefully i'll have another WIP up soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB Posted October 7, 2006 Author Share Posted October 7, 2006 and there's your new WIP ;D http://files.zenixstudios.com/377rebeljazz.mp3 see first post for summary of changes. MAIN THINGS I WANT CRITICISM: The ending. I don't like the way it's done now, so I want ideas. Also the changed intro, keep the drums? Lose them? I don't know, I'd like some feedback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake5017 Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 This is my personal favorite FF game and I think this sounds awesome. Other people are right when they say the sound quality is holding it back but I think it sounds good the way it is, sorda like a campy casino theme. I really enjoy it a lot. Keep plugging (i hope you do the town theme ) I look forward to the revision as soon as you get more feedback that isn't praising your awesomeness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB Posted October 8, 2006 Author Share Posted October 8, 2006 Town theme is another one of my favorites I just might do it next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkrocks Posted October 12, 2006 Share Posted October 12, 2006 Personaly I don't like Jazz, but I still enjoyed this mix. The main problem I found was that the trumpet/sax (or whatever it is), thats playing the harmony type thing, was to high pitched. I found the piano work great, I dont think you have much - if any - work to do on it. However, I didnt hear the drums doing all that much, mabye it's just cuz there soft. I'm not sure. Curently I'm actually playing this game, so the tune's fresh in my head. I think you do it justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Bison Posted October 13, 2006 Share Posted October 13, 2006 I think the low brass is a little powerchordy. I can hear that you are using correct voice leading and stuff but I think if anything, those trombone patches are gonna do this track in. They sound great when used in shorter sections but the held notes sound pretty crazy. Could you find a patch with a little less volume on the held notes? That might help. Perhaps open your voicings a little, this might give a more natural sound to the track. E-Bison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSB Posted October 14, 2006 Author Share Posted October 14, 2006 Ok then. What I'm thinking I might do is orchestrate the trombone parts during the melody so it's less power chordy as you describe and add a bass trombone part to double with the bari. Maybe add a third trumpet too and make one trumpet double with the saxes at parts.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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